A character you really dislike

[FOL-FAN-ITA]

Hi, guys and Happy New Year . Do you have a character that you really dislike? You can pick someone of the main cast, a recurring character or even someone that appeared in only one episode. I can say Kelly or Miko, since they're my least favorite.

[Christopher]

Even though Kelly was really rotten in her introduction to the show, I still can tolerate her more than Molly. I just can't stand Molly. She has the worst facial expressions too. I think it's Emily Dickinson, there's a scene where Natalie says something about the pizza Tootie brings in. Molly has this arrogant expression as Natalie is speaking and it comes off she's wanting Natalie to shut up. Molly in real life really needed that stick removed from her ass because she was not better than the other girls in acting. I am so happy she only lasted 15 episodes. She was the worst mistake this show had.

[FOL-FAN-ITA]

Originally Posted by Christopher

Even though Kelly was really rotten in her introduction to the show, I still can tolerate her more than Molly. I just can't stand Molly. She has the worst facial expressions too. I think it's Emily Dickinson, there's a scene where Natalie says something about the pizza Tootie brings in. Molly has this arrogant expression as Natalie is speaking and it comes off she's wanting Natalie to shut up. Molly in real life really needed that stick removed from her ass because she was not better than the other girls in acting. I am so happy she only lasted 15 episodes. She was the worst mistake this show had.

I'm not a huge fan of Molly, in fact I would have picked her for the third position but Kelly was mean and rude towards Mrs. Garrett, she stole her food and her money. And both Kelly and Miko had that strange obsession for Jo

[80s Dude]

Of the main characters, the one I disliked the most was Jo. Couldn't relate to her at all and thought they excused too much of her criminal behavior early on. She reminded me too much of Chauchi from Happy Days who I absolutely despised.

As for a minor character, I would go with Rick. It was an odd relationship he had with Jo. The sudden marriage, her returning to live with the girls after their honeymoon. He seemed to be in the closet and Jo was his beard. That cross dressing scene certainly didn't change my mind on that.

[80s Dude]

Originally Posted by Christopher

Even though Kelly was really rotten in her introduction to the show, I still can tolerate her more than Molly. I just can't stand Molly. She has the worst facial expressions too. I think it's Emily Dickinson, there's a scene where Natalie says something about the pizza Tootie brings in. Molly has this arrogant expression as Natalie is speaking and it comes off she's wanting Natalie to shut up. Molly in real life really needed that stick removed from her ass because she was not better than the other girls in acting. I am so happy she only lasted 15 episodes. She was the worst mistake this show had.

Molly mentioned she had some kind of personality clash with Mindy so that look may have been real. She didn't say whether this occurred during the first season or sometime between the first or second after the Great Purge. Her lines with Natalie was cut out for the New Girl, Part 2. They apparently buried the hatchet when Mindy appeared on The Secret Life of an American teenager.

[80s Dude]

Originally Posted by FOL-FAN-ITA

I'm not a huge fan of Molly, in fact I would have picked her for the third position but Kelly was mean and rude towards Mrs. Garrett, she stole her food and her money. And both Kelly and Miko had that strange obsession for Jo

Miko probably was the first lesbian cast member on the show. She had a serious crush on JO.

[RetroGuy2000]

Pippa. Also not a fan of Kevin.

[FOL-FAN-ITA]

Originally Posted by 80s Dude

Of the main characters, the one I disliked the most was Jo. Couldn't relate to her at all and thought they excused too much of her criminal behavior early on. She reminded me too much of Chauchi from Happy Days who I absolutely despised.

As for a minor character, I would go with Rick. It was an odd relationship he had with Jo. The sudden marriage, her returning to live with the girls after their honeymoon. He seemed to be in the closet and Jo was his beard. That cross dressing scene certainly didn't change my mind on that.

I didn't know you disliked Jo. Yeah, she was very "tough" during her first year. It took her one/two seasons to calm down, in fact I like her most during the later seasons. I agree about Rick, that episode was very similar to the plot of Teenage Marriage

[FOL-FAN-ITA]

Originally Posted by 80s Dude

Molly mentioned she had some kind of personality clash with Mindy so that look may have been real. She didn't say whether this occurred during the first season or sometime between the first or second after the Great Purge. Her lines with Natalie was cut out for the New Girl, Part 2. They apparently buried the hatchet when Mindy appeared on The Secret Life of an American teenager.

Interesting. Maybe Molly had some kind of resentment towards Mindy, something like "You're not an actress but they kept you on the show and they fired me!"

[FOL-FAN-ITA]

Originally Posted by RetroGuy2000

Pippa. Also not a fan of Kevin.

You prefer Kelly over Pippa??

[TV Guy]

Most of you already know my dislike of Pimppa, but I have to say that Kevin is even worse. At least Pimppa had a tie to Eastland. Kevin is just some random, vacant-eyed cutie played by Shirley Jones’ least-talented son (at least when it comes to acting). He had no business living with the girls.

[80s Dude]

Originally Posted by FOL-FAN-ITA

Interesting. Maybe Molly had some kind of resentment towards Mindy, something like "You're not an actress but they kept you on the show and they fired me!"

This article and accompanied video shows Molly talking briefly about her relationship with Mindy Cohn.
https://toofab.com/2015/10/23/molly-...facts-of-life/

[80s Dude]

Originally Posted by FOL-FAN-ITA

I didn't know you disliked Jo. Yeah, she was very "tough" during her first year. It took her one/two seasons to calm down, in fact I like her most during the later seasons. I agree about Rick, that episode was very similar to the plot of Teenage Marriage

Never connected with Jo.

[RetroGuy2000]

Originally Posted by FOL-FAN-ITA

You prefer Kelly over Pippa??

Slightly, I think.

Like, the writers absolutely ruined the character of Kelly, and they did so very quickly (just by making her completely unlikable and a weird Jo stalker), but there was no reason a "fifth girl" couldn't have worked, with the proper writing and planning.

By the time Pimppa came along, the show had lost its charm. Cast members were ready, at that point, to move on... some already had. The very Heart of the Show (Mrs. G.) had moved on. Pippa was now emblematic of everything that was wrong with the show: they were just throwing out fads to try to stay relevant: Spencer's Gifts! Shoulder Pads! Big Hair! Bull from Night Court! Pastels! Guest stars! Musical Guest Stars! Urchins! And finally: Australia!

But none of these desperate attempts at staying relevant could save the show, and weirdly, the writers made the main characters despise and mistreat a character (Pippa) they had taken in, a character for whom they supposedly cared. The chemistry between many characters was weird. Relationships seemed strained. But the relationship between the Core Four and Pippa was unusually weird.

Pippa herself was mostly brought in to enter Stage Left, say some mildly humorous Aussie slang, and then exit Stage Right. But imagine if the character had been from Central Africa. The same material, with changed nationalities, could never have aired today, because laughing at the Crazy Foreigner with the Funny Accent worked okay in the 1980s, but hasn't dated well. If the material isn't timeless, what is it doing in syndication?

Also, the set-up for Pippa, with her replacing her friend Franny, was so messed up and complicated. I will never even understand why the writers made Pippa's introduction so complex. There didn't even need to be a Franny, especially since no-one currently in the house ever even spoke to Franny! Just have Pippa come to the US, forging her father's permission to go to Eastland. Cut out the Franny impersonation altogether, and leave viewers less confused as to who this girl actually is!

Maybe, with some adjustments, the Pippa/Tootie brooch episode could have worked. But usually, Pippa was just an outcast, with no real connection to these older girls, and only a connection to Andy. We as viewers begin to dislike the Core Four at how they treat this girl. Yet there's never any resolution.

In an abbreviation: WTF?! It just feels like the writers didn't know what they were doing.

[RetroGuy2000]

Originally Posted by TV Guy

Most of you already know my dislike of Pimppa, but I have to say that Kevin is even worse. At least Pimppa had a tie to Eastland. Kevin is just some random, vacant-eyed cutie played by Shirley Jones’ least-talented son (at least when it comes to acting). He had no business living with the girls.

Yes.

And he's even a weirder stalker than Kelly. I know it was the 1980s, but my god! Did he really need to sniff their underwear?