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Tankeryanker · 12-19-2020, 01:05 PM

Ask and you shall receive, knock and the door shall open.

I think June was nifty because she truly seemed to want to be serving the men of the household. I did not get the feeling that she regretted her choice.

I have said it before that she already had the freedom and accomplishment of college behind her and probably majored in home ec and faced her choice as a loving scientist who took pride in her career.

With undergrad behind her, she could get an advanced degree and strike out on her own if that ever became necessary. That gave her even more confidence in her choice. She would never be stuck in the typing pool if her marriage ever went south. She could afford to be a mom.

I hate to hear parents "make sacrifices". Nobody told you to have kids if you were not ready. So June's attitude is a pretty nifty thing.

stevea · 12-19-2020, 01:18 PM

Yes she truly loved her role. In Un-Togetherness Ward was ticking off the things he would enjoy on vacation; then she said something like, while I do the cooking and cleaning. A few sentences later she mentioned she was joking and she loved the vacations too.

She was sometimes hesitant to deal with conflicts, as with her hesitation to apologize to Beaver on June's Birthday. But with some urging by Wally she talked to him, and did a very good job. We all live and learn.

She was not without faults as we've discussed before, but no one is.

PracTz · 12-19-2020, 01:27 PM

And it seems that since Ward and June had had a long on and off again courtship, June had had a great deal of time to consider whether to marry him or even to marry at all (and had had the example of her Aunt Martha as an independent woman to draw from) but she decided that her calling was to be the best wife and mother possible- even if she didn't always like or understand her offspring's antics!

OH Nuts! · 12-19-2020, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Tankeryanker

Ask and you shall receive, knock and the door shall open.

I think June was nifty because she truly seemed to want to be serving the men of the household. I did not get the feeling that she regretted her choice.

I have said it before that she already had the freedom and accomplishment of college behind her and probably majored in home ec and faced her choice as a loving scientist who took pride in her career.

With undergrad behind her, she could get an advanced degree and strike out on her own if that ever became necessary. That gave her even more confidence in her choice. She would never be stuck in the typing pool if her marriage ever went south. She could afford to be a mom.

I hate to hear parents "make sacrifices". Nobody told you to have kids if you were not ready. So June's attitude is a pretty nifty thing.

Thanks for the thread! Yes, she was a very good mom for the most part, and clearly devoted to her family. Ward was the better parent IMO. He seemed wiser in that he occasionally allowed the boys to make their own mistakes-and learn from them like in “Beaver’s Football Award”-the way he snuck Beaver’s suit in the car trunk was epic, wise and loving = all rolled into one.

Tankeryanker · 12-19-2020, 01:54 PM

^^^
Maybe Ward was better because they were parenting boys. If they were parenting girls, it would be Ward asking why girls do this or that.

OH Nuts! · 12-19-2020, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Tankeryanker

^^^
Maybe Ward was better because they were parenting boys. If they were gparenting girls, it would be Ward asking why girls do this or that.

A good point - and very possible.

stevea · 12-19-2020, 04:37 PM

On the football award episode here's a reminder, that Ward was kind of dragged kicking and screaming to the bring-the-jacket-and-tie plan.

He originally told Beaver (when Beaver wouldn't dress up) all right, we just won't go, and kind of stormed out of the room. He then went and told June, angrily, that they weren't going.

Then June put her foot down and told him this was the biggest event in Beaver's life so far. Then he angrily told her he'd go back up there, and tell Beaver they would go.

On the trip up the stairs, maybe, he thought of the plan to bring the jacket and tie w/o Beaver's knowledge. It was a good plan, but without June's intervention, it wouldn't have happened, and they wouldn't have gone at all.

CosmicCharlie · 12-20-2020, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Tankeryanker

Ask and you shall receive, knock and the door shall open.

I think June was nifty because she truly seemed to want to be serving the men of the household. I did not get the feeling that she regretted her choice.

I have said it before that she already had the freedom and accomplishment of college behind her and probably majored in home ec and faced her choice as a loving scientist who took pride in her career.

With undergrad behind her, she could get an advanced degree and strike out on her own if that ever became necessary. That gave her even more confidence in her choice. She would never be stuck in the typing pool if her marriage ever went south. She could afford to be a mom.

I hate to hear parents "make sacrifices". Nobody told you to have kids if you were not ready. So June's attitude is a pretty nifty thing.

Good Points

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With undergrad behind her, she could get an advanced degree and strike out on her own if that ever became necessary.

And she would have made a good spy for the CIA ...

12-19-2020, 01:05 PM	#1
Tankeryanker Do you like my monkey picture? Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 22, 2014 Posts: 3,051	June was a pretty nifty mother Ask and you shall receive, knock and the door shall open. I think June was nifty because she truly seemed to want to be serving the men of the household. I did not get the feeling that she regretted her choice. I have said it before that she already had the freedom and accomplishment of college behind her and probably majored in home ec and faced her choice as a loving scientist who took pride in her career. With undergrad behind her, she could get an advanced degree and strike out on her own if that ever became necessary. That gave her even more confidence in her choice. She would never be stuck in the typing pool if her marriage ever went south. She could afford to be a mom. I hate to hear parents "make sacrifices". Nobody told you to have kids if you were not ready. So June's attitude is a pretty nifty thing.

12-19-2020, 01:18 PM	#2
stevea 22 Years On Sitcoms Moderator Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 13, 2003 Location: Indy Posts: 45,066	Yes she truly loved her role. In Un-Togetherness Ward was ticking off the things he would enjoy on vacation; then she said something like, while I do the cooking and cleaning. A few sentences later she mentioned she was joking and she loved the vacations too. She was sometimes hesitant to deal with conflicts, as with her hesitation to apologize to Beaver on June's Birthday. But with some urging by Wally she talked to him, and did a very good job. We all live and learn. She was not without faults as we've discussed before, but no one is.

12-19-2020, 01:27 PM	#3
PracTz Member Senior Member Join Date: Jul 14, 2002 Location: United States of America [Happily Living in the 20th Century] Posts: 2,711	And it seems that since Ward and June had had a long on and off again courtship, June had had a great deal of time to consider whether to marry him or even to marry at all (and had had the example of her Aunt Martha as an independent woman to draw from) but she decided that her calling was to be the best wife and mother possible- even if she didn't always like or understand her offspring's antics!

12-19-2020, 01:54 PM	#5
Tankeryanker Do you like my monkey picture? Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 22, 2014 Posts: 3,051	^^^ Maybe Ward was better because they were parenting boys. If they were parenting girls, it would be Ward asking why girls do this or that.

12-19-2020, 04:37 PM	#7
stevea 22 Years On Sitcoms Moderator Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 13, 2003 Location: Indy Posts: 45,066	On the football award episode here's a reminder, that Ward was kind of dragged kicking and screaming to the bring-the-jacket-and-tie plan. He originally told Beaver (when Beaver wouldn't dress up) all right, we just won't go, and kind of stormed out of the room. He then went and told June, angrily, that they weren't going. Then June put her foot down and told him this was the biggest event in Beaver's life so far. Then he angrily told her he'd go back up there, and tell Beaver they would go. On the trip up the stairs, maybe, he thought of the plan to bring the jacket and tie w/o Beaver's knowledge. It was a good plan, but without June's intervention, it wouldn't have happened, and they wouldn't have gone at all.