"Christmas Day at the Bunkers'"

[cfr1970]

Just watched this 2nd season episode. It's Christmas Day at the Bunker house and the milkman comes over to actually ask for his holiday tip!! ON Christmas DAY!! Did people do this back then?! This man left his home and family on Christmas Day to go all the way to the Bunker house to interrupt their holiday and ask for his freaking tip.

I love how Archie forced him to tell him why he was there and making him feel all embarrassed about it. The arrogance of that milkman to visit the home right on Christmas to ask for his the tip like he was entitled to it. I hope Archie called his boss and stopped his milk delivery after that.

But what gall!

Another thing stood out for me with this one---in the beginning of the episode, Mike rants how Christmas has become too commercial by big corporations and how it's lost it's meaning and has become materialistic. (BTW he's an Atheist anyway, what does he want it to be about? It can't be God or Jesus!)

In any case, just a little while later...the hypocrite berates Archie by accusing him of not using his Christmas Bonus from work to buy nice presents for everyone! He was just talking how materialistic the holiday was to him, and here he is 5 minutes later putting Archie down for not spending his bonus on the family's gifts!! So hypocritical!!

I wish Archie had thrown his earlier speech right back in his Meathead face.

[GrtGzu]

I can remember my parents including a holiday tip with the current payment due to the paperboy, and the mailman back in the day because they provided excellent service....rarely did anybody show up on the holiday to "collect"..

And to be fair, Archie never DID get his bonus, cuz he messed up an order...remember??Edith was the one who figured it out..

[cfr1970]

Originally Posted by GrtGzu

I can remember my parents including a holiday tip with the current payment due to the paperboy, and the mailman back in the day because they provided excellent service....rarely did anybody show up on the holiday to "collect".

Yeah, I really can't believe that was acceptable behavior even back then. As a paperboy in the early 80's I would never have had the gall to show up on Christmas Day at one of the houses to ask for a Christmas tip. If I didn't get one from the customer, I just let it be...but I guess in the early 70's milkmen thought they were entitled for extra holiday tips from customers.

I think Maude did this exact same scene also when the mailman came on Christmas Day asking for his tip. Maybe this was a 70's thing?

I was glad when Archie treated that milkman like crap though because he deserved it.

Originally Posted by GrtGzu

And to be fair, Archie never DID get his bonus, cuz he messed up an order...remember??Edith was the one who figured it out..[/COLOR][/B]

Yes, he didn't get it for a mistake I think most of us would've made. If my boss said "Ship it to London"...I doubt anyone would be like "Did you mean London, Ontario or London, England?"
Most of us would naturally assume England so his boss was the one in the wrong there for not clarifying.

But Mike was a hypocrite when he thought Archie got the bonus but didn't use it on their presents when 5 minutes earlier he was going on how Christmas is too materialistic.

[OH Nuts!]

Originally Posted by cfr1970

Just watched this 2nd season episode. It's Christmas Day at the Bunker house and the milkman comes over to actually ask for his holiday tip!! ON Christmas DAY!! Did people do this back then?! This man left his home and family on Christmas Day to go all the way to the Bunker house to interrupt their holiday and ask for his freaking tip.

I love how Archie forced him to tell him why he was there and making him feel all embarrassed about it. The arrogance of that milkman to visit the home right on Christmas to ask for his the tip like he was entitled to it. I hope Archie called his boss and stopped his milk delivery after that.

But what gall!

Another thing stood out for me with this one---in the beginning of the episode, Mike rants how Christmas has become too commercial by big corporations and how it's lost it's meaning and has become materialistic. (BTW he's an Atheist anyway, what does he want it to be about? It can't be God or Jesus!)

In any case, just a little while later...the hypocrite berates Archie by accusing him of not using his Christmas Bonus from work to buy nice presents for everyone! He was just talking how materialistic the holiday was to him, and here he is 5 minutes later putting Archie down for not spending his bonus on the family's gifts!! So hypocritical!!

I wish Archie had thrown his earlier speech right back in his Meathead face.

I agree it was very NERVY to come by on Xmas Day. It’s even nervy to ask about a tip at all. But it’s also VERY TACKY to suddenly stop giving giving someone a tip. Archie should have given him a smaller tip than normal, and apologized saying that times were hard, and the smaller amount was nothing personal.