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ctgrumpybear · 07-01-2020, 09:36 AM

How many times have cases been shown on Unsolved mysteries where they show an suspect in an murder and are looking for them but it’s turned out they would victims too

Two that came to mind are

Mike Riemer

I can’t remember the names but one case where police for an man who believe killed his wife and run off with his son. Now police say they believe him and his son would killed by the same person who killed his wife

bip05 · 07-01-2020, 12:02 PM

Bank President Dan Short of Noel, MO

WishfulDreamer · 07-01-2020, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ctgrumpybear

How many times have cases been shown on Unsolved mysteries where they show an suspect in an murder and are looking for them but it’s turned out they would victims too

Two that came to mind are

Mike Riemer

I can’t remember the names but one case where police for an man who believe killed his wife and run off with his son. Now police say they believe him and his son would killed by the same person who killed his wife

Definitely my choice, too, for Mike Riemer. I was sure he was guilty for years until they found his remains.

The second case you are thinking of is this one: https://unsolvedmysteries.fandom.com...ub_Wackerhagen

TheCars1986 · 07-01-2020, 12:31 PM

Tim McClure

1990 UM fan · 07-01-2020, 04:56 PM

Janice Owen. The authorities initially thought that she killed her 8-year-old daughter, Alyssa, until Janice herself was found murdered.

xxxxmattxxxx69 · 07-01-2020, 06:46 PM

John Feiga(sp?) murdered Erica Richardson. Then he himself was murdered. Didn't one of the brothers that murdered Dan Short get murdered in prison?

ctgrumpybear · 07-01-2020, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by xxxxmattxxxx69

John Feiga(sp?) murdered Erica Richardson. Then he himself was murdered. Didn't one of the brothers that murdered Dan Short get murdered in prison?

One of killer die in prison from unknown reason and the other is on federal death row for killing his cellmate

bip05 · 07-01-2020, 09:29 PM

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Tim McClure

well he certainly started to feel like one

mozartpc27 · 07-06-2020, 03:25 PM

Tim McClure is still a little up in the air for me.

Dub Wackerhagen, though...

freakbook · 07-06-2020, 03:29 PM

Charles Holden

Lieutenant Bookman · 07-13-2020, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by TheCars1986

Tim McClure

Ha. When I saw the thread title that quote immediately came to mind. Glad someone said it

TheCars1986 · 07-13-2020, 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by freakbook

Charles Holden

Good one. I think this case is the prime example of Occam's razor not being infallible.

Corkys-Place · 08-01-2020, 02:06 AM

How about Dale Kerstetter?

Janel "Jaycee" Miller · 08-13-2020, 08:41 PM

How about Kristin Tomlin and/or Suzanne Russell?

marahnna · 08-21-2020, 06:54 PM

Most of my big ones have already been mentioned.

1. Dub Wackerhagen. I was always about 90% convinced, as were most people, I think, that he was guilty of killing Latricia and going on the run with Chance or perhaps killing him too in a rage. The recent developments have LE believing it was someone with an axe to grind against Trish - an ex, I think? I'm pretty sure they have a suspect in mind but they just don't have enough evidence to charge the person.

2. Charles Holden. I really felt for that guy. As unbelievable as the circumstances are, I never bought that he killed his mother. Poor guy got railroaded by the cops since he was the most convenient suspect. I'm glad they finally caught the actual killer.

3. Dale Kerstetter. I was on the fence until I listened to the "The Trail Went Cold" episode on his case. What Robin Warder says makes complete sense. The money Dale would have gotten for his role in the robbery was not a terribly large amount, certainly not enough for him to have lived on all these years. Further, the statute of limitations on the theft has run out, so if he did indeed run off, he'd be free to come out of hiding without fear of prosecution, but that hasn't happened.

4. The "Sammy Wheeler Trio," so to speak. This was probably the most soap opera-like segment I've ever seen on this show. Sammy's twin brother Danny, his girlfriend Pat Snead, and Pat's ex-husband Bob Bean were all at one time considered suspects, and each spent time in the segment accusing the others. All of them seemingly had good reasons to want to kill Sammy, but in the end, it turned out to be a random act of violence. That one was a wild ride.

07-01-2020, 09:36 AM	#1
ctgrumpybear Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jan 09, 2010 Posts: 117	Times where the suspect turned out to be a victim How many times have cases been shown on Unsolved mysteries where they show an suspect in an murder and are looking for them but it’s turned out they would victims too Two that came to mind are Mike Riemer I can’t remember the names but one case where police for an man who believe killed his wife and run off with his son. Now police say they believe him and his son would killed by the same person who killed his wife

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TheCars1986 #VLSKMS Forum Fanatic Join Date: Nov 22, 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 8,606	Tim McClure

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xxxxmattxxxx69 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Feb 12, 2010 Location: MA Posts: 398	John Feiga(sp?) murdered Erica Richardson. Then he himself was murdered. Didn't one of the brothers that murdered Dan Short get murdered in prison?

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freakbook Member Senior Member Join Date: Jan 10, 2017 Posts: 2,256	Charles Holden

08-01-2020, 02:06 AM	#13
Corkys-Place Unsolved Mysteries Fan Forum Regular Join Date: Feb 23, 2010 Posts: 790	How about Dale Kerstetter?

08-13-2020, 08:41 PM	#14
Janel "Jaycee" Miller Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Aug 19, 2010 Location: South Jersey Posts: 408	How about Kristin Tomlin and/or Suzanne Russell?

08-21-2020, 06:54 PM	#15
marahnna Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Feb 04, 2007 Location: Los Angeles, CA, USA Posts: 54	Most of my big ones have already been mentioned. 1. Dub Wackerhagen. I was always about 90% convinced, as were most people, I think, that he was guilty of killing Latricia and going on the run with Chance or perhaps killing him too in a rage. The recent developments have LE believing it was someone with an axe to grind against Trish - an ex, I think? I'm pretty sure they have a suspect in mind but they just don't have enough evidence to charge the person. 2. Charles Holden. I really felt for that guy. As unbelievable as the circumstances are, I never bought that he killed his mother. Poor guy got railroaded by the cops since he was the most convenient suspect. I'm glad they finally caught the actual killer. 3. Dale Kerstetter. I was on the fence until I listened to the "The Trail Went Cold" episode on his case. What Robin Warder says makes complete sense. The money Dale would have gotten for his role in the robbery was not a terribly large amount, certainly not enough for him to have lived on all these years. Further, the statute of limitations on the theft has run out, so if he did indeed run off, he'd be free to come out of hiding without fear of prosecution, but that hasn't happened. 4. The "Sammy Wheeler Trio," so to speak. This was probably the most soap opera-like segment I've ever seen on this show. Sammy's twin brother Danny, his girlfriend Pat Snead, and Pat's ex-husband Bob Bean were all at one time considered suspects, and each spent time in the segment accusing the others. All of them seemingly had good reasons to want to kill Sammy, but in the end, it turned out to be a random act of violence. That one was a wild ride.