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Old 06-01-2020, 08:32 PM   #1
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Default First episode with Belle and I was turned off instantly

Why the hell did she have such a big role? The whole episode was all about her which was odd for a replacement. They was really trying to sell her to the fans lol


BTW: They replaced Flo the very next episode?? Damm would have thought they would have waited until the next season.
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Would have been too much work for Alice and Vera if they waited that long. Obviously, Marie wasn't going to cut it.
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Would have been too much work for Alice and Vera if they waited that long. Obviously, Marie wasn't going to cut it.
I see she didnt last long and was only on the show for 1 season. Not sure if that was her decision or not.
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Like Linda Lavin and Polly, Diane Ladd and Linda Lavin didn't get along. The common problem seemed to be Linda. Lol Diane came out and admitted it. Polly has been quieter about it. The show was never the same after Flo was gone. And her character was never mentioned again.
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Like Linda Lavin and Polly, Diane Ladd and Linda Lavin didn't get along. The common problem seemed to be Linda. Lol Diane came out and admitted it. Polly has been quieter about it. The show was never the same after Flo was gone. And her character was never mentioned again.
How was Jolene?
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Why the hell did she have such a big role? The whole episode was all about her which was odd for a replacement. They was really trying to sell her to the fans lol


BTW: They replaced Flo the very next episode?? Damm would have thought they would have waited until the next season.
It was a big coup for them to get Diane Ladd (she was Flo in the movie, and had been asked to reprise the role when the series started). So they gave her a big intro. They didn’t want to do six episodes with only two waitresses and then have interest in the series wane, which might have happened if they waited until the fall. The knew that the show’s future was at risk without Polly Holliday. Strike while the iron is hot.

I thought the character was terrible. Too much of a cartoon. They should have made Belle more like the movie Flo - cynical, world-weary, and salty, but with a good heart. I think that would have provided more of a contrast with her predecessor. But at this point, the show was produced by Lucille Ball’s old writers (Madelyn Davis and Bob Carroll) and they weren’t going to do anything remotely groundbreaking or risky. So we got cartoon characters, dumb plots, and plenty of Linda Lavin doing musical numbers.
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It was a big coup for them to get Diane Ladd (she was Flo in the movie, and had been asked to reprise the role when the series started). So they gave her a big intro. They didn’t want to do six episodes with only two waitresses and then have interest in the series wane, which might have happened if they waited until the fall. The knew that the show’s future was at risk without Polly Holliday. Strike while the iron is hot.

I thought the character was terrible. Too much of a cartoon. They should have made Belle more like the movie Flo - cynical, world-weary, and salty, but with a good heart. I think that would have provided more of a contrast with her predecessor. But at this point, the show was produced by Lucille Ball’s old writers (Madelyn Davis and Bob Carroll) and they weren’t going to do anything remotely groundbreaking or risky. So we got cartoon characters, dumb plots, and plenty of Linda Lavin doing musical numbers.

Plus it seemed like she was trying to be too much like Flo and it was a instant turn off. I havent seen too much of Jolene so I will see comes off when her episodes start in Late Mid June
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How was Jolene?
I thought Jolene was much better than Belle but definitely not better than Flo.

In my opinion, Mel was the best character, then Flo second, Jolene third, Henry fourth, Carrie Sharples fifth, Vera sixth, Tommy seventh, Alice eighth, Marie ninth, Earl Hicks tenth.
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I thought Jolene was much better than Belle but definitely not better than Flo.

In my opinion, Mel was the best character, then Flo second, Jolene third, Henry fourth, Carrie Sharples fifth, Vera sixth, Tommy seventh, Alice eighth, Marie ninth, Earl Hicks tenth.
Wonder what was the story behind the actor leaving after season 5
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Wonder what was the story behind the actor leaving after season 5
Who? You can't mean Jolene because she was there until the very end.
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Who? You can't mean Jolene because she was there until the very end.
No Belle. After being introduced in Season 4 she was no longer on the show after season 5
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No Belle. After being introduced in Season 4 she was no longer on the show after season 5
She didn't get along with Linda Lavin.
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She didn't get along with Linda Lavin.
Damm, her too LOL
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Damm, her too LOL
Yep, Linda Lavin was a prima donna who always had to have her way and she could never share the spotlight with anyone which still baffles me. I'll never understand why the show dumped Polly Holliday for her and gave in to all of Linda Lavin's other outrageous demands. Polly Holliday was awesome and Vic Tayback (Mel) was the actual star of the show in my opinion and most other's opinions as well.
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Yep, Linda Lavin was a prima donna who always had to have her way and she could never share the spotlight with anyone which still baffles me. I'll never understand why the show dumped Polly Holliday for her and gave in to all of Linda Lavin's other outrageous demands. Polly Holliday was awesome and Vic Tayback (Mel) was the actual star of the show in my opinion and most other's opinions as well.
The stand out characters were Vera and Mel
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