Betty Cash UFO, any thoughts?

[XCalibur]

To refresh everyone's memory, Betty Cash was the one who encountered a diamond shaped UFO in Texas near Houston in 1980. Along with her grandson and another family member.

She saw military helicopters afterwards. She basically then had radiation sickness problems the rest of her life.

I was just curious if any ex military people have any thoughts on what she might have encountered, because her description of the UFO is not really consistent with anything I've ever heard. I'm pretty sure it wasn't extraterrestrial in this case. Predictably the air force denied anything ever happened.

There was also a guy in Canada in another case who had similar issues after a UFO encounter in another Unsolved Mysteries case, I can't recall his name except that he spoke several languages trying to communicate with the craft, saw part of the inside, it took off and burned him pretty badly in the process. Although the craft he encountered did not match the description of the one Betty Cash saw I think it is worth mentioning cause both had significant radiation related illnesses following

Any ex military or experts familiar with radiation have any idea what they may have encountered? Not asking for classified info or particulars of course, just curious if anyone has any knowledge of the military testing craft that might cause radiation.

The reason I think someone might know is that I heard ex military putting out theories that the Kecksburg UFO may have been some sort of re-entry craft, can't recall the name of it though.

[TheCars1986]

I am highly skeptical of this story for one big reason: Betty Cash refused to make her medical records public. Granted, that is her right. But if you claim that a UFO potentially piloted by the American government gave you radiation poisoning, wouldn't you want to provide proof of that? The Texas Department of Health got involved immediately after Betty filed a complaint, and they were stonewalled by an investigator (who not so coincidentally was a big UFO believer) who was helping Betty Cash and Vickie Landrum with the case. He wouldn't turn over their medical records, and also claimed that neither woman could remember the specific location of the alleged sighting.

You can read more about it here.

[Killarney Rose]

I thought the sighting location was identified by the Road being burned where Betty told him the incident happened.

I always believed this happened and that it was an experimental top secret craft that something went wrong with it that night.

[TheCars1986]

I also forgot to mention that when they were interviewed by the Air Force, they were adamant that the helicopters they saw chasing the UFO had "United States Air Force" spelled out in large lettering on the side. They said they were twin rotor helicopters. But during the time of the alleged sighting, the Air Force did not have any twin rotor helicopters and their lettering on the helicopters they did have was small and no person would have been able to make them out from the ground (especially at night).

It's also interesting to me that the government actually went out of their way to investigate this case and/or pass the information along to someone who would. That's a big reason why the Air Force brought them in for questioning, so they could use their own words against them in their lawsuit.

[Huskerz85]

TheCars1986 beat me when he posted that link. In doing some googling, I came up with this piece (that takes a more benign/sympathetic view)

https://skeptoid.com/episodes/4652

[TheCars1986]

Originally Posted by Huskerz85

TheCars1986 beat me when he posted that link. In doing some googling, I came up with this piece (that takes a more benign/sympathetic view)

https://skeptoid.com/episodes/4652

I think that Betty Cash and Vickie Landrum believed that they saw a UFO that night, and kind of exaggerated their claims after the fact. The illnesses were looked at, and a radiologist said that they would have died if they had been exposed to radiation at the levels that would have caused their illnesses. Besides their accounts, there was never any real evidence presented which backed up their claims. And multiple government agencies investigated this incident.

[Labonte18]

I don't know what to make of this one. Much of it screams hoax.

However.. 3 people. 2 of whom are dead now and it continues.. One who was a child at the time.. I suppose it would be easier to trick a child, and I certainly don't think that Chase(?) is making it up.

[TheCars1986]

Originally Posted by Labonte18

I don't know what to make of this one. Much of it screams hoax.

However.. 3 people. 2 of whom are dead now and it continues.. One who was a child at the time.. I suppose it would be easier to trick a child, and I certainly don't think that Chase(?) is making it up.

In the released Air Force interview transcript, when the interviewer asks Vickie to describe the helicopters she saw in detail, she starts to describe it and her grandson interrupts and says, "it's like the one we saw land in Dayton" and she immediately shushes him. Found that pretty interesting too.

[PracTz]

OK, I'm not sure their account is accurate. However; these three DID get exposed to enough radiation to cause longterm (and in two cases terminal) health problems so does anyone have any hypotheses where (and to what) these three might have been exposed to instead of the alleged aircraft?

[Labonte18]

Originally Posted by PracTz

OK, I'm not sure their account is accurate. However; these three DID get exposed to enough radiation to cause longterm (and in two cases terminal) health problems so does anyone have any hypotheses where (and to what) these three might have been exposed to instead of the alleged aircraft?

There's no certainty that they were exposed to radiation.

We also don't know details of the 'health problems' that they suffered from. I mean, Vickie was 83 when she passed in 2007. Not exactly a short life. Betty Jean died at 69.. a little on the low end of average lifespan.

This whole thing smells.. I just can't figure out which side the stink is coming from.

[Todd Mueller]

Originally Posted by Labonte18

This whole thing smells.. I just can't figure out which side the stink is coming from.

HAHAHA! That is perfect! I agree that someone is hiding an awful lot, but at this point it's hard to say who.

Thanks for all of the info, Cars. I had no idea there was so much ambiguity and discrepancies with their story. I agree that people may not want their medical records released publicly, but in this case it smacks of trying to hide what the true nature of their medical issues was.

[TheCars1986]

Originally Posted by PracTz

OK, I'm not sure their account is accurate. However; these three DID get exposed to enough radiation to cause longterm (and in two cases terminal) health problems so does anyone have any hypotheses where (and to what) these three might have been exposed to instead of the alleged aircraft?

The doctors who examined them said that if they were exposed to enough radiation to cause vomiting, diarrhea, and hair loss that the levels would have been so high that they would have been dead in 3 days or less. They lived full lives, so there was never any proof that they were exposed to radiation.

[Todd Mueller]

Originally Posted by TheCars1986

The doctors who examined them said that if they were exposed to enough radiation to cause vomiting, diarrhea, and hair loss that the levels would have been so high that they would have been dead in 3 days or less. They lived full lives, so there was never any proof that they were exposed to radiation.

It almost sounds like chemical and/or heat exposure and not true radiation. I read a bunch of books about Chernobyl after watching the HBO series, and yeah, if the immediate symptoms were that severe they would have had to have a fatal dose of radiation. They could have had some kind of exposure to other hazardous materials which could cause those symptoms but wouldn't do the deep tissue damage like radiation.

So that begs the questions: 1) What did cause the medical issues? 2) Why would they make it up? Publicity? Money? Something else?

It seems like such an elaborate and detailed story so I wonder what their motive was (assuming it wasn't true). I'd also like to know what the true extent of the medical issues were.

[TheCars1986]

Originally Posted by Todd Mueller

It almost sounds like chemical and/or heat exposure and not true radiation.

One of the doctors that examined them said that they believed the chemical that could have been used to create those symptoms without any serious health issues was if someone were to drink a household cleaner. And Betty's hair falling out was the result of alopecia, which she had bouts with prior to this incident.

[ScaryFog]

Originally Posted by XCalibur

There was also a guy in Canada in another case who had similar issues after a UFO encounter in another Unsolved Mysteries case, I can't recall his name except that he spoke several languages trying to communicate with the craft, saw part of the inside, it took off and burned him pretty badly in the process. Although the craft he encountered did not match the description of the one Betty Cash saw I think it is worth mentioning cause both had significant radiation related illnesses following

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