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Will and Grace Fanatic · 06-17-2002, 04:13 PM

Name 10 shows you think were groundbreaking tv shows.

My list is:

Roseanne
All In The Family
Mary Tyler Moore
Ellen
All In The Family
Maude

I'll think of 4 more shows later

Czas na Zywiec · 06-17-2002, 04:31 PM

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Originally posted by Will and Grace Fanatic
Name 10 shows you think were groundbreaking tv shows.

Can you like explain a little more about what you mean? And you should have added an other choice if anyone else wanted to vote for a show not on the list.

°Bubbly Blonde° · 06-17-2002, 05:51 PM

I definitely have to go with All in the Family first off, because it was the first show to deal with sex, race, homosexuality, etc. and bigotry! Mary Tyler Moore was the first show about a woman who wasn't stuck in the house doing dishes, and she wasn't desperatley trying to get a man to take care of her. Ellen, the first homosexual with her comedy....but I also think The Cosby Show was kind of groundbreaking, which wasn't on the list....
Neways, heres my list of top 10:
All in the Family
Mary Tyler Moore
Sex and the City
Will and Grace
Ellen
The Sopranos
The Cosby Show
Laugh In
Three's Company

Mijada · 06-17-2002, 05:58 PM

I would have to say All in the Family

DarleneIllyria · 06-17-2002, 09:10 PM

Yeah, I would have to say All in the Family because of the fact it was on top of getting out controversial stuff.

Montana Ponine · 06-17-2002, 09:19 PM

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Originally posted by Jenny
Yeah, I would have to say All in the Family because of the fact it was on top of getting out controversial stuff.

Ditto. I agree 100%.

~Tropical Punch 19~ · 06-17-2002, 09:26 PM

MARRIED WITH CHILDREN. That definatley. Also, All in the Family.

LucyFan · 06-17-2002, 09:40 PM

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Originally posted by BubbleLuvGrl026
Mary Tyler Moore was the first show about a woman who wasn't stuck in the house doing dishes, and she wasn't desperatley trying to get a man to take care of her.

That is untrue. From what I have seen it was The Lucy Show (1962-1968) that was first show featuring a woman working outside of the home. As I recall, the main character called Lucy Carmichael was working as a secretary at a bank. With that information it totally contradicts the Mary Tyler Moore theory . .

°Bubbly Blonde° · 06-17-2002, 09:56 PM

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Originally posted by LucyFan

That is untrue. From what I have seen it was The Lucy Show (1962-1968) that was first show featuring a woman working outside of the home. As I recall, the main character called Lucy Carmichael was working as a secretary at a bank. With that information it totally contradicts the Mary Tyler Moore theory . .

Okay....well then MTM was one of the first women to be independent on t.v, my point is, the show was really groundbreaking for women and television.

TibbyTibby2 · 06-17-2002, 10:14 PM

I agree with what every said!

Will and Grace Fanatic · 06-18-2002, 01:01 AM

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Originally posted by Ricky Ricardo

Can you like explain a little more about what you mean? And you should have added an other choice if anyone else wanted to vote for a show not on the list.

ok what I mean is shows that changed the face of television by putting on topics that were taboo that no one wanted to talk about such as racisim, homosexuals, and hatred of women.

I personally think that Roseanne is the show that did the most groundbreaking things. The wife was the boss of the house and took care of most of the problems, homosexual characters had reaccuring roles such as Nancy and Leon. The children were not the perfect children, they had sex as teens got pregnant out of wedlock, ran away.

Superbatboy · 06-18-2002, 04:10 PM

Actually, I Love Lucy was probably the first groudbreaking series because it was the first show on Television to show an interracial couple.

But MANY series were groundbreaking for one reason or another:

All In the Family-First show to target the many biggots in America

Maude: First to have a VERY strong woman who was interested in civil rights and politics in the lead. Also dealt with many things not discussed on TV before, like abortion, homosexuality, plastic surgery, adultery etc;

The Cosby Show: The first show with an all black cast who weren't buffonish or poor. It was also the first and ONLY all black show to be #1 in the nielsen ratings.

Seinfeld: The first show to have intense sarcasm, and strange situations figure into many of the plots. Now MOST sitcoms today use Seinfeld's humor in one way or another.

Roseanne: First TV show to showcase blue-collar family life and make it funny.

Mary Tyler Moore: While MTM wasn't the first sitcom to show a woman on her own, it DID however have some racy scripts and adult humor previously not displayed on TV.

JT · 06-18-2002, 04:19 PM

Actually in my opinion, I think That Girl (1966-71) was the first show to really feature a woman who was independant. In the TG TV-Ography, Marlo Thomas said that her show was the first to feature just the girl. She before then it was always somebody's daughter, somebody's wife, somebody's sister, somebody's secretary, but Ann Marie was the somebody on her show.

James · 06-19-2002, 01:52 AM

I wonder what was the first show to "look back" on years past. My best guess would be "The Waltons" (1972-1981), which was designed to take place in the 1930s and 1940s. Then came "Happy Days" (1974-1984), "Little House on the Prairie" (1974-1983), "Laverne & Shirley" (1976-1983), and "The Wonder Years" (1988-1993), just to name four more. Five wonderful shows if you ask me!

"Looking back"--that's groundbreaking enough in my opinion! Personally I never cared for political themes or any of those other "firsts" mentioned in the other shows.

LILFACE23 · 11-13-2003, 01:18 AM

I voted for All In The Family. It was the first show to deal with all the topics most people were afraid to come forward with. Definitely put a bookmark in history with that one.

View Poll Results: Of this list which shows do you think had the most groundbreaking scripts?
All In The Family	31	70.45%
Roseanne	4	9.09%
Maude	0	0%
Threes Company	4	9.09%
Will and Grace	2	4.55%
Mary Tyler Moore	3	6.82%
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06-17-2002, 04:13 PM	#1
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Superbatboy The Brandon Show Forum Regular Join Date: Feb 25, 2002 Location: California..USA Posts: 793	Actually, I Love Lucy was probably the first groudbreaking series because it was the first show on Television to show an interracial couple. But MANY series were groundbreaking for one reason or another: All In the Family-First show to target the many biggots in America Maude: First to have a VERY strong woman who was interested in civil rights and politics in the lead. Also dealt with many things not discussed on TV before, like abortion, homosexuality, plastic surgery, adultery etc; The Cosby Show: The first show with an all black cast who weren't buffonish or poor. It was also the first and ONLY all black show to be #1 in the nielsen ratings. Seinfeld: The first show to have intense sarcasm, and strange situations figure into many of the plots. Now MOST sitcoms today use Seinfeld's humor in one way or another. Roseanne: First TV show to showcase blue-collar family life and make it funny. Mary Tyler Moore: While MTM wasn't the first sitcom to show a woman on her own, it DID however have some racy scripts and adult humor previously not displayed on TV.
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06-17-2002, 05:58 PM	#4
Mijada Spencers mom Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 02, 2001 Location: eastern US Posts: 4,093	I would have to say All in the Family

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DarleneIllyria Gone Forum Star Join Date: Oct 15, 2000 Posts: 19,086	Yeah, I would have to say All in the Family because of the fact it was on top of getting out controversial stuff.

06-17-2002, 09:26 PM	#7
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JT Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Apr 29, 2001 Location: USA Posts: 7,223	Actually in my opinion, I think That Girl (1966-71) was the first show to really feature a woman who was independant. In the TG TV-Ography, Marlo Thomas said that her show was the first to feature just the girl. She before then it was always somebody's daughter, somebody's wife, somebody's sister, somebody's secretary, but Ann Marie was the somebody on her show.
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06-19-2002, 01:52 AM	#14
James Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Jan 07, 2001 Location: Dayton, Ohio, USA Posts: 6,370	I wonder what was the first show to "look back" on years past. My best guess would be "The Waltons" (1972-1981), which was designed to take place in the 1930s and 1940s. Then came "Happy Days" (1974-1984), "Little House on the Prairie" (1974-1983), "Laverne & Shirley" (1976-1983), and "The Wonder Years" (1988-1993), just to name four more. Five wonderful shows if you ask me! "Looking back"--that's groundbreaking enough in my opinion! Personally I never cared for political themes or any of those other "firsts" mentioned in the other shows.

11-13-2003, 01:18 AM	#15
LILFACE23 MISS YOU GUYS Senior Member Join Date: Sep 17, 2003 Location: NEW YORK Posts: 1,354	I voted for All In The Family. It was the first show to deal with all the topics most people were afraid to come forward with. Definitely put a bookmark in history with that one.
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