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Scrabjan1 · 04-20-2018, 03:47 PM

This episode was really awkward and way too formal. Beaver in those tight belted pants made my blood run cold. Almost like when he snaps his fingers off beat to that generic bopping music? in Record Club.

How about when Wally is in his parents’ room just before the guests arrive cuz Ward wants to give him some last minute instructions. Beaver runs downstairs to nix the buggy ice cube when the doorbell rings. Wally yells “I’ll get it mom.” Isn’t he still in their room?? Beaver runs into the closet.

Eddie going into the kitchen to catch Beaver handling the sandwiches, which by now the bread is all stale, reminds me of Howard Sprague serving those dried up sandwiches at his batchelor bash. Who told Eddie to get the sandwiches? Why does he decide to look them over and take one, just to find the rubber cheese? Then he doesn’t laugh? Our Eddie doesn’t laugh?

stevea · 04-20-2018, 04:59 PM

I like how they're pawing the food...did they wash their hands? I think back in those times, they only washed their hands was when they looked dirty.

Just to jump on this episode a little more, I think Beaver had an opportunity to 'fess up to Wally before the festivities began, i.e., before anyone had a gag pulled on them. Sure would have saved him, but would have made the episode come up short, of course!

stevea · 04-20-2018, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Scrabjan1

...Almost like when he snaps his fingers off beat to that generic bopping music? in Record Club.

Oh, that generic music. Like in Beaver, the Hero when Beaver snubs his friends in the "malt shop," and gets the Beaver Special (for catching a football in a 8th grade game). They're playing that generic song they've played a million times before. Ugh!

At least on Donna Reed they could play some hits from the Colpix label that the kids on the show had.

Hazel Anyday · 04-20-2018, 11:21 PM

That's been a pet peeve of mine for a long time, the lousy generic soul-less bland by the numbers what passes for "rock and roll" music anytime a '60's sitcom has it in the script. I've explained in another thread a long time ago how this was the fault of the old people writing the shows, folks who were probably in their 40's or '50's in the '60's and whose good idea of music was Guy Lombardo or Lawrence Welk. This was the older generation's opinion and idea of what "rock and roll" was, simple minded tuneless non-danceable succession of notes. This was "rock and roll" to them. They didn't like it and presented it that way.

Scrabjan1 · 04-21-2018, 07:48 AM

I believe we also had to endure that generic noise on the radio before the announcer talks about the ballgame in Poor Loser. Watching the kids twisting at Wally’s party was cringe worthy, the saving grace was Lumpy doing an original dance. Too bad they couldn’t have played a little Beatles or Rolling Stones. Imagine them moving to Satisfaction? June would have sent everyone home.

The girls at the party were obnoxious.

stevea · 04-21-2018, 09:45 AM

Another reason for the generic music is MONEY. It costs money to license a song, and the public domain, generic stuff is free or next to nothing. So, not only are we dealing with old codgers of the Ray Coniff mentality (who liked what they heard when they went into the Sears store or the Howard Johnsons), but also we're dealing with CHEAPSKATES.

Another 50s/60s show we could hear decent songs on was Ozzie and Harriet. They had Ricky, luckily for them (and us).

04-20-2018, 03:47 PM	#1
Scrabjan1 Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 27, 2013 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 3,521	Party Spoiler This episode was really awkward and way too formal. Beaver in those tight belted pants made my blood run cold. Almost like when he snaps his fingers off beat to that generic bopping music? in Record Club. How about when Wally is in his parents’ room just before the guests arrive cuz Ward wants to give him some last minute instructions. Beaver runs downstairs to nix the buggy ice cube when the doorbell rings. Wally yells “I’ll get it mom.” Isn’t he still in their room?? Beaver runs into the closet. Eddie going into the kitchen to catch Beaver handling the sandwiches, which by now the bread is all stale, reminds me of Howard Sprague serving those dried up sandwiches at his batchelor bash. Who told Eddie to get the sandwiches? Why does he decide to look them over and take one, just to find the rubber cheese? Then he doesn’t laugh? Our Eddie doesn’t laugh?

04-20-2018, 11:21 PM	#4
Hazel Anyday Member Senior Member Join Date: Apr 12, 2002 Posts: 2,135	Born To Rock, Chata Chata Ching Ching Ching That's been a pet peeve of mine for a long time, the lousy generic soul-less bland by the numbers what passes for "rock and roll" music anytime a '60's sitcom has it in the script. I've explained in another thread a long time ago how this was the fault of the old people writing the shows, folks who were probably in their 40's or '50's in the '60's and whose good idea of music was Guy Lombardo or Lawrence Welk. This was the older generation's opinion and idea of what "rock and roll" was, simple minded tuneless non-danceable succession of notes. This was "rock and roll" to them. They didn't like it and presented it that way.
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04-20-2018, 04:59 PM	#2
stevea 22 Years On Sitcoms Moderator Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 13, 2003 Location: Indy Posts: 44,759	I like how they're pawing the food...did they wash their hands? I think back in those times, they only washed their hands was when they looked dirty. Just to jump on this episode a little more, I think Beaver had an opportunity to 'fess up to Wally before the festivities began, i.e., before anyone had a gag pulled on them. Sure would have saved him, but would have made the episode come up short, of course!

04-21-2018, 07:48 AM	#5
Scrabjan1 Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 27, 2013 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 3,521	I believe we also had to endure that generic noise on the radio before the announcer talks about the ballgame in Poor Loser. Watching the kids twisting at Wally’s party was cringe worthy, the saving grace was Lumpy doing an original dance. Too bad they couldn’t have played a little Beatles or Rolling Stones. Imagine them moving to Satisfaction? June would have sent everyone home. The girls at the party were obnoxious.

04-21-2018, 09:45 AM	#6
stevea 22 Years On Sitcoms Moderator Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 13, 2003 Location: Indy Posts: 44,759	Another reason for the generic music is MONEY. It costs money to license a song, and the public domain, generic stuff is free or next to nothing. So, not only are we dealing with old codgers of the Ray Coniff mentality (who liked what they heard when they went into the Sears store or the Howard Johnsons), but also we're dealing with CHEAPSKATES. Another 50s/60s show we could hear decent songs on was Ozzie and Harriet. They had Ricky, luckily for them (and us).