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stevea · 03-05-2018, 09:42 PM

Eddie insists he doesn't have to check in with the warden every time he makes a move, when Wally tells him he ought to call his parents and tell them he wants to spend the night at the Cleavers'.

Then Ward tells Eddie to call his father and tell him he's spending the night, and Eddie agrees to.

Later, "Frank" Haskell calls Ward long-distance from Freeport (both he and Mrs. Haskell are up there), and thanks him for letting Eddie spend the night, and that Eddie's edgy when he's home alone.

If the Haskells were going to be out of town and knew Eddie didn't like to be alone, wouldn't they have pre-arranged for him to stay with the Cleavers or someone else? And if that didn't happen, wouldn't Eddie have mentioned his parents were going to be out of town, when Ward told him to call his father?

Torgo · 03-06-2018, 09:34 AM

Eddie obviously didn't want the Cleavers to know the real reason he was spending the night, he most likely told his parents he would arrange things, which explains why the Haskells knew Eddie was staying there when Ward talked to Frank.

musictuff · 03-06-2018, 10:15 PM

In the same episode, when Eddie is helping to wash the dishes...he's at the sink, and he motions like he's turning on the water, but his hands are no where near the faucet.

Dude111 · 03-07-2018, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Torgo

Eddie obviously didn't want the Cleavers to know the real reason he was spending the night, he most likely told his parents he would arrange things, which explains why the Haskells knew Eddie was staying there when Ward talked to Frank.

Yes eddie felt embarrassed I guess.......

Scrabjan1 · 03-08-2018, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by musictuff

In the same episode, when Eddie is helping to wash the dishes...he's at the sink, and he motions like he's turning on the water, but his hands are no where near the faucet.

I have always loved to watch Eddie’s hands doing this twisting motion like he’s turning on the faucet. So fake he probably thought the camera was higher. That was for me as bad as seeing the camera come thru the ceiling in Last Day of School, a real blooper, or the guy’s foot in the beginning of Parking Attendants which is now cut out.

Yeah Eddie probably told his Dad he would arrange to stay at Cleavers and it was all set.

stevea · 03-08-2018, 10:29 PM

Or that episode near the end of season six where the boys are going upstairs, and the camera catches that boom mike. A good director would have retaken that scene (or you'd think the cinematographer would have noticed what he did), or it should have been dealt with in post-production.

The same comments would apply to these other gaffes.

Hazel Anyday · 03-08-2018, 11:56 PM

This week I watched S.6.11 Beaver The Sheepdog, in it I saw what could be considered a boo-boo. When Beaver is shown washing the gook out of his hair, camera's right in front of him and the sink basin holder, he's splashing water on his head and the water's falling down in front of the sink holder/sink basin. Right in front of the sink would have been a mirror not a empty blank space for water to fall in front of the sink.

It seems in the last year of the show they got more careless about making sure everything made sense and that there were no camera type bloopers. A boom mic, Eddie pretending to turn a faucet these are elementary mistakes they may have actually seen before the show aired but didn't care enough to fix it up. As for fixing that boom mic in post production, they probably would have had to shoot the scene over again as they didn't have digital correction back then.

Hazel Anyday · 03-09-2018, 12:00 AM

OH, also, in this Sheepdog episode it starts out with an establishing shot of the "Grammar School" sign over the doorway of Beaver's school. Now by Season 6 Beaver looked like he was well into his way thru Junior High, maybe 9th grade at the very least. Probably really like 10th grade in High School. So, doesn't Grammar School mean Elementary school grades 1-6? Either Beaver failed several years in a row like Lumpy or this was yet another 6th season Bleep Bloop & Blunder.

MMR · 03-09-2018, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Hazel Anyday

OH, also, in this Sheepdog episode it starts out with an establishing shot of the "Grammar School" sign over the doorway of Beaver's school. Now by Season 6 Beaver looked like he was well into his way thru Junior High, maybe 9th grade at the very least. Probably really like 10th grade in High School. So, doesn't Grammar School mean Elementary school grades 1-6? Either Beaver failed several years in a row like Lumpy or this was yet another 6th season Bleep Bloop & Blunder.

In Season 6 Beaver was in eighth grade, ready to graduate from grammar school and getting ready for high school the following year. That sounds about right.

Apparently that was not uncommon at the time (eight years of grammar school, four years of high school). I attended junior high school (grades 7-9) but the junior high was the former high school so I'd assume that prior to that junior high didn't exist in my town.

stevea · 03-09-2018, 12:14 PM

In our town Elementary School (Grammar School in LITB) was K-8...there was no Junior High or Middle School. This was around the same time as LITB.

In the show, they had to skip Beaver over the 7th grade due to Mathers' rapid growth during the fifth season (there were many mentions of him being in the sixth grade, in the fifth season). When the show started, he probably should have been in the third grade, not second.

Hazel Anyday · 03-09-2018, 06:36 PM

I went to school in the '60's and '70's and I went to Elem. 1 thru 6 then Jr. High 7-9 then to High School 10-12. That was my world, and Beaver looked like a kid in Jr. High to me.

Scrabjan1 · 03-10-2018, 01:49 PM

Same with me. In my town elementary school was 1-6 (no public kindergarten only private) junior high 7-9 and high school 10-12. It was never called grammar school. Now it’s called middle school around here and the grades vary from 4-6 or 6-8.

Mr B · 03-11-2018, 11:14 AM

When I was in school 1956-1969 Grade school was K-6, They just opened a JH 7-8 and HS 9-12

03-05-2018, 09:42 PM	#1
stevea 22 Years On Sitcoms Moderator Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 13, 2003 Location: Indy Posts: 44,799	"Eddie Spends The Night" Eddie insists he doesn't have to check in with the warden every time he makes a move, when Wally tells him he ought to call his parents and tell them he wants to spend the night at the Cleavers'. Then Ward tells Eddie to call his father and tell him he's spending the night, and Eddie agrees to. Later, "Frank" Haskell calls Ward long-distance from Freeport (both he and Mrs. Haskell are up there), and thanks him for letting Eddie spend the night, and that Eddie's edgy when he's home alone. If the Haskells were going to be out of town and knew Eddie didn't like to be alone, wouldn't they have pre-arranged for him to stay with the Cleavers or someone else? And if that didn't happen, wouldn't Eddie have mentioned his parents were going to be out of town, when Ward told him to call his father?

03-06-2018, 09:34 AM	#2
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03-08-2018, 11:56 PM	#7
Hazel Anyday Member Senior Member Join Date: Apr 12, 2002 Posts: 2,135	Bloops bleeps Blunders This week I watched S.6.11 Beaver The Sheepdog, in it I saw what could be considered a boo-boo. When Beaver is shown washing the gook out of his hair, camera's right in front of him and the sink basin holder, he's splashing water on his head and the water's falling down in front of the sink holder/sink basin. Right in front of the sink would have been a mirror not a empty blank space for water to fall in front of the sink. It seems in the last year of the show they got more careless about making sure everything made sense and that there were no camera type bloopers. A boom mic, Eddie pretending to turn a faucet these are elementary mistakes they may have actually seen before the show aired but didn't care enough to fix it up. As for fixing that boom mic in post production, they probably would have had to shoot the scene over again as they didn't have digital correction back then.
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03-09-2018, 12:00 AM	#8
Hazel Anyday Member Senior Member Join Date: Apr 12, 2002 Posts: 2,135	Beaver Held Back OH, also, in this Sheepdog episode it starts out with an establishing shot of the "Grammar School" sign over the doorway of Beaver's school. Now by Season 6 Beaver looked like he was well into his way thru Junior High, maybe 9th grade at the very least. Probably really like 10th grade in High School. So, doesn't Grammar School mean Elementary school grades 1-6? Either Beaver failed several years in a row like Lumpy or this was yet another 6th season Bleep Bloop & Blunder.

03-06-2018, 10:15 PM	#3
musictuff Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Oct 02, 2003 Posts: 38	In the same episode, when Eddie is helping to wash the dishes...he's at the sink, and he motions like he's turning on the water, but his hands are no where near the faucet.

03-08-2018, 10:29 PM	#6
stevea 22 Years On Sitcoms Moderator Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 13, 2003 Location: Indy Posts: 44,799	Or that episode near the end of season six where the boys are going upstairs, and the camera catches that boom mike. A good director would have retaken that scene (or you'd think the cinematographer would have noticed what he did), or it should have been dealt with in post-production. The same comments would apply to these other gaffes.

03-09-2018, 12:14 PM	#10
stevea 22 Years On Sitcoms Moderator Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 13, 2003 Location: Indy Posts: 44,799	In our town Elementary School (Grammar School in LITB) was K-8...there was no Junior High or Middle School. This was around the same time as LITB. In the show, they had to skip Beaver over the 7th grade due to Mathers' rapid growth during the fifth season (there were many mentions of him being in the sixth grade, in the fifth season). When the show started, he probably should have been in the third grade, not second.

03-09-2018, 06:36 PM	#11
Hazel Anyday Member Senior Member Join Date: Apr 12, 2002 Posts: 2,135	I went to school in the '60's and '70's and I went to Elem. 1 thru 6 then Jr. High 7-9 then to High School 10-12. That was my world, and Beaver looked like a kid in Jr. High to me.

03-10-2018, 01:49 PM	#12
Scrabjan1 Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 27, 2013 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 3,521	Same with me. In my town elementary school was 1-6 (no public kindergarten only private) junior high 7-9 and high school 10-12. It was never called grammar school. Now it’s called middle school around here and the grades vary from 4-6 or 6-8.

03-11-2018, 11:14 AM	#13
Mr B Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Apr 13, 2002 Posts: 136	When I was in school 1956-1969 Grade school was K-6, They just opened a JH 7-8 and HS 9-12