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zombi2 · 02-21-2018, 03:42 PM

I sorted out the Wide World of Mystery series and unfortunately many installments have been missing for decades. The broadcast tapes of some of these were wiped by ABC and in most cases kinescopes were either never made or have been missing since the early 80s. Off-air recordings may be the only copies left in existence. It's a shame film preservation societies don't actively get the word out on endangered films. Would have been particularly useful before the mass "VHS purge" of the early 2000s when most home tapes went into the trash but better late than never. They're too busy pining for turn-of-the-century novelties I guess.

Besides myself I know several other collectors looking for these. If you have any it's imperative they get into the hands of someone who'll make back-ups with good equipment. I'm still in the process of adding info to these but anything tagged "lost" is critical, anything tagged "arc" exists in film archives but is still sought after as those aren't viewable by the general public.

Wide World of Mystery episode guide

emjeb · 02-21-2018, 03:59 PM

I dont see tags next to Werewolf of Woodstalk and Shadow of Fear,i got those two.

zombi2 · 02-21-2018, 04:22 PM

Werewolf of Woodstock is on the grey market already. I had it posted to youtube at one time but it actually got a copyright strike from Dick Clark Productions who's been neglecting it for 40 years (why renew the copyright just to bury it?).

Shadow of Fear is one of the few to get an actual release. It's on a DVD double feature with Nightmare at 43 Hillcrest.

seanmc1114 · 02-23-2018, 01:01 PM

I see you show Death Cruise is available in some form. I recently watched it on one of the streaming services. I believe it was Netflix, but it may have been on Amazon Prime. It was a faded copy but still pretty decent.

Also, I have a copy of One Deadly Owner transferred from betamax with original commercials. I believe it was from a mid-80s late night airing on WGN.

knicksfan89 · 02-23-2018, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by seanmc1114

I see you show Death Cruise is available in some form. I recently watched it on one of the streaming services. I believe it was Netflix, but it may have been on Amazon Prime. It was a faded copy but still pretty decent.

Also, I have a copy of One Deadly Owner transferred from betamax with original commercials. I believe it was from a mid-80s late night airing on WGN.

Can you send me your list please Sean?

knicksfan89 · 02-23-2018, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by zombi2

Werewolf of Woodstock is on the grey market already. I had it posted to youtube at one time but it actually got a copyright strike from Dick Clark Productions who's been neglecting it for 40 years (why renew the copyright just to bury it?).

Shadow of Fear is one of the few to get an actual release. It's on a DVD double feature with Nightmare at 43 Hillcrest.

Do you have a list as I have sent you an email?

zombi2 · 03-01-2018, 01:27 PM

These are the lost films in the series:

A BEAUTIFUL KILLING
THE BLACK BOX MURDERS
THE BOOK OF MURDER
THE BREAK*
THE CENTERFOLD MURDERS
CHANT OF SILENCE
DEADLY VOLLEY
DEATH IS A BAD TRIP
DEMON, DEMON
DISTANT EARLY WARNING
HALFWAY TO DANGER
HARD DAY AT BLUE NOSE
THE HAUNTING OF PENTHOUSE D
HOUSE OF EVIL
LEGACY OF BLOOD
A LITTLE BIT LIKE MURDER
MOVING TARGET
MURDER AND THE COMPUTER
MURDER BY PROXY
THE MURDERERS
MURDER WORKS OVERTIME
MYSTERY AT MALIBU
NIGHTMARE STEP
NIGHT TRAIN TO TERROR
THE NORMING OF JACK 243
THE NURSE KILLER
PLEASE CALL IT MURDER
PLEASE STANDBY FOR MURDER
POLICE HEADQUARTERS
A PROWLER IN THE HEART
ROCK-A-DIE BABY
THE SATAN MURDERS
THE SCREAMING SKULL**
SHOCK-A-BYE BABY
THE SPACE-WATCH MURDERS
THE SPY WHO RETURNED FROM THE DEAD
THE SUICIDE CLUB
TERROR IN THE NIGHT
TIGHT AS A DRUM
TOO EASY TO KILL
THE TWO DEATHS OF SEAN DOLITTLE
VIOLENCE IN BLUE
VISIT FROM A DEAD MAN

*This exists at BFI but is missing about 30 sec. due to tape damage so complete version is technically lost.
**This exists on kinescope but is in B&W so color version is lost.

I still have to put together the ones that only exist in archives.

knicksfan: I don't see a message in my inbox, here or email. Try theburialground3@gmail.com

KRW · 03-01-2018, 01:37 PM

I've seen The Centerfold Murders on people's lists before. Mainly on ones that no longer trade.

zombi2 · 03-01-2018, 02:09 PM

These are in a film archive but no other copies are known to exist. Archive copies may sit indefinitely without ever being utilized because they are not considered a priority. So for those who care about....you know, watching the movie, an archival print existing is pretty much irrelevant. You'll still never see it.

AND THE BONES CAME TOGETHER
THE DEADLY VISITOR
DEATH IN SPACE*
A GIFT OF TERROR
THE HAUNTING OF ROSALIND
THE HOUSE AND THE BRAIN
THE IMPERSONATION MURDER CASE
MR. AND MS. AND THE BANDSTAND MYSTERY
MR. AND MS. AND THE MAGIC STUDIO MURDERS
MURDER IMPOSSIBLE
MURDER IN THE FIRST PERSON SINGULAR
NICK AND NORA
NIGHTLIFE
SONG OF THE SUCCUBUS
SORORITY KILL

*This was released on VHS in Spain. No english language copies have been found other than one at Library of Congress.

zombi2 · 03-01-2018, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by KRW

I've seen The Centerfold Murders on people's lists before. Mainly on ones that no longer trade.

As a have? That's be cool cause I haven't found evidence of a broadcast more recent than 1982.

KRW · 03-01-2018, 10:29 PM

In people's haves, yes. It probably was a 80's broadcast they had. It's been a few years though.

knicksfan89 · 03-05-2018, 05:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zombi2

These are the lost films in the series:

A BEAUTIFUL KILLING
THE BLACK BOX MURDERS
THE BOOK OF MURDER
THE BREAK*
THE CENTERFOLD MURDERS
CHANT OF SILENCE
DEADLY VOLLEY
DEATH IS A BAD TRIP
DEMON, DEMON
DISTANT EARLY WARNING
HALFWAY TO DANGER
HARD DAY AT BLUE NOSE
THE HAUNTING OF PENTHOUSE D
HOUSE OF EVIL
LEGACY OF BLOOD
A LITTLE BIT LIKE MURDER
MOVING TARGET
MURDER AND THE COMPUTER
MURDER BY PROXY
THE MURDERERS
MURDER WORKS OVERTIME
MYSTERY AT MALIBU
NIGHTMARE STEP
NIGHT TRAIN TO TERROR
THE NORMING OF JACK 243
THE NURSE KILLER
PLEASE CALL IT MURDER
PLEASE STANDBY FOR MURDER
POLICE HEADQUARTERS
A PROWLER IN THE HEART
ROCK-A-DIE BABY
THE SATAN MURDERS
THE SCREAMING SKULL**
SHOCK-A-BYE BABY
THE SPACE-WATCH MURDERS
THE SPY WHO RETURNED FROM THE DEAD
THE SUICIDE CLUB
TERROR IN THE NIGHT
TIGHT AS A DRUM
TOO EASY TO KILL
THE TWO DEATHS OF SEAN DOLITTLE
VIOLENCE IN BLUE
VISIT FROM A DEAD MAN

*This exists at BFI but is missing about 30 sec. due to tape damage so complete version is technically lost.
**This exists on kinescope but is in B&W so color version is lost.

I still have to put together the ones that only exist in archives.

knicksfan: I don't see a message in my inbox, here or email. Try theburialground3@gmail.com

I emailed you friday at your email address you posted here

AmethystMoon · 05-05-2019, 04:47 PM

I'm desperate to get hold of THE NORMING OF JACK 243. Can anyone help?

I have various unreleased series and films I'm more than happy to trade for it if anyone has it -- though I don't know if I have anything anyone would be interested in.

probeship1 · 05-18-2019, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by AmethystMoon

I'm desperate to get hold of THE NORMING OF JACK 243. Can anyone help?

I have various unreleased series and films I'm more than happy to trade for it if anyone has it -- though I don't know if I have anything anyone would be interested in.

I have The Norming of Jack 243

AmethystMoon · 05-20-2019, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by probeship1

I have The Norming of Jack 243

Oh, wow, thank you so much for your reply! Would you be willing to share it with me? I can send you a list of bootlegs I have for trade -- you can email me at tessfjones@gmail.com if that's all right? Thank you again for replying!!

02-21-2018, 03:42 PM	#1
zombi2 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Mar 18, 2013 Posts: 65	Homemade recordings only hope for lost TV films I sorted out the Wide World of Mystery series and unfortunately many installments have been missing for decades. The broadcast tapes of some of these were wiped by ABC and in most cases kinescopes were either never made or have been missing since the early 80s. Off-air recordings may be the only copies left in existence. It's a shame film preservation societies don't actively get the word out on endangered films. Would have been particularly useful before the mass "VHS purge" of the early 2000s when most home tapes went into the trash but better late than never. They're too busy pining for turn-of-the-century novelties I guess. Besides myself I know several other collectors looking for these. If you have any it's imperative they get into the hands of someone who'll make back-ups with good equipment. I'm still in the process of adding info to these but anything tagged "lost" is critical, anything tagged "arc" exists in film archives but is still sought after as those aren't viewable by the general public. Wide World of Mystery episode guide

02-21-2018, 03:59 PM	#2
emjeb Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Feb 19, 2012 Location: serbia Posts: 198	I dont see tags next to Werewolf of Woodstalk and Shadow of Fear,i got those two.

02-21-2018, 04:22 PM	#3
zombi2 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Mar 18, 2013 Posts: 65	Werewolf of Woodstock is on the grey market already. I had it posted to youtube at one time but it actually got a copyright strike from Dick Clark Productions who's been neglecting it for 40 years (why renew the copyright just to bury it?). Shadow of Fear is one of the few to get an actual release. It's on a DVD double feature with Nightmare at 43 Hillcrest.

02-23-2018, 01:01 PM	#4
seanmc1114 seanmc1114 Occasional Poster Join Date: Sep 02, 2006 Location: Reynolds, GA Posts: 96	I see you show Death Cruise is available in some form. I recently watched it on one of the streaming services. I believe it was Netflix, but it may have been on Amazon Prime. It was a faded copy but still pretty decent. Also, I have a copy of One Deadly Owner transferred from betamax with original commercials. I believe it was from a mid-80s late night airing on WGN.

03-01-2018, 01:27 PM	#7
zombi2 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Mar 18, 2013 Posts: 65	These are the lost films in the series: A BEAUTIFUL KILLING THE BLACK BOX MURDERS THE BOOK OF MURDER THE BREAK* THE CENTERFOLD MURDERS CHANT OF SILENCE DEADLY VOLLEY DEATH IS A BAD TRIP DEMON, DEMON DISTANT EARLY WARNING HALFWAY TO DANGER HARD DAY AT BLUE NOSE THE HAUNTING OF PENTHOUSE D HOUSE OF EVIL LEGACY OF BLOOD A LITTLE BIT LIKE MURDER MOVING TARGET MURDER AND THE COMPUTER MURDER BY PROXY THE MURDERERS MURDER WORKS OVERTIME MYSTERY AT MALIBU NIGHTMARE STEP NIGHT TRAIN TO TERROR THE NORMING OF JACK 243 THE NURSE KILLER PLEASE CALL IT MURDER PLEASE STANDBY FOR MURDER POLICE HEADQUARTERS A PROWLER IN THE HEART ROCK-A-DIE BABY THE SATAN MURDERS THE SCREAMING SKULL** SHOCK-A-BYE BABY THE SPACE-WATCH MURDERS THE SPY WHO RETURNED FROM THE DEAD THE SUICIDE CLUB TERROR IN THE NIGHT TIGHT AS A DRUM TOO EASY TO KILL THE TWO DEATHS OF SEAN DOLITTLE VIOLENCE IN BLUE VISIT FROM A DEAD MAN This exists at BFI but is missing about 30 sec. due to tape damage so complete version is technically lost. *This exists on kinescope but is in B&W so color version is lost. I still have to put together the ones that only exist in archives. knicksfan: I don't see a message in my inbox, here or email. Try theburialground3@gmail.com

03-01-2018, 01:37 PM	#8
KRW One Bad Mother Funker Forum Regular Join Date: May 23, 2017 Location: The Funk Dojo Posts: 899	I've seen The Centerfold Murders on people's lists before. Mainly on ones that no longer trade.

03-01-2018, 02:09 PM	#9
zombi2 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Mar 18, 2013 Posts: 65	These are in a film archive but no other copies are known to exist. Archive copies may sit indefinitely without ever being utilized because they are not considered a priority. So for those who care about....you know, watching the movie, an archival print existing is pretty much irrelevant. You'll still never see it. AND THE BONES CAME TOGETHER THE DEADLY VISITOR DEATH IN SPACE* A GIFT OF TERROR THE HAUNTING OF ROSALIND THE HOUSE AND THE BRAIN THE IMPERSONATION MURDER CASE MR. AND MS. AND THE BANDSTAND MYSTERY MR. AND MS. AND THE MAGIC STUDIO MURDERS MURDER IMPOSSIBLE MURDER IN THE FIRST PERSON SINGULAR NICK AND NORA NIGHTLIFE SONG OF THE SUCCUBUS SORORITY KILL *This was released on VHS in Spain. No english language copies have been found other than one at Library of Congress.

03-01-2018, 10:29 PM	#11
KRW One Bad Mother Funker Forum Regular Join Date: May 23, 2017 Location: The Funk Dojo Posts: 899	In people's haves, yes. It probably was a 80's broadcast they had. It's been a few years though.

05-05-2019, 04:47 PM	#13
AmethystMoon Member Forum Cub Join Date: Apr 27, 2019 Location: UK Posts: 2	I'm desperate to get hold of THE NORMING OF JACK 243. Can anyone help? I have various unreleased series and films I'm more than happy to trade for it if anyone has it -- though I don't know if I have anything anyone would be interested in.