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boechsner · 12-30-2017, 12:50 AM

Valerie/Valerie's Family/The Hogans/The Hogan Family is finally back on the air! It hasn't aired since it left ABC Family in October 2006! Most episodes from Season 4, 5 and 6 haven't aired anywhere since they aired on PAX back in 2000.

Thus far, I have watched all 5 episodes Antenna TV has aired:

Season 6's Ho Ho Hogans on Christmas Day

Tonights Airings of:
Season 1's Sick House
Season 2's Of Human Blondage and Caught on a Hot Tin Roof
Season 4's Animal House

Here are six observations and thoughts:

1. YAY! This is my favorite family sitcom of the 80s and I am so glad it's back on.

2. The Valerie title is intact and the opening credits are unedited and they are full length. Syndication/ABC Family and PAX edited the opening credits down. So this is refreshing and gives me hope that the openings for Season 3 (Valerie's Family season) will be in tact.

3. The episodes seem to be unedited. I am seeing new scenes that I have never seen before and in recording these, the episodes seem to run about 23-24 minutes. Ho Ho Hogans was only 22 minutes, full theme in tact but scenes most likely cut.

4. Yes, the credit crunching is annoying! I hate it when one episode goes off while another episode is coming on. However, the four episodes that aired in prime time tonight, had the opening credits uncrunched and just the closing had Antenna TV ads running over the closing credits. I fear in it's weekday timeslot, we will have credit crunch city!

5. Ho Ho Hogans had the original CBS Surround Sound banner!! Is there hope that we could see the NBC In Stereo Where Available?

6. Despite the credit crunch! I feel Antenna TV is doing well so far. I am glad it's back on and am enjoying seeing scenes that haven't been seen since they originally aired.

Kasey · 12-30-2017, 12:05 PM

I don't get Antenna. I hope someone is recording a full cycle of these for sale/trade later.

MA · 12-30-2017, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasey

I don't get Antenna. I hope someone is recording a full cycle of these for sale/trade later.

I don't get it either.

mets82 · 12-30-2017, 01:19 PM

I saw The Christmas Episode. I missed it last night. Where the hell have I been?

TV Guy · 12-30-2017, 01:29 PM

I’m pleasantly surprised to hear this, because Antenna really butchers some of its shows, like All in the Family.

Also nice to see them use the original title, Valerie, for those episodes. I feel like the Hogan Family is a different show than Valerie, in terms of tone.

Svenfan1234 · 12-30-2017, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by TV Guy

I’m pleasantly surprised to hear this, because Antenna really butchers some of its shows, like All in the Family.

Also nice to see them use the original title, Valerie, for those episodes. I feel like the Hogan Family is a different show than Valerie, in terms of tone.

Logo does much worse by All in the Family when they air it. Long commercial breaks and over 7 minutes cut out of each episode! Antenna at least airs the clean edited versions where you can't tell if anything is missing.

mets82 · 12-30-2017, 07:04 PM

Not only that, but it seems ALL Viacom channels cut scenes and has extra long commercials.

TV Guy · 12-31-2017, 07:56 AM

I have to disagree about AITF. Antenna will air episodes where they start the show in the middle of the first scene! I guess I know the show really well, because I can tell there is a lot missing.

We’ll see if GetTV is any better starting this week.

AngieTribeca · 01-01-2018, 10:32 PM

Hopefully if the show does well, it will make a studio consider releasing it on DVD. One Day at a Time went from being off the air for decades to coming back to TV (Antenna TV and Logo) with a reboot following later on as well as a complete series DVD release in December of last year.

I am hoping that Antenna TV stops credit crunching so much this year.If they do, I hope that they at least leave the opening credits in tact because I think most of us have learned to live without the ending credits of shows considering how networks air shows these days.

Sonny Carson · 01-08-2018, 06:18 PM

I've been checking out the reruns and it's still a very good show. I have a feeling I'll like the 'Sandy Duncan episodes' a bit less though! It will still probaly be better than the 'Growing Pains' and 'Head Of The Class' reruns I've been watching. Those show' should don't hold up as well to me. Though Head Of The Class did get better when Rain Pryor joined the show.

AngieTribeca · 01-09-2018, 10:11 AM

The episodes appear slightly edited. The runtime is almost always 22 minutes and change. If Antenna did not credit crunch, the episodes would probably run an additional 2 minutes longer since both the opening and closing credits are about a minute or so long.

I keep recycling the same season 1 intro from the holiday marathon so at least of my season 1 recordings will have the complete intro without the annoying credit crunch. They aired a season 2 episode in that marathon as well so all of my season 2 episodes should have complete uninterrupted intros as well.

AngieTribeca · 01-09-2018, 10:13 AM

I also love that Antenna TV is airing the complete intro (regardless of credit crunching). In syndication, the shorter intro is notoriously used (ABC Family, PAX TV)

Svenfan1234 · 01-09-2018, 12:12 PM

I like this show after discovering it on Antenna TV. It's a good show. Even though it is disappointing that Antenna credit crunches, at least the shows sound like they're uncut for this one complete with complete intro. Maybe if it does well Warner Archive will release it or license it out to Shout! Factory.

'80sSitcoms · 01-09-2018, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Sonny Carson

I've been checking out the reruns and it's still a very good show. I have a feeling I'll like the 'Sandy Duncan episodes' a bit less though! It will still probably be better than the 'Growing Pains' and 'Head Of The Class' reruns I've been watching. Those show' should don't hold up as well to me. Though Head Of The Class did get better when Rain Pryor joined the show.

I'm loving watching this show too! And I really love that they're using the original "Valerie" title where it should be.

I wasn't as big on HotC in the last season. I really enjoy the first 3 or 4 seasons though, and find it still a really fun nostalgic trip back. I think it holds up just fine, largely because I find it so interesting watching the different individualized personalities of (most of) the kids interacting with each other and Mr. Moore. Now, GP, I can't get back into (I tried, but couldn't get past a few episodes).

rcbrad · 01-09-2018, 10:20 PM

I was really very surprised to see that they were using Valerie as the show's title. I wonder if this was a mistake? Part of the details of the outcome of the lawsuit involving Valerie Harper being wrongfully fired from the show, was that they could no longer use her name for the show's title. The lawsuit was settled in Harper's favor.

I still wonder if the usage of the title "Valerie" during this run of the series was done in error by using the wrong prints?

This was my favorite show by this team of producers. I plan on watching all of the episodes again.

12-30-2017, 12:50 AM	#1
boechsner Member Senior Member Join Date: Oct 18, 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI Posts: 2,212	Antenna TV Thoughts/Review Valerie/Valerie's Family/The Hogans/The Hogan Family is finally back on the air! It hasn't aired since it left ABC Family in October 2006! Most episodes from Season 4, 5 and 6 haven't aired anywhere since they aired on PAX back in 2000. Thus far, I have watched all 5 episodes Antenna TV has aired: Season 6's Ho Ho Hogans on Christmas Day Tonights Airings of: Season 1's Sick House Season 2's Of Human Blondage and Caught on a Hot Tin Roof Season 4's Animal House Here are six observations and thoughts: 1. YAY! This is my favorite family sitcom of the 80s and I am so glad it's back on. 2. The Valerie title is intact and the opening credits are unedited and they are full length. Syndication/ABC Family and PAX edited the opening credits down. So this is refreshing and gives me hope that the openings for Season 3 (Valerie's Family season) will be in tact. 3. The episodes seem to be unedited. I am seeing new scenes that I have never seen before and in recording these, the episodes seem to run about 23-24 minutes. Ho Ho Hogans was only 22 minutes, full theme in tact but scenes most likely cut. 4. Yes, the credit crunching is annoying! I hate it when one episode goes off while another episode is coming on. However, the four episodes that aired in prime time tonight, had the opening credits uncrunched and just the closing had Antenna TV ads running over the closing credits. I fear in it's weekday timeslot, we will have credit crunch city! 5. Ho Ho Hogans had the original CBS Surround Sound banner!! Is there hope that we could see the NBC In Stereo Where Available? 6. Despite the credit crunch! I feel Antenna TV is doing well so far. I am glad it's back on and am enjoying seeing scenes that haven't been seen since they originally aired.

12-30-2017, 01:19 PM	#4
mets82 Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Mar 14, 2011 Location: Connecticut Posts: 5,058	I saw The Christmas Episode. I missed it last night. Where the hell have I been?
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12-30-2017, 12:05 PM	#2
Kasey Member Senior Member Join Date: Aug 22, 2004 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,143	I don't get Antenna. I hope someone is recording a full cycle of these for sale/trade later.

12-30-2017, 01:29 PM	#5
TV Guy Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 25, 2001 Location: Boston, MA, USA Posts: 3,419	I’m pleasantly surprised to hear this, because Antenna really butchers some of its shows, like All in the Family. Also nice to see them use the original title, Valerie, for those episodes. I feel like the Hogan Family is a different show than Valerie, in terms of tone.

12-30-2017, 07:04 PM	#7
mets82 Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Mar 14, 2011 Location: Connecticut Posts: 5,058	Not only that, but it seems ALL Viacom channels cut scenes and has extra long commercials.

12-31-2017, 07:56 AM	#8
TV Guy Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 25, 2001 Location: Boston, MA, USA Posts: 3,419	I have to disagree about AITF. Antenna will air episodes where they start the show in the middle of the first scene! I guess I know the show really well, because I can tell there is a lot missing. We’ll see if GetTV is any better starting this week.

01-01-2018, 10:32 PM	#9
AngieTribeca Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jan 20, 2016 Location: Canada Posts: 319	Hopefully if the show does well, it will make a studio consider releasing it on DVD. One Day at a Time went from being off the air for decades to coming back to TV (Antenna TV and Logo) with a reboot following later on as well as a complete series DVD release in December of last year. I am hoping that Antenna TV stops credit crunching so much this year.If they do, I hope that they at least leave the opening credits in tact because I think most of us have learned to live without the ending credits of shows considering how networks air shows these days.

01-08-2018, 06:18 PM	#10
Sonny Carson Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Feb 26, 2012 Location: Southfield, Michigan Posts: 395	I've been checking out the reruns and it's still a very good show. I have a feeling I'll like the 'Sandy Duncan episodes' a bit less though! It will still probaly be better than the 'Growing Pains' and 'Head Of The Class' reruns I've been watching. Those show' should don't hold up as well to me. Though Head Of The Class did get better when Rain Pryor joined the show.

01-09-2018, 10:11 AM	#11
AngieTribeca Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jan 20, 2016 Location: Canada Posts: 319	The episodes appear slightly edited. The runtime is almost always 22 minutes and change. If Antenna did not credit crunch, the episodes would probably run an additional 2 minutes longer since both the opening and closing credits are about a minute or so long. I keep recycling the same season 1 intro from the holiday marathon so at least of my season 1 recordings will have the complete intro without the annoying credit crunch. They aired a season 2 episode in that marathon as well so all of my season 2 episodes should have complete uninterrupted intros as well.

01-09-2018, 10:13 AM	#12
AngieTribeca Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jan 20, 2016 Location: Canada Posts: 319	I also love that Antenna TV is airing the complete intro (regardless of credit crunching). In syndication, the shorter intro is notoriously used (ABC Family, PAX TV)

01-09-2018, 12:12 PM	#13
Svenfan1234 Member Forum Star Join Date: Dec 12, 2015 Posts: 11,200	I like this show after discovering it on Antenna TV. It's a good show. Even though it is disappointing that Antenna credit crunches, at least the shows sound like they're uncut for this one complete with complete intro. Maybe if it does well Warner Archive will release it or license it out to Shout! Factory.

01-09-2018, 10:20 PM	#15
rcbrad Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jan 21, 2007 Posts: 479	I was really very surprised to see that they were using Valerie as the show's title. I wonder if this was a mistake? Part of the details of the outcome of the lawsuit involving Valerie Harper being wrongfully fired from the show, was that they could no longer use her name for the show's title. The lawsuit was settled in Harper's favor. I still wonder if the usage of the title "Valerie" during this run of the series was done in error by using the wrong prints? This was my favorite show by this team of producers. I plan on watching all of the episodes again.