What do you all think of Billy Gray's hate for the show? - Sitcoms Online Message Boards

CanICallYouDad · 09-09-2017, 02:28 PM

He makes me laugh when I listen to him. He sounds like Bud that didn't learn a thing

stevea · 09-13-2017, 05:36 PM

It's typical of some child stars. Gary Coleman, Susan Dey, and Kim Fields come to mind as child actors who shunned their former shows to one degree or another.

It must be difficult for a child to be an actor. The profession would be a full-time job for an adult actor, but a child must also go to school, learn lines, rehearse, sit in on staff meetings, and who knows what.

Torgo · 09-13-2017, 06:07 PM

Is it the show itself, or his experience working on it?

stevea · 09-13-2017, 06:42 PM

He has panned the show itself. He needs to realize that its assumptions were a reflection of its times.

You could sit there and pick apart all older shows, even Lucy.

CanICallYouDad · 09-13-2017, 07:50 PM

He would like work even at his age so if he says all the right things maybe someone will hire him. That's Bud without his Dad. And you are right stevea the show reflected the times and there is no harm in that.

stevea · 09-28-2017, 01:46 PM

I agree about saying the right things. In Hollywood, you must go along with the group mentality, or suffer the consequences. You have to be very high up on the ladder to buck the crowd.

CanICallYouDad · 09-28-2017, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by stevea

I agree about saying the right things. In Hollywood, you must go along with the group mentality, or suffer the consequences. You have to be very high up on the ladder to buck the crowd.

He must be hoping cause he hasn't been in anything the last 20+ years

PhoenixAcres · 07-24-2018, 03:10 PM

He seems to have mellowed on this a bit. In May 2018 he did an interview and had some positive things to say about the show and the people he worked with.

http://boomertown.libsyn.com/father-...vies-from-1954

The FKB stuff starts around minute 20:11. He lays out the genesis of the series and why the original title had a question mark. It's a good behind the scenes talk. There's also a 1988 interview with Jane Wyatt.

gidgetgrape · 07-25-2018, 12:39 PM

Two or three years ago, Billy attended a fan convention with Elinor Donahue and Lauren Chapin so I think he has at least made peace with it. I've forgotten the name of the convention, but I read that they were selling photos of all three together.

OH Nuts! · 12-25-2018, 12:53 PM

I think he should get over himself. There are so many actors who’d give their right arm to be in a successful sitcom; I have NO PATIENCE for his whining.

dee2364 · 02-23-2019, 04:48 PM

It became fashionable to hate on FKB so I'm guessing he bashed the show to disassociate himself from it.

omg65 · 08-20-2019, 04:02 PM

Is it possible that Billy's home life was bad so he resented the good life that FKB stood for and that he never had ? I have no idea and just throwing it out there.Justified or not, his hatred of the show seems very strange.

Hazel Anyday · 08-21-2019, 10:09 PM

I have no idea that Bud ever professed hatred of the show, but let's assume so, I have no doubt that he (if he did) trashed the show in order to get in good with the extremist anti-America crowd in Hollywood whose motto is "Hate America at all times and Blame America First for anything possible".

This crowd of Hollywood commies I'm sure would have thought of Bud as the son of Mr. America and a wonderful example of all that's great about America back when America was really great all thru the Reagan years until George Bush Sr. and all the rest of the establishment politicians came along up until the 2nd Greatest President (after Ronald Reagan) came along, Donald Trump.

Yes, I'm sure left wing commies of Tinsel Town thought of Bud as a prime target for today's lib blacklisting against any star who loves this country and refuses to mouthe the words of their hatred of the greatness of America.

dee2364 · 08-22-2019, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by omg65

Is it possible that Billy's home life was bad so he resented the good life that FKB stood for and that he never had ? I have no idea and just throwing it out there.Justified or not, his hatred of the show seems very strange.

Maybe so, but it definitely did become fashionable after this show aired to hate on it, and I can see someone like Billy Gray jumping on the bandwagon for this very reason. When I was growing up, FKB was the show that was singled out as the typical 1950s sitcom that "lied" to everyone about how perfect family life was. This is bizarre to me, because it was actually the opposite of that, and there were other shows that were far more guilty of what it was accused of.

I think that this backlash started with people who never actually watched it, and just used it as a convenient scapegoat for the type of "fake" 1950s shows that they hated. There was an episode of Alice where she bashed it because she said it always showed Robert Young being the "perfect father" smoking his pipe. And of course, he never, ever did that. The writer who wrote that line had never watched the show, clearly.

omg65 · 10-03-2019, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Hazel Anyday

I have no idea that Bud ever professed hatred of the show, but let's assume so, I have no doubt that he (if he did) trashed the show in order to get in good with the extremist anti-America crowd in Hollywood whose motto is "Hate America at all times and Blame America First for anything possible".

This crowd of Hollywood commies I'm sure would have thought of Bud as the son of Mr. America and a wonderful example of all that's great about America back when America was really great all thru the Reagan years until George Bush Sr. and all the rest of the establishment politicians came along up until the 2nd Greatest President (after Ronald Reagan) came along, Donald Trump.

Yes, I'm sure left wing commies of Tinsel Town thought of Bud as a prime target for today's lib blacklisting against any star who loves this country and refuses to mouthe the words of their hatred of the greatness of America.

I agree. I think they resent what they never had and take it out on the rest of the country. Angry people are easily manipulated.

09-09-2017, 02:28 PM	#1
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09-13-2017, 06:07 PM	#3
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08-20-2019, 04:02 PM	#12
omg65 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Sep 05, 2006 Location: hilliard oh Posts: 403	Is it possible that Billy's home life was bad so he resented the good life that FKB stood for and that he never had ? I have no idea and just throwing it out there.Justified or not, his hatred of the show seems very strange.
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08-21-2019, 10:09 PM	#13
Hazel Anyday Member Senior Member Join Date: Apr 12, 2002 Posts: 2,135	Telling It The Way It Is I have no idea that Bud ever professed hatred of the show, but let's assume so, I have no doubt that he (if he did) trashed the show in order to get in good with the extremist anti-America crowd in Hollywood whose motto is "Hate America at all times and Blame America First for anything possible". This crowd of Hollywood commies I'm sure would have thought of Bud as the son of Mr. America and a wonderful example of all that's great about America back when America was really great all thru the Reagan years until George Bush Sr. and all the rest of the establishment politicians came along up until the 2nd Greatest President (after Ronald Reagan) came along, Donald Trump. Yes, I'm sure left wing commies of Tinsel Town thought of Bud as a prime target for today's lib blacklisting against any star who loves this country and refuses to mouthe the words of their hatred of the greatness of America.
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09-13-2017, 05:36 PM	#2
stevea 22 Years On Sitcoms Moderator Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 13, 2003 Location: Indy Posts: 44,494	It's typical of some child stars. Gary Coleman, Susan Dey, and Kim Fields come to mind as child actors who shunned their former shows to one degree or another. It must be difficult for a child to be an actor. The profession would be a full-time job for an adult actor, but a child must also go to school, learn lines, rehearse, sit in on staff meetings, and who knows what.

09-13-2017, 06:42 PM	#4
stevea 22 Years On Sitcoms Moderator Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 13, 2003 Location: Indy Posts: 44,494	He has panned the show itself. He needs to realize that its assumptions were a reflection of its times. You could sit there and pick apart all older shows, even Lucy.

09-13-2017, 07:50 PM	#5
CanICallYouDad Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Sep 12, 2013 Location: Meeechigan Posts: 233	He would like work even at his age so if he says all the right things maybe someone will hire him. That's Bud without his Dad. And you are right stevea the show reflected the times and there is no harm in that.

09-28-2017, 01:46 PM	#6
stevea 22 Years On Sitcoms Moderator Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 13, 2003 Location: Indy Posts: 44,494	I agree about saying the right things. In Hollywood, you must go along with the group mentality, or suffer the consequences. You have to be very high up on the ladder to buck the crowd.

07-24-2018, 03:10 PM	#8
PhoenixAcres Member Moderator Forum Veteran Join Date: Jul 26, 2016 Location: United States Posts: 6,824	He seems to have mellowed on this a bit. In May 2018 he did an interview and had some positive things to say about the show and the people he worked with. http://boomertown.libsyn.com/father-...vies-from-1954 The FKB stuff starts around minute 20:11. He lays out the genesis of the series and why the original title had a question mark. It's a good behind the scenes talk. There's also a 1988 interview with Jane Wyatt.

07-25-2018, 12:39 PM	#9
gidgetgrape Forever Gidget Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Sep 20, 2003 Location: Texas Posts: 3,503	Two or three years ago, Billy attended a fan convention with Elinor Donahue and Lauren Chapin so I think he has at least made peace with it. I've forgotten the name of the convention, but I read that they were selling photos of all three together.

12-25-2018, 12:53 PM	#10
OH Nuts! Member Forum King Join Date: Feb 15, 2005 Posts: 133,383	I think he should get over himself. There are so many actors who’d give their right arm to be in a successful sitcom; I have NO PATIENCE for his whining.

02-23-2019, 04:48 PM	#11
dee2364 Member Forum Regular Join Date: Feb 20, 2019 Posts: 643	It became fashionable to hate on FKB so I'm guessing he bashed the show to disassociate himself from it.