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counrfk · 07-24-2017, 01:51 PM

I can see maybe Julie dropping out of college, but they should have had Barbara get a degree. All of Ann's hard work and preaching about being independent and finding yourself before marriage, and both Julie and Barbara drop out of college and marry young. I'm not saying don't get married, but do they have to do it at 19?? Ed wanted Barbara to study business administration. Why couldn't she study, graduate, and maybe work at Ed's company? She would only be 22. Plenty of time for marriage.

Anna Karenina · 07-24-2017, 02:19 PM

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I can see maybe Julie dropping out of college, but they should have had Barbara get a degree. All of Ann's hard work and preaching about being independent and finding yourself before marriage, and both Julie and Barbara drop out of college and marry young. I'm not saying don't get married, but do they have to do it at 19?? Ed wanted Barbara to study business administration. Why couldn't she study, graduate, and maybe work at Ed's company? She would only be 22. Plenty of time for marriage.

I think Ann brought up how young she was when she had her second midlife crisis episode too.

Why the rush to marry? Or to try and adopt for that matter? Barbara had a job and college and tried to fit little Jessie into her already overly busy world.

Svenfan1234 · 07-24-2017, 03:58 PM

I always thought Barbara and Ann's marriages (even Julie's) were a bit rushed and forced. That's how it felt to me. Ann just got abruptly married again after knowing Sam for a little while.

Anna Karenina · 07-24-2017, 04:17 PM

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I always thought Barbara and Ann's marriages (even Julie's) were a bit rushed and forced. That's how it felt to me. Ann just got abruptly married again after knowing Sam for a little while.

I guess the horse thing just made her get carried away.

Svenfan1234 · 07-24-2017, 04:24 PM

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I guess the horse thing just made her get carried away.

I just think that it's odd that they all got married so quickly!

It would've made a more interesting story arc to me if we spent more time during the engagement and Barbara going to college to add tension, and then a 2-parter about her graduation and Mark being proud of her and then marriage? No wonder Ann had that heart attack! Julie gets married to her best man, and then Ann accidentally ripped TuTu Bear's arm off!

Anna Karenina · 07-24-2017, 04:37 PM

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I just think that it's odd that they all got married so quickly!

It would've made a more interesting story arc to me if we spent more time during the engagement and Barbara going to college to add tension, and then a 2-parter about her graduation and Mark being proud of her and then marriage? No wonder Ann had that heart attack! Julie gets married to her best man, and then Ann accidentally ripped TuTu Bear's arm off!

Poor Ann.

Too much MAMA DRAMA!!!

Alex Cooper · 07-24-2017, 07:33 PM

I agree. It's unlikely both girls would have gotten married young, especially given their mother's example. But show wise, it did add new plot angles, which is likely why the girls both got hitched. Still, they could have had them continue and complete their educations.
Maude was kinda the same situation. Maude has an eight year old grandson whilst still in her child bearing years? Possible, but not probable.

counrfk · 07-24-2017, 08:18 PM

I wish that at least Barbara had finished her education. They could have had some good storylines with her at college and maybe going to work with Ed and maybe moving back to Logansport.

Alex Cooper · 07-24-2017, 08:21 PM

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I wish that at least Barbara had finished her education. They could have had some good storylines with her at college and maybe going to work with Ed and maybe moving back to Logansport.

I concur! I'm not sure if Babs would have been a college senior in season 9, but her graduation would have made for a nice series finale (as well as possible spin-off)!

counrfk · 07-24-2017, 08:28 PM

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I concur! I'm not sure if Babs would have been a college senior in season 9, but her graduation would have made for a nice series finale (as well as possible spin-off)!

Yes! A great series finale and maybe a spin-off. I agree. I didn't like the direction the show took after season 4. Seasons 1-4 were the golden years, the best episodes. The show veered in the wrong direction after that.

Alex Cooper · 07-24-2017, 08:35 PM

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Yes! A great series finale and maybe a spin-off. I agree. I didn't like the direction the show took after season 4. Seasons 1-4 were the golden years, the best episodes. The show veered in the wrong direction after that.

While I liked the addition of Alex, and I know Bonniegirl definitely liked (loved? lusted?) the addition of Max, I do agree that the first four seasons were the heart of the show, what it was intended to be. Mac's addiction and removal changed the show's direction, though they did move from that in fairly realistic ways. Other shows might have brought in a Julie clone, or destroyed the show in myriad other ways. IMO, it did remain watchable....and we had Alex...and Max..

counrfk · 07-24-2017, 08:40 PM

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While I liked the addition of Alex, and I know Bonniegirl definitely liked (loved? lusted?) the addition of Max, I do agree that the first four seasons were the heart of the show, what it was intended to be. Mac's addiction and removal changed the show's direction, though they did move from that in fairly realistic ways. Other shows might have brought in a Julie clone, or destroyed the show in myriad other ways. IMO, it did remain watchable....and we had Alex...and Max..

It was halfway watchable after season 4, but it increasingly seemed like a totally different show. The original premise was gone.

Alex Cooper · 07-24-2017, 08:53 PM

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It was halfway watchable after season 4, but it increasingly seemed like a totally different show. The original premise was gone.

In retrospect, I agree! At the time, I was more cognizant when Alex came aboard; but yeah watching the reruns it was a different show by then.

Bonniegirl · 07-25-2017, 12:28 AM

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While I liked the addition of Alex, and I know Bonniegirl definitely liked (loved? lusted?) the addition of Max, I do agree that the first four seasons were the heart of the show, what it was intended to be. Mac's addiction and removal changed the show's direction, though they did move from that in fairly realistic ways. Other shows might have brought in a Julie clone, or destroyed the show in myriad other ways. IMO, it did remain watchable....and we had Alex...and Max..

I agree! Esp. about the Bonnie loving/lusting over Max part!

But realistically after Season 4 the girls were getting older and OK we already got it that Ann was a liberated divorced woman who got a good job and made a good living without a man ! And that got BORING!!!

I liked how it moved on and the girls got Husbands and the show went in a different direction but a good one IMO!

The first couple of seasons were great , the Girls young, Ann just finding herself , but it needed to move on!

And Alex Cooper is right, a lot of the way the show went was a result of Mack's addiction problems!

Bonniegirl · 07-25-2017, 01:18 AM

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I guess the horse thing just made her get carried away.

OK !! This calls for Nordy's drummer !!!

OR...................

"Love and marriage, love and marriage go together like a horse and carriage!!

07-24-2017, 01:51 PM	#1
counrfk Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jul 12, 2017 Posts: 136	Julie and Barbara not getting college degrees I can see maybe Julie dropping out of college, but they should have had Barbara get a degree. All of Ann's hard work and preaching about being independent and finding yourself before marriage, and both Julie and Barbara drop out of college and marry young. I'm not saying don't get married, but do they have to do it at 19?? Ed wanted Barbara to study business administration. Why couldn't she study, graduate, and maybe work at Ed's company? She would only be 22. Plenty of time for marriage.

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Svenfan1234 Member Forum Star Join Date: Dec 12, 2015 Posts: 11,200	I always thought Barbara and Ann's marriages (even Julie's) were a bit rushed and forced. That's how it felt to me. Ann just got abruptly married again after knowing Sam for a little while.
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Alex Cooper Member Senior Member Join Date: Feb 16, 2016 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,705	I agree. It's unlikely both girls would have gotten married young, especially given their mother's example. But show wise, it did add new plot angles, which is likely why the girls both got hitched. Still, they could have had them continue and complete their educations. Maude was kinda the same situation. Maude has an eight year old grandson whilst still in her child bearing years? Possible, but not probable.
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07-24-2017, 08:18 PM	#8
counrfk Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jul 12, 2017 Posts: 136	I wish that at least Barbara had finished her education. They could have had some good storylines with her at college and maybe going to work with Ed and maybe moving back to Logansport.