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cp2k · 07-19-2017, 07:46 PM

Just wondering if anyone out there besides myself prefers the "Colorized" First Season episodes instead of the original B&W ones? I know MeTV aired the colorized versions at least once, does anybody by any chance have those in their collection? I would love to get copies of them.

ph1l · 08-01-2017, 04:49 AM

I never thought they did a very good job so I actually prefer the B&W versions. However, if they ever release the episodes and use the process they did on Bewitched and I Dream of Jeannie I'd snap them up in an instant.

glickmam · 08-01-2017, 09:33 PM

Personally, I don't like colorization of any kind. I want any programs that were originally produced in black and white to remain black and white. If you can only enjoy programs that are colorized, well, you can't really enjoy the classics now, can you?

Hazel Anyday · 08-03-2017, 06:55 PM

I love colorization, especially the new modern version of it, it looks completely real and natural. However when Gilligan was colorized it was done when colorization was in it's infancy and anything but perfected. Suffice it to say, this early primitive effort at colorization leaves a lot to be desired. BUT, if they were to re-colorize it today using modern techniques I too would "snap it up" in a second.

I think ALL b/w movies/TV shows should be colorized, I dream of this coming true one day. And to the b/w only stuck in the mud color deniers I say open your eyes, life is in color and so should all movies and TV. If you don't like it, keep it to yourself.

glickmam · 08-03-2017, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Hazel Anyday

I love colorization, especially the new modern version of it, it looks completely real and natural. However when Gilligan was colorized it was done when colorization was in it's infancy and anything but perfected. Suffice it to say, this early primitive effort at colorization leaves a lot to be desired. BUT, if they were to re-colorize it today using modern techniques I too would "snap it up" in a second.

I think ALL b/w movies/TV shows should be colorized, I dream of this coming true one day. And to the b/w only stuck in the mud color deniers I say open your eyes, life is in color and so should all movies and TV. If you don't like it, keep it to yourself.

Are you kidding me? Classics should not be tampered with in any way just to make it more "palatable" for modern audiences. If it was originally broadcast in mono, it should not be updated to stereo. If it was originally shown in standard definition, it should not be updated to high definition. If it was originally produced in black and white, it should not be colorized!

PhoenixAcres · 08-04-2017, 03:18 PM

MeTV just loves the colorized prints they have. I don't think they even air season 1 in B/W anymore. IMO that's a terrible shame, chiefly because the color prints are ancient and atrociously made. The castaways' flesh tones look like they're awkwardly caught somewhere between the B/W and color worlds. The vegetation, as in every plant you see, is colored a nice uniform shade of dull green. This is worse than a cheap cartoon, and much, much worse than just leaving well enough alone and showing them in B/W!

Hazel Anyday · 08-04-2017, 08:12 PM

As I explained, these current colorized 1st season Gilligans were colorized when colorization was first started, in it's infancy and in no way perfected to the modern technological state that colorization is today. So there's no doubt these Gilligans should be colorized again using today's modern techniques, then what a beautiful picture

we'd have to enjoy.

Just imagine, one day seeing the Honeymooners classic 39 in beautiful living color, Dennis The Menace in COLOR, the first season of Hazel and the first 5 seasons of My 3 Sons in wonderful modern day colorization!!!!

I hope I see this become a reality, ALL TV/Movies filmed in b/w and mono NEED to be colorized and STEROFIED.

You can watch the stodgy versions if you insist,

but allow us progressive forward thinkers

the pleasure of watching our entertainment the way it should be seen and heard IN COLOR

AND STEROFIED!!!

glickmam · 08-04-2017, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by PhoenixAcres

MeTV just loves the colorized prints they have. I don't think they even air season 1 in B/W anymore. IMO that's a terrible shame, chiefly because the color prints are ancient and atrociously made. The castaways' flesh tones look like they're awkwardly caught somewhere between the B/W and color worlds. The vegetation, as in every plant you see, is colored a nice uniform shade of dull green. This is worse than a cheap cartoon, and much, much worse than just leaving well enough alone and showing them in B/W!

Thank you, PhoenixAcres. I couldn't agree more. I'm quite relieved that there are people like you who can appreciate the classics for what they are and don't need to have them "modernized" to make them more palatable to contemporary audiences. I swear, Hazel Anyday is pretty much a personification of the "Viewers are Morons" trope in that he/she can only appreciate something old if it's "refined" to look new.

PhoenixAcres · 08-05-2017, 09:38 PM

I would imagine most classic TV fans prefer shows in their original format, i.e. without colorized alterations. I was fortunate to be exposed to these old shows when I was really young so I'm able to appreciate both color and B/W shows equally.

Personally I would never be able to enjoy colorized series, no matter how good they are, because it's essentially re-directing and re-making the shows by putting in extra content that isn't native to the show. But there is a market for colorized episodes, as evidenced by a few of the posters here. My feeling is as long as the original untouched content is still available to watch I really can't complain if they colorize old series.

Hazel Anyday · 08-05-2017, 11:33 PM

I agree with "Phoenix Acres" assessment of the color quality of the 27 year old color job done on Gilligan's first season and I've already explained TWICE the reason for it's lack of quality. I don't chew my cud 3 times, re-read my every word over and over if it takes till you understand. And Glickman seems to suffer from attention deficit even more, Glick you better re-read it twice as many times as Phoenix, your elitist nose might be getting in the way of my brilliant words.

Phoenix, you're a perfect example of the know it all snob who thinks his opinion and only his opinion is the right way of thinking and anyone who dares disagrees is beneath you or as Hillary would call everyone who doesn't agree, a "deplorable".

To show how wrong you are again, as if there were any need to, I happen to be an old geezer who saw these shows back when they were first broadcast and even then I wished they were in color. I told you I am a forward thinker. If you had your stuck in the mud b/w elitist way no one would be allowed to watch an old TV show unless they watched it on a TV set made in 1954 by Philco, after all that's the way it was meant to be, right?

Now that I've shown you the error of your ways and you now can't wait for everything to be colorized, just like me, let's hear it for COLORIZATION, modern day colorization (In case you still don't get the difference between colorization from 1988 vs. new beautiful colorization of 2017). Let all cheer together for a NEW color version of Gilligan Season 1 and let's not leave out a beautiful color version of Citizen Kane either, right?, ready? All together now, Hip Hip Hooray Hip Hip Hooray COLORIZATOIN Is Here To Stay!!!

glickmam · 08-06-2017, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by PhoenixAcres

I would imagine most classic TV fans prefer shows in their original format, i.e. without colorized alterations. I was fortunate to be exposed to these old shows when I was really young so I'm able to appreciate both color and B/W shows equally.

Personally I would never be able to enjoy colorized series, no matter how good they are, because it's essentially re-directing and re-making the shows by putting in extra content that isn't native to the show. But there is a market for colorized episodes, as evidenced by a few of the posters here. My feeling is as long as the original untouched content is still available to watch I really can't complain if they colorize old series.

Yeah, that's my opinion, too. I was just afraid that with the way Hazel Anyday was talking, he/she was saying that old b&w programs should only be seen if they were colorized and stereoified.

PhoenixAcres · 08-06-2017, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by glickmam

Yeah, that's my opinion, too. I was just afraid that with the way Hazel Anyday was talking, he/she was saying that old b&w programs should only be seen if they were colorized and stereoified..

Yep, it appears that is his preference.

To Hazel Anyday: Believe it or not, I want you to be happy. You're able to get enjoyment out of colorized shows that I can't, but that's alright. As I've said, there is a market for this process and I have no problem as long as the originals are available as well. Everyone is entitled to their preference. That's why I said "personally", "IMO", etc. when I was talking about why I dislike colorization.

biffbronson · 08-08-2017, 04:44 PM

We've seen recently what can be done with I Love Lucy and The Dick Van Dyke Show, and I have no objection when colorization is processed that well. And I mean REALLY well!! Existing GI is a different story -- it pales by comparison and really should be redone if Season 1 is to be seen in color.

When film fans object, mainly they cringe at the idea of old "film noir" being colorized. I think it's a totally different realm when you imagine what could be done with lighthearted TV fare like Mister Ed, Make Room for Daddy (Rusty!!), Dennis the Menace, Bachelor Father, My Favorite Martian (early) , and so many other series.

stevea · 08-08-2017, 04:53 PM

I'd like to see Gilligan redone...I'm sure it could be greatly improved, given what they did originally. I'd like to see some other classic episodes colorized, like CBS did with Lucy. Such as the In the Soup episode of Leave It To Beaver, for example.

Hazel Anyday · 08-08-2017, 10:01 PM

Phoenix A. I owe you an apology, I got the names of who I was talking to mixed up. I meant my wrath to be addressed to Glickman, not to you Phoenix, as far as his opinion as being the only right opinion.

And yes I would love to see all b/w movies/TV shows in color, but that's a fantasy I don't hope to see come true, but wouldn't it be great. And as I've said before in these arguments, if you like these things in b/w, by all means watch them that way, I just don't like it when the b/w elitists try to stop us color lovers from seeing these shows in beautiful color.

And once again, as I've said now 3 times, the existing Gilligan colorized 1st season shows do look lousy. Why, class??? Let's see if you were listening. Yes, because they were colorized way back 30 years ago when colorization was in it's infancy and in no way improved to the standard that it is today in 2017. So, yes, Gilligan needs to be re-colorized with today's tech, but to be honest, I'd much rather see Dennis the Menace, Hazel, Gunsmoke and Honeymooners colorized first before they get to re-colorizing Gilligan. Gilligan is not one of my real favorites anyway.

07-19-2017, 07:46 PM	#1
cp2k Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Dec 22, 2004 Posts: 45	Colorized First Season Episodes? Just wondering if anyone out there besides myself prefers the "Colorized" First Season episodes instead of the original B&W ones? I know MeTV aired the colorized versions at least once, does anybody by any chance have those in their collection? I would love to get copies of them.

08-01-2017, 04:49 AM	#2
ph1l Member Senior Member Join Date: Apr 19, 2004 Posts: 1,362	I never thought they did a very good job so I actually prefer the B&W versions. However, if they ever release the episodes and use the process they did on Bewitched and I Dream of Jeannie I'd snap them up in an instant.
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08-03-2017, 06:55 PM	#4
Hazel Anyday Member Senior Member Join Date: Apr 12, 2002 Posts: 2,135	It's a Colorful World, Time to RE-Colorize Gilligan I love colorization, especially the new modern version of it, it looks completely real and natural. However when Gilligan was colorized it was done when colorization was in it's infancy and anything but perfected. Suffice it to say, this early primitive effort at colorization leaves a lot to be desired. BUT, if they were to re-colorize it today using modern techniques I too would "snap it up" in a second. I think ALL b/w movies/TV shows should be colorized, I dream of this coming true one day. And to the b/w only stuck in the mud color deniers I say open your eyes, life is in color and so should all movies and TV. If you don't like it, keep it to yourself.
	__________________ Haaazeelll!!

08-04-2017, 08:12 PM	#7
Hazel Anyday Member Senior Member Join Date: Apr 12, 2002 Posts: 2,135	Color My World As I explained, these current colorized 1st season Gilligans were colorized when colorization was first started, in it's infancy and in no way perfected to the modern technological state that colorization is today. So there's no doubt these Gilligans should be colorized again using today's modern techniques, then what a beautiful picture we'd have to enjoy. Just imagine, one day seeing the Honeymooners classic 39 in beautiful living color, Dennis The Menace in COLOR, the first season of Hazel and the first 5 seasons of My 3 Sons in wonderful modern day colorization!!!! I hope I see this become a reality, ALL TV/Movies filmed in b/w and mono NEED to be colorized and STEROFIED. You can watch the stodgy versions if you insist, but allow us progressive forward thinkers the pleasure of watching our entertainment the way it should be seen and heard IN COLOR AND STEROFIED!!!

08-05-2017, 11:33 PM	#10
Hazel Anyday Member Senior Member Join Date: Apr 12, 2002 Posts: 2,135	Colorful and Cute too I agree with "Phoenix Acres" assessment of the color quality of the 27 year old color job done on Gilligan's first season and I've already explained TWICE the reason for it's lack of quality. I don't chew my cud 3 times, re-read my every word over and over if it takes till you understand. And Glickman seems to suffer from attention deficit even more, Glick you better re-read it twice as many times as Phoenix, your elitist nose might be getting in the way of my brilliant words. Phoenix, you're a perfect example of the know it all snob who thinks his opinion and only his opinion is the right way of thinking and anyone who dares disagrees is beneath you or as Hillary would call everyone who doesn't agree, a "deplorable". To show how wrong you are again, as if there were any need to, I happen to be an old geezer who saw these shows back when they were first broadcast and even then I wished they were in color. I told you I am a forward thinker. If you had your stuck in the mud b/w elitist way no one would be allowed to watch an old TV show unless they watched it on a TV set made in 1954 by Philco, after all that's the way it was meant to be, right? Now that I've shown you the error of your ways and you now can't wait for everything to be colorized, just like me, let's hear it for COLORIZATION, modern day colorization (In case you still don't get the difference between colorization from 1988 vs. new beautiful colorization of 2017). Let all cheer together for a NEW color version of Gilligan Season 1 and let's not leave out a beautiful color version of Citizen Kane either, right?, ready? All together now, Hip Hip Hooray Hip Hip Hooray COLORIZATOIN Is Here To Stay!!!
	Last edited by Hazel Anyday; 08-05-2017 at 11:39 PM. Reason: more brilliance

08-01-2017, 09:33 PM	#3
glickmam Member Forum Regular Join Date: Mar 03, 2007 Posts: 661	Personally, I don't like colorization of any kind. I want any programs that were originally produced in black and white to remain black and white. If you can only enjoy programs that are colorized, well, you can't really enjoy the classics now, can you?

08-04-2017, 03:18 PM	#6
PhoenixAcres Member Moderator Forum Veteran Join Date: Jul 26, 2016 Location: United States Posts: 6,824	MeTV just loves the colorized prints they have. I don't think they even air season 1 in B/W anymore. IMO that's a terrible shame, chiefly because the color prints are ancient and atrociously made. The castaways' flesh tones look like they're awkwardly caught somewhere between the B/W and color worlds. The vegetation, as in every plant you see, is colored a nice uniform shade of dull green. This is worse than a cheap cartoon, and much, much worse than just leaving well enough alone and showing them in B/W!

08-05-2017, 09:38 PM	#9
PhoenixAcres Member Moderator Forum Veteran Join Date: Jul 26, 2016 Location: United States Posts: 6,824	I would imagine most classic TV fans prefer shows in their original format, i.e. without colorized alterations. I was fortunate to be exposed to these old shows when I was really young so I'm able to appreciate both color and B/W shows equally. Personally I would never be able to enjoy colorized series, no matter how good they are, because it's essentially re-directing and re-making the shows by putting in extra content that isn't native to the show. But there is a market for colorized episodes, as evidenced by a few of the posters here. My feeling is as long as the original untouched content is still available to watch I really can't complain if they colorize old series.

08-08-2017, 04:44 PM	#13
biffbronson Sentimental Fool Forum Star Join Date: Aug 22, 2009 Location: Near Notre Dame Posts: 10,502	We've seen recently what can be done with I Love Lucy and The Dick Van Dyke Show, and I have no objection when colorization is processed that well. And I mean REALLY well!! Existing GI is a different story -- it pales by comparison and really should be redone if Season 1 is to be seen in color. When film fans object, mainly they cringe at the idea of old "film noir" being colorized. I think it's a totally different realm when you imagine what could be done with lighthearted TV fare like Mister Ed, Make Room for Daddy (Rusty!!), Dennis the Menace, Bachelor Father, My Favorite Martian (early) , and so many other series.

08-08-2017, 04:53 PM	#14
stevea 22 Years On Sitcoms Moderator Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 13, 2003 Location: Indy Posts: 44,734	I'd like to see Gilligan redone...I'm sure it could be greatly improved, given what they did originally. I'd like to see some other classic episodes colorized, like CBS did with Lucy. Such as the In the Soup episode of Leave It To Beaver, for example.

08-08-2017, 10:01 PM	#15
Hazel Anyday Member Senior Member Join Date: Apr 12, 2002 Posts: 2,135	OK, here's the scoop Phoenix A. I owe you an apology, I got the names of who I was talking to mixed up. I meant my wrath to be addressed to Glickman, not to you Phoenix, as far as his opinion as being the only right opinion. And yes I would love to see all b/w movies/TV shows in color, but that's a fantasy I don't hope to see come true, but wouldn't it be great. And as I've said before in these arguments, if you like these things in b/w, by all means watch them that way, I just don't like it when the b/w elitists try to stop us color lovers from seeing these shows in beautiful color. And once again, as I've said now 3 times, the existing Gilligan colorized 1st season shows do look lousy. Why, class??? Let's see if you were listening. Yes, because they were colorized way back 30 years ago when colorization was in it's infancy and in no way improved to the standard that it is today in 2017. So, yes, Gilligan needs to be re-colorized with today's tech, but to be honest, I'd much rather see Dennis the Menace, Hazel, Gunsmoke and Honeymooners colorized first before they get to re-colorizing Gilligan. Gilligan is not one of my real favorites anyway.