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scotchnh2o · 05-09-2017, 10:29 PM

How do you feel about some classic TV networks crunching the credits at the end of a show?

PhoenixAcres · 05-09-2017, 10:37 PM

I frown upon it.

A TV episode is the entire package: opening titles, main content, and closing titles. Some networks think the latter is expendable but in reality it's necessary to close out the show and not be thrust into a different show following the last scene.

Very poor network decision, but I can see their motivations why. Which is why I give even more credit to networks like MeTV which DON'T give in to pressure.

Nordy · 05-09-2017, 10:39 PM

I'm ok with it. As long as nothing interferes with the opening credits. That's what I love.

Bonniegirl · 05-09-2017, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Nordy

I'm ok with it. As long as nothing interferes with the opening credits. That's what I love.

Yeah, me too. As long as the opening of the show isn't tampered with, I'm good !

Zoneboy · 05-09-2017, 11:58 PM

The following turns me off so much that I refuse to watch any classic channel that is guilty of any of it.

Crunched credits
Voiceovers during credits
Pop-ups during the show, after commercials or during credits to remind me what I'm watching or what's coming on next.
On-screen logos. (I don't need to be constantly reminded of what channel I'm watching).

treky · 05-10-2017, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by PhoenixAcres

I frown upon it.

A TV episode is the entire package: opening titles, main content, and closing titles. Some networks think the latter is expendable but in reality it's necessary to close out the show and not be thrust into a different show following the last scene.

Very poor network decision, but I can see their motivations why. Which is why I give even more credit to networks like MeTV which DON'T give in to pressure.

I understand why they do it, according to Antenna TV it's because the proliferation of all these "retro-channels" has caused the price of these old programs to go higher and higher so stations have to do SOMETHING to justify the cost. That also explains why they have so many commercials. I still hate it though.

and not only ME TV but also H & I doesn't do it.

bmasters9 · 05-10-2017, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Zoneboy

Pop-ups during the show, after commercials or during credits to remind me what I'm watching or what's coming on next.

Seconded, especially if you were already reminded umpteen times during a commercial break that "so-and-so show is coming next on X channel!"

BigManMike · 05-10-2017, 07:07 AM

It's been discussed here many times. That was exactly why I gradually stopped watching Antenna TV two years ago. They started a split screen crunch and only did it on a few shows at first but gradually expanded it to all the others. Then in prime time they started crunching to show a stupid promo which is totally unnecessary. I don't mind crunching as much if the music is not muted and can be heard but that is not the case with Antenna so I don't watch that channel. I don't mind voiceovers as long as the volume of the music is louder but I don't like it when the voiceover is louder then the music. I'm so glad Me, Laff, and Bounce don't crunch credits. Decades sometimes crunches them on weekdays but thankfully the music is played at full volume with no voice overs or video promos. Decades binge marathons are crunch-free which is perfect for me. The only cable channels that don't crunch seem to be FamilyNet and Fuse. Most others do so I will not watch them.

BigManMike · 05-10-2017, 07:09 AM

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Seconded, especially if you were already reminded umpteen times during a commercial break that "so-and-so show is coming next on X channel!"

I don't like that Laff and Bounce display huge banners during the show advertising a movie or some stupid drama called Saints and Sinners. Still, it hasn't turned me off of watching those channels and it's a minor thing compared to that atrocious credit crunch on Antenna TV.

stevea · 05-10-2017, 10:23 AM

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Then in prime time they started crunching to show a stupid promo which is totally unnecessary. I don't mind crunching as much if the music is not muted and can be heard but that is not the case with Antenna so I don't watch that channel. I don't mind voiceovers as long as the volume of the music is louder but I don't like it when the voiceover is louder then the music. I'm so glad Me, Laff, and Bounce don't crunch credits. Decades sometimes crunches them on weekdays but thankfully the music is played at full volume with no voice overs or video promos. Decades binge marathons are crunch-free which is perfect for me. The only cable channels that don't crunch seem to be FamilyNet and Fuse. Most others do so I will not watch them.

The Starz "crunch" isn't bad...a small blurb at the bottom, which doesn't interfere with the theme.

I agree about Antenna's promos...they are stupid...I think their thing is, we MUST interrupt. These types of crunches don't increase their ad time.

I'm hoping Sinclair revamps Tribune's policy...I liked Antenna the way it was, the first few years.

treky · 05-11-2017, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by thebigcookie

It's been discussed here many times. That was exactly why I gradually stopped watching Antenna TV two years ago. They started a split screen crunch and only did it on a few shows at first but gradually expanded it to all the others. Then in prime time they started crunching to show a stupid promo which is totally unnecessary. I don't mind crunching as much if the music is not muted and can be heard but that is not the case with Antenna so I don't watch that channel. I don't mind voiceovers as long as the volume of the music is louder but I don't like it when the voiceover is louder then the music. I'm so glad Me, Laff, and Bounce don't crunch credits. Decades sometimes crunches them on weekdays but thankfully the music is played at full volume with no voice overs or video promos. Decades binge marathons are crunch-free which is perfect for me. The only cable channels that don't crunch seem to be FamilyNet and Fuse. Most others do so I will not watch them.

H & I doesn't do it either.

Babalu · 05-14-2017, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Zoneboy

The following turns me off so much that I refuse to watch any classic channel that is guilty of any of it.

Crunched credits
Voiceovers during credits
Pop-ups during the show, after commercials or during credits to remind me what I'm watching or what's coming on next.
On-screen logos. (I don't need to be constantly reminded of what channel I'm watching).

That's why even though I come here to talk about the old shows, I rarely watch them on TV anymore. I turn off any station that has popups. If TV stations claim popups aren't distracting, let then try it during commercials and see how the advertisers like it.

Schmoopie · 05-14-2017, 03:26 AM

I hate it when any station does that. I agree that it's good if they don't do that in the beginning, because the opening credits are what people remember, but I think it's completely insane that so many stations are doing this just to save a few seconds.

LUNCH · 05-28-2017, 02:34 PM

I don't like it.It's almost as bad as when they cut out parts of the show.What even makes these things more ridiculous especially when it comes to cable channels is they are cutting out parts of shows that originally aired on free TV,the big networks.

LUNCH · 05-28-2017, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Babalu

If TV stations claim popups aren't distracting, let then try it during commercials and see how the advertisers like it.

Exactly.There are a couple of exceptions but basically American TV channels have become just one big commercial.

05-09-2017, 10:29 PM	#1
scotchnh2o Member Frequent Poster Join Date: May 11, 2016 Posts: 126	I don't think that is has been discussed here... How do you feel about some classic TV networks crunching the credits at the end of a show?

05-09-2017, 10:39 PM	#3
Nordy Gilmore Guy and Proud of it!! Senior Member Join Date: Nov 14, 2012 Location: Rockford, IL Posts: 2,590	I'm ok with it. As long as nothing interferes with the opening credits. That's what I love.
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05-09-2017, 11:58 PM	#5
Zoneboy RIP, I'LL NEVER FORGET YOU :( Moderator Forum Superstar Join Date: Jul 13, 2003 Location: AT HOME WISHING ALL THIS WAS JUST A DREAM AND THAT I'LL WAKE UP FROM THIS NIGHTMARE. Posts: 34,471	The following turns me off so much that I refuse to watch any classic channel that is guilty of any of it. Crunched credits Voiceovers during credits Pop-ups during the show, after commercials or during credits to remind me what I'm watching or what's coming on next. On-screen logos. (I don't need to be constantly reminded of what channel I'm watching).
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05-09-2017, 10:37 PM	#2
PhoenixAcres Member Moderator Forum Veteran Join Date: Jul 26, 2016 Location: United States Posts: 6,826	I frown upon it. A TV episode is the entire package: opening titles, main content, and closing titles. Some networks think the latter is expendable but in reality it's necessary to close out the show and not be thrust into a different show following the last scene. Very poor network decision, but I can see their motivations why. Which is why I give even more credit to networks like MeTV which DON'T give in to pressure.

05-10-2017, 07:07 AM	#8
BigManMike Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: May 25, 2006 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 3,022	It's been discussed here many times. That was exactly why I gradually stopped watching Antenna TV two years ago. They started a split screen crunch and only did it on a few shows at first but gradually expanded it to all the others. Then in prime time they started crunching to show a stupid promo which is totally unnecessary. I don't mind crunching as much if the music is not muted and can be heard but that is not the case with Antenna so I don't watch that channel. I don't mind voiceovers as long as the volume of the music is louder but I don't like it when the voiceover is louder then the music. I'm so glad Me, Laff, and Bounce don't crunch credits. Decades sometimes crunches them on weekdays but thankfully the music is played at full volume with no voice overs or video promos. Decades binge marathons are crunch-free which is perfect for me. The only cable channels that don't crunch seem to be FamilyNet and Fuse. Most others do so I will not watch them.

05-14-2017, 03:26 AM	#13
Schmoopie Keep Calm and Love Snoopy Forum Star Join Date: Jul 13, 2008 Location: Lynnwood, Washington Posts: 15,697	I hate it when any station does that. I agree that it's good if they don't do that in the beginning, because the opening credits are what people remember, but I think it's completely insane that so many stations are doing this just to save a few seconds.

05-28-2017, 02:34 PM	#14
LUNCH Member Senior Member Join Date: Oct 23, 2010 Location: New York State Posts: 1,304	I don't like it.It's almost as bad as when they cut out parts of the show.What even makes these things more ridiculous especially when it comes to cable channels is they are cutting out parts of shows that originally aired on free TV,the big networks.