Episodes missing from streaming on Amazon Prime

[JannTosh]

thought it would be good to have a list. Don't know all of them but here are the ones I know for sure.


-Gulf Breeze UFO
-The Face on Mars
-Tallman's Ghost (The Haunted Bunk Bed)
-Mike Reimer/Diana Robertson
-The Orange Sock Murders (Farina version only)
- Sherri Eyerly
-Mark Groezinger (Farina version only)
-Joe Owens
-Steve Hadley
-David Harry Fisher
-Baskin Children
-Tara Calico
-KROQ Confession
-Tommy Gibson
-Tony Alamo
-Dale Hyde
-Sacramento Thrill Killer
-Charles Warren Boomer
-Emma Figueroa/Spanish Lotto
- Freedom 2/Bob Dozier/John Russell
- Jeffrey MacDonald (available on the Farina version only)
-Luis Diaz/The Bird Road Rapist (Farina version only)

now the real question why these episodes are missing. It can't be statute of limitations since some of these are no applicable to that. It can't be because they were solved because plenty of solved cases have made it (Jim Burnside, Cheryl Holland). So I am guessing people involved in these segments don't want them available for streaming for whatever reason.

[mtaylor72]

KROQ Confession

As for why these segments are missing, I don't quite buy "the people didn't want them released" theory. Certainly these people must have signed releases way back when these segments were produced. A contract is a contract.

I don't see this happening with the Forensic Files series. I might contact Paul Dowling and ask him about his experience with this.

[asmitty]

Originally Posted by mtaylor72

As for why these segments are missing, I don't quite buy "the people didn't want them released" theory. Certainly these people must have signed releases way back when these segments were produced. A contract is a contract.

Not necessarily. The contracts drawn up back when these segments were originally produced almost certainly did not factor streaming video into the equation. As an example, one of the core issues at the heart of the 2007-08 WGA Strike was writers' compensation for digital video delivery both in terms of digital video sales and online streaming. While the people involved in UM segments are not writers needing compensation, their contracts most likely had language that specified syndication and home video release, but the contracts likely did not make any mention of the newer digital delivery methods.

Beyond that, just because these people signed release contracts back when the segments were produced, doesn't mean that Cosgrove-Meurer needs to play hardball and air segments against the wishes of the people involved in the case. It's very possible that, even with a valid release in place, CM is gracious enough to hold back segments if those involved do not wish for it to continue to air.

[MissFit29]

Add the Gagnon/Bourgeois (sp?) segment - escaped prisoners that were shown on the Alcatraz episode

[MissFit29]

And the Countess! That actress was one of my favorites - so over the top.

[DazzlerSparkler]

Originally Posted by MissFit29

And the Countess! That actress was one of my favorites - so over the top.

She reminded me of a mixture of Doris Roberts/Teri Garr.

"Nothing to negotiate. Get in dah kahhhhh. GET IN DAH KAAAAH!"

[tarheelslim]

Originally Posted by asmitty

Beyond that, just because these people signed release contracts back when the segments were produced, doesn't mean that Cosgrove-Meurer needs to play hardball and air segments against the wishes of the people involved in the case. It's very possible that, even with a valid release in place, CM is gracious enough to hold back segments if those involved do not wish for it to continue to air.

Exactly. I'll bet that when they had a policy of pulling segments if victims/family members/law enforcement asked because those are the people that it's supposed to be for, and they probably wanted to have a good reputation among those groups to keep doing the stories that they wanted to do.

[tarheelslim]

Originally Posted by JannTosh

thought it would be good to have a list. Don't know all of them but here are the ones I know for sure.

-The Face on Mars

This should be pulled. It was a hoax put out by NASA to boost the public's interest in the space program. (And when I say it's a hoax I mean the photo is real but there were hundreds before and after that showed the same area from different angles and it only resembled a "face" when the shadows were falling in one specific way - it was not "carved" like that.)

-Baskin Children

This was pulled for obvious reasons.

-Tara Calico

This may have been pulled because it dwells on the polaroid which is unrelated to TC.

-KROQ Confession

They may have pulled this because who wants to give these guys any more attention (good or bad clearly they just want attention).

[asmitty]

Originally Posted by tarheelslim

They may have pulled this because who wants to give these guys any more attention (good or bad clearly they just want attention).

I see your point, but I'd argue it's more likely that Kevin and Bean didn't want this air anymore as it draws attention to a despicable prank they committed a long time ago. It's to their benefit that it is no longer available.

[mtaylor72]

Gary and Terry Magno - this was also never made into a Farina version. Lifetime used to show it often back in the early 2000s.

I don't see the Robert Corrado case uploaded. Should have been season 2, episode 6. They did make this into a Farina version.

Was the Bonnie Wilder case uploaded? Should have been in season 2. I don't recall seeing it.

[NCRavensFan86]

No on Bonnie Wilder. Reason why, the Statute of Limitations ran out before police could find her and arrest her. Also, the Insurance Company of the store Bonnie robbed from requested that UM stop airing the case.

[DazzlerSparkler]

Originally Posted by NCRavensFan86

No on Bonnie Wilder. Reason why, the Statute of Limitations ran out before police could find her and arrest her. Also, the Insurance Company of the store Bonnie robbed from requested that UM stop airing the case.

Did they really? They must think it makes the office look bad. Lisa Penz prob involved

[kolson82]

Originally Posted by asmitty

I see your point, but I'd argue it's more likely that Kevin and Bean didn't want this air anymore as it draws attention to a despicable prank they committed a long time ago. It's to their benefit that it is no longer available.

I think you overestimate how much idiot radio personalities like those two care about how bad something might make them look. People like those two truly believe in the idea that, "there's no such thing as bad press."

[JannTosh]

Another segment that won't be included is the Sherri Eyerly segment and it is for "legal reasons"

[dynoguy88]

Originally Posted by kolson82

I think you overestimate how much idiot radio personalities like those two care about how bad something might make them look. People like those two truly believe in the idea that, "there's no such thing as bad press."

Indeed. I think Kevin and Bean owe their careers today to this stunt. Their radio program went on to become a major success in the aftermath. Jimmy Kimmel started his career working for them on their radio program. They have never shown any remorse in what they did because they know they wouldn't be where they are today if they didn't do this.