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Scrabjan1 · 04-05-2017, 04:34 PM

I saw this today when Beaver has an old friend from the old neighborhood on the weekend and finds out you can't have the same fun like in the old days. Wouldn't it have been so interesting if they brought back Larry Mondello instead of this Jackie Waters. They could have showed them trying to play with army men and marbles and not enjoying it. Maybe Larry had matured and never suggested they smoke a pipe or play with Ward's drill. They could have reminisced and had a great time. However the whole idea was how friends grow apart.

The funniest part was when Ward is thinking what he can do to entertain the boys on a Sunday afternoon and finds out that Jackie has already called his parents to come get him. Ward was planning to take them to see Planet of Doom, Vampire Valley and Kongorilla. Ward is casually dressed then when it's time to eat on Sunday night he's in a suit and tie!! Why??

stevea · 04-05-2017, 04:58 PM

I had the same thought while I watching that episode. Who ever heard of Jackie Waters?

I thought it was strange the kid couldn't even hit the dart board. One of the better lines was Beaver: "Most of my friends got teeth." (Wally asked him if Jackie was the kid with the teeth.)

Torgo · 04-05-2017, 05:39 PM

It would've been neat if Larry came back for that. But going by what Barbara Billingsley said in an interview, Rusty's real life mom and the show's producers weren't getting along, it was just never going to happen.

stevea · 04-05-2017, 07:37 PM

If Rory Stevens (Chuckie) is Rusty's brother, she surely would've been around for those episodes (maybe they bound and gagged her.) Beaver was to babysit for Chuckie on a fifth season episode, but I don't remember if he actually appeared (I don't think so). But of course he was on Chuckie's New Shoes.

Torgo · 04-05-2017, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by stevea

If Rory Stevens (Chuckie) is Rusty's brother, she surely would've been around for those episodes (maybe they bound and gagged her.) Beaver was to babysit for Chuckie on a fifth season episode, but I don't remember if he actually appeared (I don't think so). But of course he was on Chuckie's New Shoes.

As far as I know they aren't related.

And yes, Chuckie was in the babysitting episode.

Scrabjan1 · 04-06-2017, 03:55 PM

They are related Rusty and Rory are brothers. So if Rory can be in Chuckie's Shoes, Beaver's Frogs and the one when Beaver babysits why not bring back Rusty for that episode Beaver's Old Buddy. He was still getting gigs on The Rifleman and such so bring him back to LITB. I would love to have known the whole story about Rusty's mother. Jay North had a horrid aunt and uncle and the produces let him go on for 4 years. I know they only abused Jay not the producers.

Torgo · 04-06-2017, 04:00 PM

So they are brothers, weird it's not listed anywhere, at least that I've seen. Strange one stayed on for a few more eps, but not the other.
You would have thought if it was because of the mom, then she would have pulled them both off. And if it was because Rusty moved, he wouldn't have done more appearances on other shows.
Sounds like there's more to this than we'll ever know.

stevea · 04-06-2017, 04:06 PM

I kind of thought they were brothers, since there appears to be a resemblance. But there really isn't anything out there on the web about it, other than that Rory had a lot of roles (on LITB he was also the little boy who wanted ice cream when Wally was selling Igloo bars).

MichaelMartinD · 04-07-2017, 09:51 AM

Re Ward's attire: Ward was dressed casually to go to the movies, but on Sunday he was still in his "Sunday best" from church.

Torgo · 04-07-2017, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by stevea

I kind of thought they were brothers, since there appears to be a resemblance. But there really isn't anything out there on the web about it, other than that Rory had a lot of roles (on LITB he was also the little boy who wanted ice cream when Wally was selling Igloo bars).

Oh yeah that was him in the Igloo episode. "Mister! Hey, mister!"

Scrabjan1 · 04-08-2017, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by MichaelMartinD

Re Ward's attire: Ward was dressed casually to go to the movies, but on Sunday he was still in his "Sunday best" from church.

It was Sunday afternoon I'm talking about. They have already gotten through Saturday and it's after church. Ward is in a shirt and cardigan discussing how to entertain the boys. They play darts then decides to take them to the movies but Jackie has already called parents. He is still in his sweater when his parents pick him up. Later June is setting a lovely table Sunday night and Ward is now in a suit and tie!! Weird!! Ward used to sit at the dinner table in rolled up sleeves in the early seasons later he was too formal and unnatural.

stevea · 04-08-2017, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Scrabjan1

It was Sunday afternoon I'm talking about. They have already gotten through Saturday and it's after church. Ward is in a shirt and cardigan discussing how to entertain the boys. They play darts then decides to take them to the movies but Jackie has already called parents. He is still in his sweater when his parents pick him up. Later June is setting a lovely table Sunday night and Ward is now in a suit and tie!! Weird!! Ward used to sit at the dinner table in rolled up sleeves in the early seasons later he was too formal and unnatural.

Well! it was Sunday...we must dress formally for Sunday dinner! (In reality this was probably just another filmed-at-another-time mistake.)

In another dress-up event, it was LOL for me when Eddie interrupted June's vacuuming (he had to inform her he had a job)...and she had her pearls on, of course! I think this was the counting fish episode.

Scrabjan1 · 04-09-2017, 12:13 PM

And those high heels....but it seemed all women wore high heels around the house except Lucy she wore slippers or a comfortable shoe.

stevea · 04-18-2017, 08:41 AM

Finally found this thread with the discussion about the Stevenses. Today on the lawn mowing episode the man who chased Beaver and Gilbert off his lawn was played by Willam Stevens. Wonder if he is Rory's and Rusty's father. This could explain why Rory was on several season 4 episodes--if he is--maybe Rusty and the troublesome mother moved east, while Rory and his dad stayed in Hollywood for awhile.

Scrabjan1 · 04-18-2017, 08:58 PM

Good theory. I noticed his name too but could find very little on the actor. It is a very common name. Rusty was born in 1948 in Boston and it seems William was already in CA. So who knows!!

04-05-2017, 04:34 PM	#1
Scrabjan1 Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 27, 2013 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 3,521	Beaver's Old Buddy I saw this today when Beaver has an old friend from the old neighborhood on the weekend and finds out you can't have the same fun like in the old days. Wouldn't it have been so interesting if they brought back Larry Mondello instead of this Jackie Waters. They could have showed them trying to play with army men and marbles and not enjoying it. Maybe Larry had matured and never suggested they smoke a pipe or play with Ward's drill. They could have reminisced and had a great time. However the whole idea was how friends grow apart. The funniest part was when Ward is thinking what he can do to entertain the boys on a Sunday afternoon and finds out that Jackie has already called his parents to come get him. Ward was planning to take them to see Planet of Doom, Vampire Valley and Kongorilla. Ward is casually dressed then when it's time to eat on Sunday night he's in a suit and tie!! Why??

04-05-2017, 05:39 PM	#3
Torgo Omaha & Fritz Forum Star Join Date: Mar 06, 2004 Location: Oregon Posts: 19,038	It would've been neat if Larry came back for that. But going by what Barbara Billingsley said in an interview, Rusty's real life mom and the show's producers weren't getting along, it was just never going to happen.
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04-05-2017, 04:58 PM	#2
stevea 22 Years On Sitcoms Moderator Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 13, 2003 Location: Indy Posts: 44,900	I had the same thought while I watching that episode. Who ever heard of Jackie Waters? I thought it was strange the kid couldn't even hit the dart board. One of the better lines was Beaver: "Most of my friends got teeth." (Wally asked him if Jackie was the kid with the teeth.)

04-05-2017, 07:37 PM	#4
stevea 22 Years On Sitcoms Moderator Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 13, 2003 Location: Indy Posts: 44,900	If Rory Stevens (Chuckie) is Rusty's brother, she surely would've been around for those episodes (maybe they bound and gagged her.) Beaver was to babysit for Chuckie on a fifth season episode, but I don't remember if he actually appeared (I don't think so). But of course he was on Chuckie's New Shoes.

04-06-2017, 03:55 PM	#6
Scrabjan1 Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 27, 2013 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 3,521	They are related Rusty and Rory are brothers. So if Rory can be in Chuckie's Shoes, Beaver's Frogs and the one when Beaver babysits why not bring back Rusty for that episode Beaver's Old Buddy. He was still getting gigs on The Rifleman and such so bring him back to LITB. I would love to have known the whole story about Rusty's mother. Jay North had a horrid aunt and uncle and the produces let him go on for 4 years. I know they only abused Jay not the producers.

04-06-2017, 04:00 PM	#7
Torgo Omaha & Fritz Forum Star Join Date: Mar 06, 2004 Location: Oregon Posts: 19,038	So they are brothers, weird it's not listed anywhere, at least that I've seen. Strange one stayed on for a few more eps, but not the other. You would have thought if it was because of the mom, then she would have pulled them both off. And if it was because Rusty moved, he wouldn't have done more appearances on other shows. Sounds like there's more to this than we'll ever know.

04-06-2017, 04:06 PM	#8
stevea 22 Years On Sitcoms Moderator Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 13, 2003 Location: Indy Posts: 44,900	I kind of thought they were brothers, since there appears to be a resemblance. But there really isn't anything out there on the web about it, other than that Rory had a lot of roles (on LITB he was also the little boy who wanted ice cream when Wally was selling Igloo bars).

04-07-2017, 09:51 AM	#9
MichaelMartinD Member Forum Regular Join Date: Dec 23, 2013 Posts: 576	Re Ward's attire: Ward was dressed casually to go to the movies, but on Sunday he was still in his "Sunday best" from church.

04-09-2017, 12:13 PM	#13
Scrabjan1 Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 27, 2013 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 3,521	And those high heels....but it seemed all women wore high heels around the house except Lucy she wore slippers or a comfortable shoe.

04-18-2017, 08:41 AM	#14
stevea 22 Years On Sitcoms Moderator Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 13, 2003 Location: Indy Posts: 44,900	Finally found this thread with the discussion about the Stevenses. Today on the lawn mowing episode the man who chased Beaver and Gilbert off his lawn was played by Willam Stevens. Wonder if he is Rory's and Rusty's father. This could explain why Rory was on several season 4 episodes--if he is--maybe Rusty and the troublesome mother moved east, while Rory and his dad stayed in Hollywood for awhile.

04-18-2017, 08:58 PM	#15
Scrabjan1 Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 27, 2013 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 3,521	Good theory. I noticed his name too but could find very little on the actor. It is a very common name. Rusty was born in 1948 in Boston and it seems William was already in CA. So who knows!!