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stevea · 03-31-2017, 07:20 PM

Chuckie just HAD to have those shoes NOW (even though he already is in shoes)!

Another thing wrong...age of parent.

Marjorie Reynolds played Mrs. Murdock--and she's around 42 or 43 at the time. Not unheard of, but she's a little old to have a kid that age.

A couple of other examples of this:

In another episode or two, Jean Vander Pyl plays Benji's mother, and she's around the same age. Benji looks to be around Chuckie's age.

In 1959 Madge Blake (Mrs. Mondello) was 60. When Larry was born she would have been in her early 50s. This is the biggest stretch.

Tankeryanker · 03-31-2017, 09:10 PM

What a dummy I am.

Here I thought Benji grew up to be Chuckie. Never noticed they were two different boys.

Learn something new everyday.

Bonniegirl · 03-31-2017, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Tankeryanker

What a dummy I am.

Here I thought Benji grew up to be Chuckie. Never noticed they were two different boys.

Learn something new everyday.

Yeah , the two little blonde boys are very similar!

I knew they were two different boys , but I get the two mixed up a lot as to which episodes the one or the other is in!!

stevea · 03-31-2017, 09:35 PM

The one who played Chuckie is Rory Stevens. I would imagine he's Rusty Stevens' brother. I forget who played Benji.

stevea · 03-31-2017, 09:43 PM

The 2 Benji episodes I remember are the green paint Benji, at the first house. Then there was the episode where Larry turned Beaver into a rock, and Benji believed it--but Beaver went to Aunt Martha's, and Benji wouldn't believe Beaver wasn't a rock. That was at the 2nd house. I guess Benji and his mom moved at the same time as the Cleavers.

Scrabjan1 · 04-01-2017, 11:55 AM

Actually Benji's mother was Ann Doran in Beaver the Magician. She played James Dean's mom in Rebel. She really seemed old to have a little boy like Benji. His mother in Garage Painters was young. The funniest dialogue is when Larry says he has a baby brother (Beaver and Henry) and his mother was probably 60 at the time. I am glad however that they used Madge Blake as Larry's mother she was fabulous.

stevea · 04-01-2017, 05:44 PM

Yeah, I had to cheat and look up who played her in The Garage Painters. That was someone named Sara Anderson. The last name was Bellamy, and Benji was played by someone named Joey Scott. As I recall he got some pretty big billing in the closing credits, for some reason.

As to Jean Vander Pyl, I'm now thinking (without looking it up) that she might have played two roles...maybe she was the lady whose house everyone went to in June's Birthday (and Beaver discovered June had not worn his present). She also might have been the lady in another episode who said to June (who was with Miss Landers at the school), "Oh, that's right, you have the husband who can't do anything." Can't place the episode but I think it was on MeTV recently.

Scrabjan1 · 04-01-2017, 06:26 PM

Yes Vander Pyl played that rude lady in the beginning of Beaver and Kenneth, the kid who stole things. Vander Pyl also played Penny's mother in the episode when Beaver needed her baby buggy wheels. I forget the title. A big surprise was when she was incognito and played Alma's overbearing mother in Wally and Alma.

Scrabjan1 · 04-01-2017, 06:35 PM

I thought Chuckie's Shoes was the worst episode. Seeing that obnoxious woman coming to the house to say how upset she was about Beaver and how disappointed she was in Wally. She appears at the Cleaver door and expects a family member to take her kid to get shoes so she can go to the airport. Totally ridiculous writing. She had no right to force Wally to do that then just leaves. Later she believes her little boy that Beaver is lost and both start crying. Wally is a scapegoat and really thinks he did something wrong. Awful episode.

tdr · 04-01-2017, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Scrabjan1

Yes Vander Pyl played that rude lady in the beginning of Beaver and Kenneth, the kid who stole things. Vander Pyl also played Penny's mother in the episode when Beaver needed her baby buggy wheels. I forget the title. A big surprise was when she was incognito and played Alma's overbearing mother in Wally and Alma.

Plus, she played Penny Woods' mother in "Farewell to Penny" after "Beaver's Doll Buggy." She is probably most notable as a voice actor for Hanna-Barbera, as
Wilma Flintstone, Rosie the Robot (The Jetsons), and so many "various voices."

And I agree about "Chuckie's New Shoes" being a poor plot for LITB's normal writing, and I also think the actress who played Mrs. Murdock did a lousy job. Maybe it was such a lousy role she couldn't do it otherwise... but her crying and carrying on was less convincing than anything the kid playing Chuckie did.

stevea · 04-01-2017, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Scrabjan1

Yes Vander Pyl played that rude lady in the beginning of Beaver and Kenneth, the kid who stole things. Vander Pyl also played Penny's mother in the episode when Beaver needed her baby buggy wheels. I forget the title. A big surprise was when she was incognito and played Alma's overbearing mother in Wally and Alma.

Oh, yes, Vander Pyl did Play Penny's mother. Besides the doll buggy episode, and the uncredited role in Wally and Alma, and Beaver and Kenneth, she was also in the episode where Penny was moving away, and we find out the Beaver actually likes Penny (sorry, just saw previous post). For those who don't know (totally off topic), Vander Pyl's biggest claim to fame is in animation voices...principally, the voice of Wilma Flintstone (sorry for the repetition...too bad you can't delete posts!).

stevea · 04-01-2017, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Scrabjan1

I thought Chuckie's Shoes was the worst episode. Seeing that obnoxious woman coming to the house to say how upset she was about Beaver and how disappointed she was in Wally. She appears at the Cleaver door and expects a family member to take her kid to get shoes so she can go to the airport. Totally ridiculous writing. She had no right to force Wally to do that then just leaves. Later she believes her little boy that Beaver is lost and both start crying. Wally is a scapegoat and really thinks he did something wrong. Awful episode.

It ties 6th grader Beaver playing a bunny as worst episode.

03-31-2017, 07:20 PM	#1
stevea 22 Years On Sitcoms Moderator Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 13, 2003 Location: Indy Posts: 44,849	"Chuckie's New Shoes" - What's Wrong? Chuckie just HAD to have those shoes NOW (even though he already is in shoes)! Another thing wrong...age of parent. Marjorie Reynolds played Mrs. Murdock--and she's around 42 or 43 at the time. Not unheard of, but she's a little old to have a kid that age. A couple of other examples of this: In another episode or two, Jean Vander Pyl plays Benji's mother, and she's around the same age. Benji looks to be around Chuckie's age. In 1959 Madge Blake (Mrs. Mondello) was 60. When Larry was born she would have been in her early 50s. This is the biggest stretch.

03-31-2017, 09:10 PM	#2
Tankeryanker Do you like my monkey picture? Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 22, 2014 Posts: 3,051	What a dummy I am. Here I thought Benji grew up to be Chuckie. Never noticed they were two different boys. Learn something new everyday.

03-31-2017, 09:35 PM	#4
stevea 22 Years On Sitcoms Moderator Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 13, 2003 Location: Indy Posts: 44,849	The one who played Chuckie is Rory Stevens. I would imagine he's Rusty Stevens' brother. I forget who played Benji.

03-31-2017, 09:43 PM	#5
stevea 22 Years On Sitcoms Moderator Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 13, 2003 Location: Indy Posts: 44,849	The 2 Benji episodes I remember are the green paint Benji, at the first house. Then there was the episode where Larry turned Beaver into a rock, and Benji believed it--but Beaver went to Aunt Martha's, and Benji wouldn't believe Beaver wasn't a rock. That was at the 2nd house. I guess Benji and his mom moved at the same time as the Cleavers.

04-01-2017, 11:55 AM	#6
Scrabjan1 Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 27, 2013 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 3,521	Actually Benji's mother was Ann Doran in Beaver the Magician. She played James Dean's mom in Rebel. She really seemed old to have a little boy like Benji. His mother in Garage Painters was young. The funniest dialogue is when Larry says he has a baby brother (Beaver and Henry) and his mother was probably 60 at the time. I am glad however that they used Madge Blake as Larry's mother she was fabulous.

04-01-2017, 05:44 PM	#7
stevea 22 Years On Sitcoms Moderator Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 13, 2003 Location: Indy Posts: 44,849	Yeah, I had to cheat and look up who played her in The Garage Painters. That was someone named Sara Anderson. The last name was Bellamy, and Benji was played by someone named Joey Scott. As I recall he got some pretty big billing in the closing credits, for some reason. As to Jean Vander Pyl, I'm now thinking (without looking it up) that she might have played two roles...maybe she was the lady whose house everyone went to in June's Birthday (and Beaver discovered June had not worn his present). She also might have been the lady in another episode who said to June (who was with Miss Landers at the school), "Oh, that's right, you have the husband who can't do anything." Can't place the episode but I think it was on MeTV recently.

04-01-2017, 06:26 PM	#8
Scrabjan1 Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 27, 2013 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 3,521	Yes Vander Pyl played that rude lady in the beginning of Beaver and Kenneth, the kid who stole things. Vander Pyl also played Penny's mother in the episode when Beaver needed her baby buggy wheels. I forget the title. A big surprise was when she was incognito and played Alma's overbearing mother in Wally and Alma.

04-01-2017, 06:35 PM	#9
Scrabjan1 Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Nov 27, 2013 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 3,521	I thought Chuckie's Shoes was the worst episode. Seeing that obnoxious woman coming to the house to say how upset she was about Beaver and how disappointed she was in Wally. She appears at the Cleaver door and expects a family member to take her kid to get shoes so she can go to the airport. Totally ridiculous writing. She had no right to force Wally to do that then just leaves. Later she believes her little boy that Beaver is lost and both start crying. Wally is a scapegoat and really thinks he did something wrong. Awful episode.