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TVFactFan · 10-02-2016, 11:23 AM

The ratings for the show got worst each year it was on the air with a huge drop after season 4 to #22. Add that to the fact that out of all the sitcoms on the Sunday Night lineup, ABP had the worst ratings.

Jeffersons-#12
One Day at a Time-#16
Gloria-#18

So why was Gloria cancelled? lol That ranking was pretty good for a 1st season

MenaceTheDennis · 10-03-2016, 09:05 PM

I think CBS wanted to be rid of both shows and the Bunker era. Plus I'm sure O'Connors salary was pretty hefty in 1983 and with the show no longer pulling in the ratings it was to be expected. Still #18 and 22 are good ratings.

TVFactFan · 10-03-2016, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by MenaceTheDennis

I think CBS wanted to be rid of both shows and the Bunker era. Plus I'm sure O'Connors salary was pretty hefty in 1983 and with the show no longer pulling in the ratings it was to be expected. Still #18 and 22 are good ratings.

#22 is not really good if the show was falling in the ratings the previous 3 seasons. #22 would be good for a new show but not for a show that's been around for a while

That's why I was surprised Gloria was cancelled after finishing #18 after the first season

Babalu · 10-23-2016, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by MenaceTheDennis

I think CBS wanted to be rid of both shows and the Bunker era. Plus I'm sure O'Connors salary was pretty hefty in 1983 and with the show no longer pulling in the ratings it was to be expected. Still #18 and 22 are good ratings.

That's the real reason. Carol O'Connor not only was pulling down a huge salary but was part owner of the show and tried to bleed CBS for every penny he could.

mets82 · 10-23-2016, 11:24 AM

Say it wasn't cancelled. How long do you think it would have lasted? Seems to me, the show was long in the tooth as it was so they had to cancel it.

TVFactFan · 10-23-2016, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mets82

Say it wasn't cancelled. How long do you think it would have lasted? Seems to me, the show was long in the tooth as it was so they had to cancel it.

Yeah it was time, the Archie Bunker character had already been on the air for 13 years.

treky · 11-01-2016, 03:24 AM

I agree, I think audiences were getting tired of Archie Bunker and his bigotry, etc. I know I was.

mets82 · 11-01-2016, 01:06 PM

But didn't he mellow over the years?

howilu · 11-02-2016, 10:25 AM

When Archie bought Kelsey's Bar, he became a lot mellower since he owned his own business.

cleverfun3000 · 11-03-2016, 09:49 AM

Dianne3 · 11-05-2016, 03:36 PM

By the time ABP was cancelled, it was more the Billie show.
Every second or third episode was about her and/or her lawyer boyfriend.

The bigger question is why Murray left? And then to a lesser extent the Anne Meara character.

After Edith's death and Murray leaving, ABP was putting me too sleep.

Heenan Fan · 11-10-2016, 04:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Dianne3

By the time ABP was cancelled, it was more the Billie show.
Every second or third episode was about her and/or her lawyer boyfriend.

The bigger question is why Murray left? And then to a lesser extent the Anne Meara character.

After Edith's death and Murray leaving, ABP was putting me too sleep.

True, but the Archie character was an icon and after 13 years, he deserved to go out in a big series finale. He never got to properly say goodbye.

mets82 · 11-10-2016, 05:14 PM

That's true. He wasnt some guy on for 10 mins. Heenan Fan, may I ask, how did you pick your profile name?

TVFactFan · 11-12-2016, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by cleverfun3000

That happened in 1974/75 which is way before ABP

Dianne3 · 11-14-2016, 05:20 PM

About Archie not getting a proper goodbye, neither did Edith.
A quick death (in a season that started later) and then she was gone.

When Edith died, ABP was in it's prime and more could have/should have been done about that.

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10-02-2016, 11:23 AM	#1
TVFactFan Member Forum Junkie Join Date: Aug 17, 2002 Posts: 98,950	Now I understand why Archie Bunker's Place was cancelled The ratings for the show got worst each year it was on the air with a huge drop after season 4 to #22. Add that to the fact that out of all the sitcoms on the Sunday Night lineup, ABP had the worst ratings. Jeffersons-#12 One Day at a Time-#16 Gloria-#18 So why was Gloria cancelled? lol That ranking was pretty good for a 1st season

10-03-2016, 09:05 PM	#2
MenaceTheDennis Member Forum Hawk Join Date: Oct 03, 2016 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 4	I think CBS wanted to be rid of both shows and the Bunker era. Plus I'm sure O'Connors salary was pretty hefty in 1983 and with the show no longer pulling in the ratings it was to be expected. Still #18 and 22 are good ratings.

11-01-2016, 01:06 PM	#8
mets82 Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Mar 14, 2011 Location: Connecticut Posts: 5,058	But didn't he mellow over the years?

11-02-2016, 10:25 AM	#9
howilu Member Senior Member Join Date: Apr 20, 2003 Location: St. Louis Park, MN Posts: 1,958	When Archie bought Kelsey's Bar, he became a lot mellower since he owned his own business.

11-05-2016, 03:36 PM	#11
Dianne3 Member Senior Member Join Date: Aug 07, 2002 Posts: 1,056	By the time ABP was cancelled, it was more the Billie show. Every second or third episode was about her and/or her lawyer boyfriend. The bigger question is why Murray left? And then to a lesser extent the Anne Meara character. After Edith's death and Murray leaving, ABP was putting me too sleep.

11-10-2016, 05:14 PM	#13
mets82 Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Mar 14, 2011 Location: Connecticut Posts: 5,058	That's true. He wasnt some guy on for 10 mins. Heenan Fan, may I ask, how did you pick your profile name?

11-14-2016, 05:20 PM	#15
Dianne3 Member Senior Member Join Date: Aug 07, 2002 Posts: 1,056	About Archie not getting a proper goodbye, neither did Edith. A quick death (in a season that started later) and then she was gone. When Edith died, ABP was in it's prime and more could have/should have been done about that.