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TVFactFan · 08-10-2015, 09:46 PM

LOL this Loony Toon goes to the bank to get a loan so she can buy Archie a TV. So she was trying to get $500 and the loan officer asked her how much does she have in her 3 bank accounts combined? This dipsh*T says $78

And had a nerve to get mad when she was turned down for the loan. How did she think would lean her money and she was barely working and had very little in the bank? Then she gets mad and decided to close her 3 accounts at the bank because she was denied for the loan

Then she comes the f*CK home and ask Archie to loan her $500

So she is buying him a gift with his own money

Edith was that SPECIAL KIND OF STUPID

Rewound50 · 08-11-2015, 11:39 AM

I think you have to remember how much people were struggling back in the 70's. If you were not in the working class segment of society at that point, the 70's were very hard on middle class America. It was difficult to get any kind of loan because people were not making enough to have any kind of serious collateral in goods or property.

You also have to note Edith was from that generation that deferred to the man of the house. She was not stupid in the least. Society was still in it's infancy of recognizing women and minorities. And her conformity to those social biases played on her ability to function effectively when attempting to step outside those traditional roles. She had the means, but not the experience.

Edith was not dumb in the slightest because she was not afraid to step outside that stereotype and try to express her own individuality. Even in the face of utter failure she didn't back down from trying. Today's generation could use some Ediths in their crowd.

TVFactFan · 08-11-2015, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Rewound50

I think you have to remember how much people were struggling back in the 70's. If you were not in the working class segment of society at that point, the 70's were very hard on middle class America. It was difficult to get any kind of loan because people were not making enough to have any kind of serious collateral in goods or property.

You also have to note Edith was from that generation that deferred to the man of the house. She was not stupid in the least. Society was still in it's infancy of recognizing women and minorities. And her conformity to those social biases played on her ability to function effectively when attempting to step outside those traditional roles. She had the means, but not the experience.

Edith was not dumb in the slightest because she was not afraid to step outside that stereotype and try to express her own individuality. Even in the face of utter failure she didn't back down from trying. Today's generation could use some Ediths in their crowd.

I'm sorry but she was dumb for the reasons below

1. Trying to get a loan from the bank with very little money in her account

2. Asking Archie to lean her money so she could buy him a gift with his own money

Lol

Rewound50 · 08-11-2015, 01:15 PM

^^^ Banks don't loan you $500 because you don't already have it in other accounts. Banks allow you to borrow based on your credit score, collateral, and income. Edith did not have the experience to know this when she went into the bank. That doesn't make her dumb, that makes her inexperienced. And her asking Archie for the money was a social statement for the day and actually in current times as well. There are plenty of older couples where the spouse was/is the work-at-home parent and the other works a regular job to bring home the income. That is called marital income. They share that money together. At any rate, this story was about her attempting to step outside those circumstances and collect it by doing it herself. That is the point. You're missing the social message in that. It's about breaking stereotypes of the day.

TVFactFan · 08-11-2015, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Rewound50

^^^ Banks don't loan you $500 because you don't already have it in other accounts. Banks allow you to borrow based on your credit score, collateral, and income. Edith did not have the experience to know this when she went into the bank. That doesn't make her dumb, that makes her inexperienced. And her asking Archie for the money was a social statement for the day and actually in current times as well. There are plenty of older couples where the spouse was/is the work-at-home parent and the other works a regular job to bring home the income. That is called marital income. They share that money together. At any rate, this story was about her attempting to step outside those circumstances and collect it by doing it herself. That is the point. You're missing the social message in that. It's about breaking stereotypes of the day.

She had no income or no collateral and was too old to be that stupid

visaman666 · 08-11-2015, 10:36 PM

Credit was very difficult to get back then, and if you were a woman, forget it. Even wealthy women had to get a man to co-sign for bank loan.

TVFactFan · 08-11-2015, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by visaman666

Credit was very difficult to get back then, and if you were a woman, forget it. Even wealthy women had to get a man to co-sign for bank loan.

But when she asked Archie to lend her money to buy him a gift I was too done

Rewound50 · 08-12-2015, 10:07 AM

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She had no income or no collateral and was too old to be that stupid

She is married to Archie and has a home, hence there is collateral, assuming they have equity in the house. In those days many people were out of work and the jobs they had only offered them income to live paycheck to paycheck. If you only knew how uninformed most people are about lending institutions, you probably would never make such a statement regarding her oversight in asking for one. This is not something you figure out through the aging process. LOL! You either involve yourself with it or you have no idea. Even having done it previously doesn't make you a good judge of the offer on the table. And her asking Archie for the money is something that is clearly going over your head. You take things at face value without understanding context of the day and quite honestly how some marriages work to this day.

cleverfun3000 · 08-12-2015, 08:57 PM

She wasn't all THAT stupid. She figured out how much Archie owes her for the work she did around the house for the last 30 years at the rate of a dollar a week and instead of borrowing the $500 from him, she charged him that amount and said that he could pay her the rest ($1,500) at the rate of $5 per week.

TVFactFan · 08-12-2015, 09:00 PM

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She wasn't all THAT stupid. She figured out how much Archie owes her for the work she did around the house for the last 30 years at the rate of a dollar a week and instead of borrowing the $500 from him, she charged him that amount and said that he could pay her the rest ($1,500) at the rate of $5 per week.

He didn't owe her sh*T

TVFactFan · 08-12-2015, 09:02 PM

He should have divorced her stupid a$$ in season 5 lol

And how bout that other stupid moment?

When she bought Louise Jefferson a lottery ticket with her money and when Louise wanted to share the winnings Edith said.........NO?

cleverfun3000 · 08-12-2015, 10:38 PM

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He should have divorced her stupid a$$ in season 5 lol

Bonniegirl · 08-13-2015, 12:38 AM

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Yeah!! Thank you!! They were stuck with each other!!!

Back than people didn't get divorced that easy! Married people just stuck together. Even if the man was cheating , or the wife even. As long as it wasn't known to their family and friends. Married couples stayed together even if they HATED each other. It was either for Religious reasons or like a pride thing!

But no way would Archie ever divorce Edith, she was like his property!

TVFactFan · 08-13-2015, 06:27 AM

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Yeah!! Thank you!! They were stuck with each other!!!

Back than people didn't get divorced that easy! Married people just stuck together. Even if the man was cheating , or the wife even. As long as it wasn't known to their family and friends. Married couples stayed together even if they HATED each other. It was either for Religious reasons or like a pride thing!

But no way would Archie ever divorce Edith, she was like his property!

You may have a point because my grandparents slept in separate rooms

Lol lol lol lol

JSP · 08-13-2015, 06:58 AM

Yeah, pretty sure Archie needed Edith a whole lot more than the other way around.

08-10-2015, 09:46 PM	#1
TVFactFan Member Forum Junkie Join Date: Aug 17, 2002 Posts: 99,038	This episode confirmed that Edith Bunker was the dumbest TV Mom in Sitcom History LOL this Loony Toon goes to the bank to get a loan so she can buy Archie a TV. So she was trying to get $500 and the loan officer asked her how much does she have in her 3 bank accounts combined? This dipshT says $78 And had a nerve to get mad when she was turned down for the loan. How did she think would lean her money and she was barely working and had very little in the bank? Then she gets mad and decided to close her 3 accounts at the bank because she was denied for the loan Then she comes the fCK home and ask Archie to loan her $500 So she is buying him a gift with his own money Edith was that SPECIAL KIND OF STUPID

08-12-2015, 08:57 PM	#9
cleverfun3000 Member Senior Member Join Date: Sep 18, 2008 Location: Manhattan Posts: 1,685	She wasn't all THAT stupid. She figured out how much Archie owes her for the work she did around the house for the last 30 years at the rate of a dollar a week and instead of borrowing the $500 from him, she charged him that amount and said that he could pay her the rest ($1,500) at the rate of $5 per week.
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08-11-2015, 11:39 AM	#2
Rewound50 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Jul 28, 2015 Location: Louisville Posts: 46	I think you have to remember how much people were struggling back in the 70's. If you were not in the working class segment of society at that point, the 70's were very hard on middle class America. It was difficult to get any kind of loan because people were not making enough to have any kind of serious collateral in goods or property. You also have to note Edith was from that generation that deferred to the man of the house. She was not stupid in the least. Society was still in it's infancy of recognizing women and minorities. And her conformity to those social biases played on her ability to function effectively when attempting to step outside those traditional roles. She had the means, but not the experience. Edith was not dumb in the slightest because she was not afraid to step outside that stereotype and try to express her own individuality. Even in the face of utter failure she didn't back down from trying. Today's generation could use some Ediths in their crowd.

08-11-2015, 01:15 PM	#4
Rewound50 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Jul 28, 2015 Location: Louisville Posts: 46	^^^ Banks don't loan you $500 because you don't already have it in other accounts. Banks allow you to borrow based on your credit score, collateral, and income. Edith did not have the experience to know this when she went into the bank. That doesn't make her dumb, that makes her inexperienced. And her asking Archie for the money was a social statement for the day and actually in current times as well. There are plenty of older couples where the spouse was/is the work-at-home parent and the other works a regular job to bring home the income. That is called marital income. They share that money together. At any rate, this story was about her attempting to step outside those circumstances and collect it by doing it herself. That is the point. You're missing the social message in that. It's about breaking stereotypes of the day.

08-11-2015, 10:36 PM	#6
visaman666 Member Forum Regular Join Date: Jan 06, 2007 Posts: 818	Credit was very difficult to get back then, and if you were a woman, forget it. Even wealthy women had to get a man to co-sign for bank loan.

08-12-2015, 09:02 PM	#11
TVFactFan Member Forum Junkie Join Date: Aug 17, 2002 Posts: 99,038	He should have divorced her stupid a$$ in season 5 lol And how bout that other stupid moment? When she bought Louise Jefferson a lottery ticket with her money and when Louise wanted to share the winnings Edith said.........NO?

08-13-2015, 06:58 AM	#15
JSP Member Senior Member Join Date: Aug 19, 2003 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 2,735	Yeah, pretty sure Archie needed Edith a whole lot more than the other way around.