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TVFactFan · 01-19-2015, 07:45 PM

SAY CONGRATULATIONS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! On the PATS making the SB for the 6th time. Hoping Brady can get it done

Zoneboy · 01-19-2015, 07:47 PM

TVFactFan · 01-19-2015, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Zoneboy

Whatever reporter started that is GAY because it;s all bullsh*t. They are just MAD and it doesn't matter

Pats are in the SB

Janice · 01-20-2015, 12:31 AM

Thanks Solomon. Funny thread.

Yeah, we're crazy excited. And lol at the haters saying the Pats did something wrong. Jealousy makes people do crazy things.

TVFactFan · 01-20-2015, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Janice

Thanks Solomon. Funny thread.

Yeah, we're crazy excited. And lol at the haters saying the Pats did something wrong. Jealousy makes people do crazy things.

Yeah about the DEFLATED FOOTBALLS

treky · 01-20-2015, 02:10 AM

what are you talking about? What's PATS, SB and BRADY?

Is all this something to do with baseball or football or hockey or something???

Mr. Television · 01-20-2015, 09:59 AM

Congratulations Janice.

Family Ties Forever! · 01-20-2015, 10:23 AM

Congrats Janice.

I had no idea what the picture was about. I just heard this morning about the controversy. I don't keep up with sports. That's lousy, that people would claim the footballs were deflated. Definitely sounds like jealousy.

Nighthawk76 · 01-21-2015, 01:17 AM

Congratulations!

treky · 01-21-2015, 01:30 AM

I'm still waiting for someone to tell me what your all talking about.

TVFactFan · 01-21-2015, 01:32 AM

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Originally Posted by treky

I'm still waiting for someone to tell me what your all talking about.

Janice's team, the Patriots won on Sunday and is headed back to the Superbowl for the 6th time since 2001

treky · 01-21-2015, 01:37 AM

ok, thanx Sol; but what's all this about a deflated football?

TVFactFan · 01-21-2015, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by treky

ok, thanx Sol; but what's all this about a deflated football?

Some stupid local station in Indianapolis started this nonsense that the Pats used deflated footballs during the game

treky · 01-21-2015, 01:48 AM

thanx again! And I'm assuming that PATS is short for The New England Patriots. (see, I do know some about football-not much, but some!

)

Zoneboy · 01-21-2015, 02:50 AM

Link

Turns out, the Patriots used under-inflated footballs on Sunday night.

Now the real question: How did it happen?

According to an NFL letter about the investigation that was shared with the Globe, the Patriots were informed that the league’s initial findings indicated that the game balls did not meet specifications (inflation of 12½ to 13½ pounds). The league inspected each of the Patriots’ 12 game balls twice at halftime, using different pressure gauges, and found footballs that were not properly inflated.

According to ESPN, 11 of the 12 game balls were found to be underinflated by about 2 pounds each.

The investigation is still on-going. Now that the league has determined the footballs were under-inflated, the investigation will center on how it happened.

A league spokesman declined to comment, and earlier in the day, NFL executive vice president Troy Vincent told Pro Football Talk that the investigation would ideally be complete within two or three days.

If the Patriots are found to have deliberately doctored footballs, the organization can be fined a minimum of $25,000, and if the NFL finds the incident egregious, the Patriots could lose a draft pick. In 2007, commissioner Roger Goodell took away a 2008 first-round draft pick in the aftermath of Spygate.

The Patriots defeated the Colts, 45-7, on Sunday night to earn their eighth Super Bowl appearance in franchise history, but on Monday the NFL confirmed it was investigating the team for using under-inflated footballs.

The Colts reportedly grew suspicious after linebacker D’Qwell Jackson intercepted Tom Brady late in the second quarter. A softer football is easier to throw and catch, especially in rainy conditions, as was the case Sunday night.

According to Newsday, Jackson gave the ball to a member of the Colts’ equipment staff, who notified coach Chuck Pagano, who then relayed a message to general manager Ryan Grigson in the press box, who contacted Mike Kensil, NFL director of football operations, who then told the on-field officials at halftime.

On the first play from scrimmage after the opening kickoff of the third quarter, the officials held up the game for a minute and ultimately switched out the game ball. Former NFL official Mike Carey, working the broadcast for CBS, surmised that “It looks like they still spotted the ball for a kicking ball, waiting for one of the ball guys to come down and give them a regular ball.”

The investigation will attempt to find out if the Patriots tampered with the footballs after the referee inspection. It’s possible that cold temperatures affected the pressure of the footballs, but it was an unusually warm 51 degrees at kickoff.

At least one official touches the football on every play, yet none seemed to notice until halftime. The Patriots led, 17-7, at intermission, and outscored the Colts, 28-0, after the officials seemingly corrected the ball issue.

Per the NFL rulebook, each team provides game officials with 12 footballs before the game, and the balls are required to be inflated between 12½ and 13½ pounds per square inch. The referee inspects the game balls 2 hours and 15 minutes before kickoff, places a special marking on each ball that passes inspection, and hands the approved balls to attendants on each team, who are supposed to maintain custody of the balls on each sideline.

Each team uses its own football on offense — a 2013 New York Times article states that each team even has its own logo on the football when on offense — and teams are allowed to slightly doctor the footballs to their preference. “Rubbing up” the football with dirt to make it less slippery is common, and so is slightly adjusting the inflation levels.

Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers likes to overinflate the football. When the Packers and Patriots played on Nov. 30, CBS broadcaster Phil Simms relayed a conversation he had with Rodgers.

“He said something which was unique. ‘I like to push the limit to how much air we can put in the football, even go over what they allow you to do, and see if the officials take the air out of it,’” Simms said of Rodgers. “Because he thinks it’s easy for him to grip. He likes them tight.”

Rodgers defended the practice Tuesday on his radio show on ESPN Milwaukee.

“It’s not an advantage when you have a football that’s inflated more than average air pressure. We’re not kicking these footballs,” he said.

It’s unclear how often the NFL investigates ball issues. In another incident this season, the NFL reminded all 32 teams that they cannot warm the balls with sideline heaters during cold games, after the Panthers and Vikings did it in their Nov. 30 game in Minneapolis, drawing a warning from officials.

“If something is noticed, it’s not unheard of for a ball to be removed from circulation and then tested during the week for whatever issue there was,” head of officiating Dean Blandino said.

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01-20-2015, 02:10 AM	#6
treky star trek fan Eternal Member Forum Fanatic Join Date: Feb 25, 2002 Location: Conshohocken, pennsylvania Posts: 14,490	what are you talking about? What's PATS, SB and BRADY? Is all this something to do with baseball or football or hockey or something???
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01-20-2015, 12:31 AM	#4
Janice Retired Admin - Hollywood Swingin' Forum Legend Join Date: Aug 03, 2001 Location: Beantown Posts: 36,388	Thanks Solomon. Funny thread. Yeah, we're crazy excited. And lol at the haters saying the Pats did something wrong. Jealousy makes people do crazy things.

01-21-2015, 01:17 AM	#9
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01-21-2015, 01:30 AM	#10
treky star trek fan Eternal Member Forum Fanatic Join Date: Feb 25, 2002 Location: Conshohocken, pennsylvania Posts: 14,490	I'm still waiting for someone to tell me what your all talking about.

01-21-2015, 01:37 AM	#12
treky star trek fan Eternal Member Forum Fanatic Join Date: Feb 25, 2002 Location: Conshohocken, pennsylvania Posts: 14,490	ok, thanx Sol; but what's all this about a deflated football?

01-21-2015, 01:48 AM	#14
treky star trek fan Eternal Member Forum Fanatic Join Date: Feb 25, 2002 Location: Conshohocken, pennsylvania Posts: 14,490	thanx again! And I'm assuming that PATS is short for The New England Patriots. (see, I do know some about football-not much, but some! )

01-21-2015, 02:50 AM	#15
Zoneboy RIP, I'LL NEVER FORGET YOU :( Moderator Forum Superstar Join Date: Jul 13, 2003 Location: AT HOME WISHING ALL THIS WAS JUST A DREAM AND THAT I'LL WAKE UP FROM THIS NIGHTMARE. Posts: 34,499	NFL says Patriots used 11 under-inflated footballs Link Turns out, the Patriots used under-inflated footballs on Sunday night. Now the real question: How did it happen? According to an NFL letter about the investigation that was shared with the Globe, the Patriots were informed that the league’s initial findings indicated that the game balls did not meet specifications (inflation of 12½ to 13½ pounds). The league inspected each of the Patriots’ 12 game balls twice at halftime, using different pressure gauges, and found footballs that were not properly inflated. According to ESPN, 11 of the 12 game balls were found to be underinflated by about 2 pounds each. The investigation is still on-going. Now that the league has determined the footballs were under-inflated, the investigation will center on how it happened. A league spokesman declined to comment, and earlier in the day, NFL executive vice president Troy Vincent told Pro Football Talk that the investigation would ideally be complete within two or three days. If the Patriots are found to have deliberately doctored footballs, the organization can be fined a minimum of $25,000, and if the NFL finds the incident egregious, the Patriots could lose a draft pick. In 2007, commissioner Roger Goodell took away a 2008 first-round draft pick in the aftermath of Spygate. The Patriots defeated the Colts, 45-7, on Sunday night to earn their eighth Super Bowl appearance in franchise history, but on Monday the NFL confirmed it was investigating the team for using under-inflated footballs. The Colts reportedly grew suspicious after linebacker D’Qwell Jackson intercepted Tom Brady late in the second quarter. A softer football is easier to throw and catch, especially in rainy conditions, as was the case Sunday night. According to Newsday, Jackson gave the ball to a member of the Colts’ equipment staff, who notified coach Chuck Pagano, who then relayed a message to general manager Ryan Grigson in the press box, who contacted Mike Kensil, NFL director of football operations, who then told the on-field officials at halftime. On the first play from scrimmage after the opening kickoff of the third quarter, the officials held up the game for a minute and ultimately switched out the game ball. Former NFL official Mike Carey, working the broadcast for CBS, surmised that “It looks like they still spotted the ball for a kicking ball, waiting for one of the ball guys to come down and give them a regular ball.” The investigation will attempt to find out if the Patriots tampered with the footballs after the referee inspection. It’s possible that cold temperatures affected the pressure of the footballs, but it was an unusually warm 51 degrees at kickoff. At least one official touches the football on every play, yet none seemed to notice until halftime. The Patriots led, 17-7, at intermission, and outscored the Colts, 28-0, after the officials seemingly corrected the ball issue. Per the NFL rulebook, each team provides game officials with 12 footballs before the game, and the balls are required to be inflated between 12½ and 13½ pounds per square inch. The referee inspects the game balls 2 hours and 15 minutes before kickoff, places a special marking on each ball that passes inspection, and hands the approved balls to attendants on each team, who are supposed to maintain custody of the balls on each sideline. Each team uses its own football on offense — a 2013 New York Times article states that each team even has its own logo on the football when on offense — and teams are allowed to slightly doctor the footballs to their preference. “Rubbing up” the football with dirt to make it less slippery is common, and so is slightly adjusting the inflation levels. Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers likes to overinflate the football. When the Packers and Patriots played on Nov. 30, CBS broadcaster Phil Simms relayed a conversation he had with Rodgers. “He said something which was unique. ‘I like to push the limit to how much air we can put in the football, even go over what they allow you to do, and see if the officials take the air out of it,’” Simms said of Rodgers. “Because he thinks it’s easy for him to grip. He likes them tight.” Rodgers defended the practice Tuesday on his radio show on ESPN Milwaukee. “It’s not an advantage when you have a football that’s inflated more than average air pressure. We’re not kicking these footballs,” he said. It’s unclear how often the NFL investigates ball issues. In another incident this season, the NFL reminded all 32 teams that they cannot warm the balls with sideline heaters during cold games, after the Panthers and Vikings did it in their Nov. 30 game in Minneapolis, drawing a warning from officials. “If something is noticed, it’s not unheard of for a ball to be removed from circulation and then tested during the week for whatever issue there was,” head of officiating Dean Blandino said.