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Flying Dutchman · 12-11-2014, 10:26 PM

I should put in an apology first in case this has been asked before.

In the episode "Fist Full of Reasons" Peter is in his room with Mike Greg and Bobby, where he is feeling bad about backing down from Buddy Hinton's threat. Mike starts to talk to Peter about the benefits of reasoning instead of fighting, when Greg slams his fist into his other hand and says "If he bothers her again (Cindy) "I know how to handle him" Mike stops Greg saying "Now just a minute, Greg. This is Peters problem" It took the rest of the episode, and one black eye, for Peter to learn to fight and deal with Buddy.

But if Mike had let Greg handle it in the 1st place, do you think the teasing would have stopped allot sooner?

In one episode Greg scared the heck out of one of his friends, who wanted to start a roomer about Marcia, by telling the kid he would knock his head in. I believe Greg could have dealt with Buddy Hinton easily.

Marvo301 · 12-12-2014, 03:31 PM

The problem is that Greg is older and bigger than Buddy so he would have ended up looking like a bully. That wouldn't have solved the issue and wouldn't have met with Mike and Carol's approval. So it was necessary for Peter who was the same age and size as Buddy to be the one to confront him.

Babalu · 01-30-2015, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Marvo301

The problem is that Greg is older and bigger than Buddy so he would have ended up looking like a bully. That wouldn't have solved the issue and wouldn't have met with Mike and Carol's approval. So it was necessary for Peter who was the same age and size as Buddy to be the one to confront him.

No, when a bully picks on someone smaller the rules change. Maybe not on TV, but they do in real life. If a 10 year old picks on a 5 year old, a 15 year old has every right to step in.

Marvo301 · 01-31-2015, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Babalu

No, when a bully picks on someone smaller the rules change. Maybe not on TV, but they do in real life. If a 10 year old picks on a 5 year old, a 15 year old has every right to step in.

I wasn't talking about real life. I was talking about the Brady universe. And in the Brady universe Mike and Carol would never have approved of Greg beating up a younger smaller boy. Even if he was a bully!

Hughsgirl · 02-09-2015, 02:14 PM

I'm sorry but if Pete was too afraid (which he was) and unable to stand up for his little sister than Greg should have been the one to do so. I know Peter beat him in the end, but it took too long to give that punk a taste of his own medicine - and Greg would have knocked the daylights out of him! Even after Peter got the black eye after taking Mike's suggestion with reasoning with him than he STILL wanted him to talk to him! That was totally assanine IMO. Bullies, even back then, have no sense or compassion and must be given a dose of their medicine, otherwise they continue to bully!

Flying Dutchman · 05-14-2015, 10:19 AM

I can imagine Greg walking up to Buddy with an angry look. He grabs Buddy by the shirt, pulling Buddy toward him and looking him straight in the eye. Buddy as scared as he can be, says nothing as Greg goes on to say. "Now you listen to me Buddy! You leave my sister Cindy alone. Because if you don't? I will personally knock your head in. GET ME?" Then Greg pushes him back against the tree that Buddy likes to lean against. "Okay Greg" Buddy says back in a fearful stutter. Greg then walks away and that's it' It ended right there.

Tweety · 06-06-2015, 11:47 PM

Yup, agree.

Greg wouldn't have had to beat the crap out of Buddy to get him to stop bullying...just the threat of doing so would have been sufficient... unless of course, Buddy had an older brother that as Greg's size.

The kid who played Buddy (Russell Schulman) did a very good job of playing a bully. There was also an episode of "The Andy Griffith Show" in which Schulman played a kid who was bullying the boy who played Ken Berry's son, Mike in the show. Opie (who was older by that time, it was a later-season episode) stepped in and got Schulman to stop bullying Mike, and Opie (of course) never had to throw a punch.

cleverfun3000 · 06-09-2015, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Hughsgirl

I'm sorry but if Pete was too afraid (which he was) and unable to stand up for his little sister than Greg should have been the one to do so. I know Peter beat him in the end, but it took too long to give that punk a taste of his own medicine - and Greg would have knocked the daylights out of him! Even after Peter got the black eye after taking Mike's suggestion with reasoning with him than he STILL wanted him to talk to him! That was totally assanine IMO. Bullies, even back then, have no sense or compassion and must be given a dose of their medicine, otherwise they continue to bully!

It's very likely that Buddy knew someone bigger than Greg and that guy would have knocked the daylights out of Greg. It would have eventually came down to Mike Brady fighting Buddy's Father (or Uncle).

Flying Dutchman · 06-11-2015, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by cleverfun3000

It's very likely that Buddy knew someone bigger than Greg and that guy would have knocked the daylights out of Greg. It would have eventually came down to Mike Brady fighting Buddy's Father (or Uncle).

Probably. Probably not. Buddy was always alone. Most bullies I knew, that have friends, will hang out with them so they can show off to them how tough they are. Besides, if he did have a bigger friend, he may have sent him after Peter for beating him up at the end. I really don't think Buddy had friends. Buddy was nobodies Buddy.

Frosty81 · 06-27-2015, 05:19 PM

This fight between Peter and Buddy is sort of lampooned in the 1980 John Travolta film Urban Cowboy, where Travolta's character, Bud Davis (who won the grand prize for the bull riding contest at Gilley's), beats the heck out of ex-convict Wes Hightower for beating Sissy (Bud's wife). Initially, Sissy resists Bud's wanting to take out Wes.

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Mark Mallard · 11-25-2015, 12:45 AM

I agree that Greg wouldn't have had to lay a finger on Buddy- his sheer presence alone would have sent Buddy running back to his inept parents!

studd911 · 11-26-2015, 06:42 PM

This was one of the best episode of dealing with bullying which is still going on today

Wawwie · 11-26-2015, 06:51 PM

Greg had every right to step in and defend his sister against a bully. Buddy would have pissed his pants at the mere presence of Greg threatening him. I agree that Greg wouldn't even have to touch Buddy. Just threatening him would be enough.

Bronson · 08-19-2016, 10:42 AM

What got me about that was Mr. Brady's silly nonsense telling Peter to try and talk to Buddy. You can't talk to a bully.

12-11-2014, 10:26 PM	#1
Flying Dutchman Member Senior Member Join Date: Sep 16, 2004 Location: New York Posts: 1,266	What If Greg Went After Buddy? I should put in an apology first in case this has been asked before. In the episode "Fist Full of Reasons" Peter is in his room with Mike Greg and Bobby, where he is feeling bad about backing down from Buddy Hinton's threat. Mike starts to talk to Peter about the benefits of reasoning instead of fighting, when Greg slams his fist into his other hand and says "If he bothers her again (Cindy) "I know how to handle him" Mike stops Greg saying "Now just a minute, Greg. This is Peters problem" It took the rest of the episode, and one black eye, for Peter to learn to fight and deal with Buddy. But if Mike had let Greg handle it in the 1st place, do you think the teasing would have stopped allot sooner? In one episode Greg scared the heck out of one of his friends, who wanted to start a roomer about Marcia, by telling the kid he would knock his head in. I believe Greg could have dealt with Buddy Hinton easily.

12-12-2014, 03:31 PM	#2
Marvo301 I'm NOT a Blockhead! Forum Celebrity Join Date: May 17, 2002 Location: The Great White North Posts: 21,456	The problem is that Greg is older and bigger than Buddy so he would have ended up looking like a bully. That wouldn't have solved the issue and wouldn't have met with Mike and Carol's approval. So it was necessary for Peter who was the same age and size as Buddy to be the one to confront him.
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06-06-2015, 11:47 PM	#7
Tweety Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Jan 18, 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 6,804	Yup, agree. Greg wouldn't have had to beat the crap out of Buddy to get him to stop bullying...just the threat of doing so would have been sufficient... unless of course, Buddy had an older brother that as Greg's size. The kid who played Buddy (Russell Schulman) did a very good job of playing a bully. There was also an episode of "The Andy Griffith Show" in which Schulman played a kid who was bullying the boy who played Ken Berry's son, Mike in the show. Opie (who was older by that time, it was a later-season episode) stepped in and got Schulman to stop bullying Mike, and Opie (of course) never had to throw a punch.
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02-09-2015, 02:14 PM	#5
Hughsgirl Member Forum Regular Join Date: Sep 22, 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 804	I'm sorry but if Pete was too afraid (which he was) and unable to stand up for his little sister than Greg should have been the one to do so. I know Peter beat him in the end, but it took too long to give that punk a taste of his own medicine - and Greg would have knocked the daylights out of him! Even after Peter got the black eye after taking Mike's suggestion with reasoning with him than he STILL wanted him to talk to him! That was totally assanine IMO. Bullies, even back then, have no sense or compassion and must be given a dose of their medicine, otherwise they continue to bully!

05-14-2015, 10:19 AM	#6
Flying Dutchman Member Senior Member Join Date: Sep 16, 2004 Location: New York Posts: 1,266	I can imagine Greg walking up to Buddy with an angry look. He grabs Buddy by the shirt, pulling Buddy toward him and looking him straight in the eye. Buddy as scared as he can be, says nothing as Greg goes on to say. "Now you listen to me Buddy! You leave my sister Cindy alone. Because if you don't? I will personally knock your head in. GET ME?" Then Greg pushes him back against the tree that Buddy likes to lean against. "Okay Greg" Buddy says back in a fearful stutter. Greg then walks away and that's it' It ended right there.

06-27-2015, 05:19 PM	#10
Frosty81 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jun 23, 2007 Location: Milwaukie, OR Posts: 214	This fight between Peter and Buddy is sort of lampooned in the 1980 John Travolta film Urban Cowboy, where Travolta's character, Bud Davis (who won the grand prize for the bull riding contest at Gilley's), beats the heck out of ex-convict Wes Hightower for beating Sissy (Bud's wife). Initially, Sissy resists Bud's wanting to take out Wes. ~Ben

11-25-2015, 12:45 AM	#11
Mark Mallard Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Mar 26, 2013 Location: United States of America Posts: 104	I agree that Greg wouldn't have had to lay a finger on Buddy- his sheer presence alone would have sent Buddy running back to his inept parents!

11-26-2015, 06:42 PM	#12
studd911 Member Senior Member Join Date: Aug 21, 2004 Posts: 1,285	This was one of the best episode of dealing with bullying which is still going on today

11-26-2015, 06:51 PM	#13
Wawwie Member Forum Star Join Date: Jul 26, 2006 Location: New York Posts: 14,376	Greg had every right to step in and defend his sister against a bully. Buddy would have pissed his pants at the mere presence of Greg threatening him. I agree that Greg wouldn't even have to touch Buddy. Just threatening him would be enough.

08-19-2016, 10:42 AM	#14
Bronson Member Frequent Poster Join Date: May 27, 2007 Location: Connecticut Posts: 274	What got me about that was Mr. Brady's silly nonsense telling Peter to try and talk to Buddy. You can't talk to a bully.