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Old 12-06-2014, 11:01 PM   #1
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Madderest I-70 Serial Killer and Caledonia Jane Doe

My interest in UM I learned of both DPJD and the i70 killer.
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: Interstate 70 runs from Baltimore, Maryland to Cove Fort, Utah. Beginning in April 1992, the highway has lent its name to a serial killer known as the "Interstate 70 Killer," who has committed a string of murders within a few miles of it in several Midwestern states. The first victim was Robin Fuldauer, 26, who was killed April 8, 1992 at a Payless ShoeSource store in Indianapolis, Indiana. Three days later, Patricia Magers, 32, and Patricia Smith, 23, were slain in a Wichita, Kansas bridal shop. On May 3, 1992, Nancy Kitzmiller, 24, was going to start a government job when she was murdered at a Western boot shop in St. Charles, a suburb of St. Louis. Missouri. Sarah Blessing 37, was slain in a gift shop at a local mall in the Kansas City suburb of Raytown four days later on May 7. At 3:30pm, an auctioneer saw a mysterious unidentified man walk in and out of his store suspiciously. Minutes later, Tim Hickman, who owned a video store next to Sarah saw a man walk past his store and went into the gift shop. He then heard a loud pop and saw the man walk around the corner near the store. A grocery clerk collecting shopping carts saw the man climb a hill to Interstate 70 and vanish. Meanwhile, Tim went into the gift shop and found Sarah's body. Ballistics test confirmed that all women were killed by the same person, and the gun was linked to another victim. On April 27, 1992, ceramics store clerk Michael 'Mick' McCown was murdered in Terre Haute, Indiana, possibly because he was mistaken for a woman.

There are also possible links to four more deaths along Interstates 35 and 45 in Texas. On Sept. 25, 1993, antiques store clerk Mary Ann Glasscock, 51, was killed execution-style in an Fort Worth, Texas antique store and Amy Vess, 22, was murdered Nov. 1, 1993, while working at a dancewear shop in Arlington, Texas. Witnesses describe the killer as a thin white man, 5' 7" to 5' 9," mid-20s to early 30s, with sandy blond hair with a reddish tint and day-old beard stubble. The best lead in the case came from Witchita in the Smith/Majors murder. Shortly after the two were shot, a man came to pick up a cummerbund for his tuxedo and was confronted by the killer. Surprisingly, he let the eyewitness leave without injury. The man went to police and helped create a composite of the killer.
all save one were women killed by gun shot. It is believed he is a serial killer and a thrill killer.

http://youtu.be/4j90zASoDpo

My interest in DPJD led me to Caledonia Jane Doe.
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On the morning of November 9, 1979, a farmer in Caledonia saw red clothing in one of his corn fields and went to investigate, believing that he had spotted a trespassing hunter. In the field he found the body of a young girl.[5][9] Police arrived on scene at 10:04 am.[10]

The girl, later named "Caledonia Jane Doe" or "Cali Doe" by investigators, was fully clothed. Her body showed no signs of sexual assault. She died from severe hemorrhage caused by two gunshot wounds, one to the head over the right eye and one to the back. Her pockets had been turned inside out, suggesting that if she carried any identification, her killer had removed it.[5][6]

Caledonia Jane Doe's autopsy indicated that she had first been shot in the head while next to the road bordering the corn field, at or near a blood spot found on the ground. Her body was then dragged into the corn field, where she was shot again in the back and left for dead on November 8, 1979. Heavy rains on the night of her death washed away much potential forensic evidence.[5][6][9]

Caledonia Jane Doe had been dumped about 20 feet (6 m) from the south side of U.S. Route 20 and 0.5 miles (0.8 km) from the intersection of U.S. Route 20 with New York State Route 5. The location of the site is approximately 42.917363°N 77.776299°W, less than half a mile from the town of Caledonia's border with the town of Avon, about 23 miles (37 km) southwest of Rochester, New York and about 10 miles (16 km) south of the New York State Thruway (Interstate 90 section).

Police believe the murder weapon to have been a .38-caliber handgun. Investigators located a spent slug in the dirt underneath the unidentified girl's body, which they compared forensically to hundreds of other bullets fired from confiscated weapons. Despite the efforts of investigators to trace weapons from the United States, Canada, Europe, and Mexico, the slug has not been matched to a specific gun.[5]

As Caledonia, New York, sits a driving distance of approximately 75 miles (120 km) from the United States–Canada border via the New York State Thruway and Interstate 90, the possibility remains that Caledonia Jane Doe may have been Canadian rather than American or Mexican.[6] Interstate 90 also runs from coast to coast within the United States, beginning in Seattle, Washington and ending in Boston, Massachusetts.

the gun is different, .22 vs .38 but it is known that i70 killer used different guns with different calibers. victims were females or thought to be females.
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Two interesting cases you bring up but before we even delve deeper there is one spanner in the works , Caledonia Doe was shot in 1979 and the I-70 killings start in 1992 , thats a 13 year difference ......the witness description and police estimate the I_70 killer to be around mid 20`s to mid-30`s around 1992 ...... so you have to believe in the upper end of that age bracket to try and fit the I-70 killer into the picture of the caledonia doe case

Victimology is broadly similar but I am being very liberal with the word broadly here , I am not quite convinced of a connection unless you have more details to suggest one ?
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Two interesting cases you bring up but before we even delve deeper there is one spanner in the works , Caledonia Doe was shot in 1979 and the I-70 killings start in 1992 , thats a 13 year difference ......the witness description and police estimate the I_70 killer to be around mid 20`s to mid-30`s around 1992 ...... so you have to believe in the upper end of that age bracket to try and fit the I-70 killer into the picture of the caledonia doe case

Victimology is broadly similar but I am being very liberal with the word broadly here , I am not quite convinced of a connection unless you have more details to suggest one ?
there are lots and lots of jane does who were murdered between 1979 and 1992 i.e

highway of tears
http://youtu.be/ICUFEhUe4lE

there are personal reasons, i.e he got married after 1979 but divorced by 1992.

if Caledonia Jane Do is Tammy Jo Alexander, we can infer that she met her killer at a truck stop and was a trucker, and told her he's heading to Boston. Tammy's parents owned a truck stop and she grew up around truckers.
She was shot in the front, in the head, with no sign of struggle or defensive wounds. The Lima Diner waitress said

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9. DINER RELATED - What was the name of the Diner ( in LIMA?)? How far from where she was found? Was she wearing the same outfit when at the diner? Since the waitress described the guy she was with, did they act like they knew each other?

A - Lima Diner was the name. The distance from where she was found to the Diner is just under 9 miles. The waitress noted the red jacket that appeared too big for her. The waitress noted that she appeared younger than the male she was with and the waitress assumed maybe they were brother and sister. She did not note any unusual behavior between the two.
https://www.facebook.com/CaledoniaNYJD1979/notes

Caledonia is estimated to be 16 and if the waitress thought they were brother and sister, then he was a young man in 1979.

One victim of i70 who survived said the man was very friendly and talkative no unusual behavior, none, just another customer when suddenly and without warning he shot her (granted this was in 1992)
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http://youtu.be/4j90zASoDpo

Tammy's personality as “ very outgoing, not a shy bone in her body.”

https://charleyross.wordpress.com/20...facebook-page/

i70 killer traveled many states on i70 over a wide geographical area.

Tammy/Caledonia was seen as a hitchhiker.

mode of killing, using a gun is the same. no apparent sexual interest. he is classified as a thrill kill.


2014 - year that Caledonia Jane doe was solved, and year her murderer is named.

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JD's killer sketch
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The way caledonia doe was shot with no apparent signs of motive and/or sexual interest is quite unusual and makes me wonder ....

The trouble I have here is that the waitress description of the man with caledonia doe is very vague from published accounts, no age estimate, the sketch depicts a man with spectacles and our I-70 killer doesnt seem to wear any and has reddish-brown hair from descriptions.

The composite of the man seen with caledonia doe does hint at a possible receding hairline and yet the I-70 doesnt show any based on the composite from the witness. The other thing is its not quite 100% certain if the man seen with caledonia doe at the Lima diner is even the killer so its tight one trying to make a definitive connection in these cases....

The nature of the attacks on the victims do have some distant parallels but if delved deeper its a bit 50/50. What I have found perplexing about the I-70 killer is the limited amount of information available on the Texas killings in 1994 ......
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The way caledonia doe was shot with no apparent signs of motive and/or sexual interest is quite unusual and makes me wonder ....

The trouble I have here is that the waitress description of the man with caledonia doe is very vague from published accounts, no age estimate, the sketch depicts a man with spectacles and our I-70 killer doesnt seem to wear any and has reddish-brown hair from descriptions.

The composite of the man seen with caledonia doe does hint at a possible receding hairline and yet the I-70 doesnt show any based on the composite from the witness. The other thing is its not quite 100% certain if the man seen with caledonia doe at the Lima diner is even the killer so its tight one trying to make a definitive connection in these cases....

The nature of the attacks on the victims do have some distant parallels but if delved deeper its a bit 50/50. What I have found perplexing about the I-70 killer is the limited amount of information available on the Texas killings in 1994 ......

basically it's based on 1-victims were all women save one and
2- as you say
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The way caledonia doe was shot with no apparent signs of motive and/or sexual interest is quite unusual and makes me wonder ....


The nature of the attacks on the victims do have some distant parallels but if delved deeper its a bit 50/50.
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Law enforcement eventually linked this shocking crime to the I-70 serial killer through shell casings left behind at the scene. This cold-blooded assassin was also connected to the murders of Robin Fuldauer, 26, at a Payless shoe store in Indianapolis, IN; Patricia Magers, 32, and Patricia Smith, 23, at La Bridal shop in Wichita, KS; Michael McCown, 40, at Sylvia’s Ceramics in Terra Haute, IN., and Nancy Kitzmiller, 24, at Boot Village in St. Charles, MO.
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The girl, later named "Caledonia Jane Doe" or "Cali Doe" by investigators, was fully clothed. Her body showed no signs of sexual assault. She died from severe hemorrhage caused by two gunshot wounds, one to the head over the right eye and one to the back. Her pockets had been turned inside out, suggesting that if she carried any identification, her killer had removed it.[5][6]

Caledonia Jane Doe's autopsy indicated that she had first been shot in the head while next to the road bordering the corn field, at or near a blood spot found on the ground. Her body was then dragged into the corn field, where she was shot again in the back and left for dead on November 8, 1979. Heavy rains on the night of her death washed away much potential forensic evidence.[5][6][9]

compare 1979 murder to

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Roughly 15 minutes later, video store owner Tim Hickman, whose shop was next to Blessing’s, heard a loud pop that sounded like a gunshot. When he went to investigate the disturbing noise, he found Blessing in a back room of her store, dead from a gunshot wound to the head. She had not been sexually assaulted and only a small amount of cash was taken from the register.
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The motive itself has never really been clear since none of the stores had large amounts of money, and there appeared to be no motive other than possible “thrill killing.”

The perpetrator left very little physical evidence behind and the hundreds of once promising leads have long since been exhausted. Twenty years later, all of the crimes remain unsolved.
with i70 it's worth noting that after shooting his victims in the head he dragged them to the back of the store and would shoot them again.

AFAIK, it appears that a thrill killing by a white male on unfamiliar white females is pretty rare.

are there other examples of this?
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Interesting points and very good question ..... Off the top of my head I dont know of a thrill killing by a white male on unfamiliar white females (with no overt motive- sexual or otherwise) which fits similar parallels to the I-70 , I will wrack my brains over this for the next 24hrs
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Interesting points and very good question ..... Off the top of my head I dont know of a thrill killing by a white male on unfamiliar white females (with no overt motive- sexual or otherwise) which fits similar parallels to the I-70 , I will wrack my brains over this for the next 24hrs
well u know a couple of posters thought u and i were the same poster on the DPJD thread

how many other white females, mind you caledonia had dark hair just like the i70 victims, were shot by a suspect described as a white male, who targeted white women (with exception of a white male with long hair) solely as a thrill kill from 1979-1994? i do wonder if the i70 killer would have killed if the women were black or asian.
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well u know a couple of posters thought u and i were the same poster on the DPJD thread

how many other white females, mind you caledonia had dark hair just like the i70 victims, were shot by a suspect described as a white male, who targeted white women (with exception of a white male with long hair) solely as a thrill kill from 1979-1994? i do wonder if the i70 killer would have killed if the women were black or asian.
yeah that was strange ...

I think the I-70 would have killed any woman given the opportunity, the women he targeted were in the right type location he favored, from watching the Dark Minds episode it seems this guy chose locations first then after watching moved in for the kill so I doubt race of victim would have mattered much to him ....

come to think of it I cant think of any cases coming close to the I-70 , I think this guy may have had issues with female store clerks from the past and his killings may represent his private war against them a.k.a his revenge ....
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yeah that was strange ...

I think the I-70 would have killed any woman given the opportunity, the women he targeted were in the right type location he favored, from watching the Dark Minds episode it seems this guy chose locations first then after watching moved in for the kill so I doubt race of victim would have mattered much to him ....

come to think of it I cant think of any cases coming close to the I-70 , I think this guy may have had issues with female store clerks from the past and his killings may represent his private war against them a.k.a his revenge ....
so you watched the the Dark Minds episode ? so did i


http://youtu.be/4j90zASoDpo

at 13 minutes narrator points out all the victims had shoulder length brown hair and white, speculating this is his victim preference.

CJD had shoulder length brown hair.

the narrator states they think he cases the place and if he sees his type he acts. in several shootings the adjacent store was a video store with an old white male, but he was not shot. so i think he chooses females specifically.

maybe we are the same person

so do u think a 13 year younger i70 killer in 1979 killed Caledonia Jane Doe?
are there other women shot as a thrill kill from 1979-1992?

fyi i did email the fbi and new york with my "tip"

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so you watched the the Dark Minds episode ? so did i


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Yes I did !

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at 13 minutes narrator points out all the victims had shoulder length brown hair and white, speculating this is his victim preference.

CJD had shoulder length brown hair.
Thats interesting because that inference and broad similarity of the looks my suggest a more personal motive to the crimes like revenge , thrill (sexual).....

This whole thing of shoulder length haired brunettes amazed me because there seemed to have been a lot of serial killers especially starting in the 70`s who targeted shoulder length brunettes for some odd reason e.g Bundy, Gypsy Hill Killer , East Area Rapist/Original Night Stalker ....... for some reason shoulder length brunettes have born the brunt of many a serial killer

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you shouldnt say that it will start a riot !

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so do u think a 13 year younger i70 killer in 1979 killed Caledonia Jane Doe?
are there other women shot as a thrill kill from 1979-1992?
Hmm , there isnt anything to definitively rule out that possibility if you assume I-70 killer was in his mid-30s by the early 90`s , I am on the fence on this one . I wish there was more info on the man CJD was seen with apart from the scraggy sketch...

At the moment I cant think of any thrill kill cases resembling , but there could be some .....when you submitted your tip did you get a reply ? How long ago did you submit your tip ?
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Yes I did !



Thats interesting because that inference and broad similarity of the looks my suggest a more personal motive to the crimes like revenge , thrill (sexual).....

This whole thing of shoulder length haired brunettes amazed me because there seemed to have been a lot of serial killers especially starting in the 70`s who targeted shoulder length brunettes for some odd reason e.g Bundy, Gypsy Hill Killer , East Area Rapist/Original Night Stalker ....... for some reason shoulder length brunettes have born the brunt of many a serial killer


you shouldnt say that it will start a riot !



Hmm , there isnt anything to definitively rule out that possibility if you assume I-70 killer was in his mid-30s by the early 90`s , I am on the fence on this one . I wish there was more info on the man CJD was seen with apart from the scraggy sketch...

At the moment I cant think of any thrill kill cases resembling , but there could be some .....when you submitted your tip did you get a reply ? How long ago did you submit your tip ?
just this week i did, here's comparison pictures



based on the broad geography i wonder if the i70 was or is a trucker.



the man CJD seen with is undoubtedly her killer. CJD had a last meal and the person who paid for this meal has never come forward.

sometimes i think we have a psychic connection
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Shiver me timbers ! That photo montage does really make me wonder, speaking of the photos are the women in the bottom pictures the Texas victims ?.

On CJD ,(1) how long before being shot was her meal with the mystery man ? (2) Is it just me or does CJD look very young ?


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Shiver me timbers ! That photo montage does really make me wonder, speaking of the photos are the women in the bottom pictures the Texas victims ?.

On CJD ,(1) how long before being shot was her meal with the mystery man ? (2) Is it just me or does CJD look very young ?




yeah, such things have been known to happen
I sense a great disturbance in the Force. We have a new enemy. His victims were described as petitite brunettes, not black hair, not blondes.
CJD
The height and weight of the victim were estimated to be 5 feet 3 inches (1.60 m) and 120 pounds (54 kg), respectively.

so she is petite brunettes.

obviously i wonder if a shop had a petite blonde woman or a black haired woman, say japanese, working alone and he passed over them.


if you watch the documentary in the bridal shop a black guy enters, sees him, but he lets him walk out. then later he near a video shop and looks in, then walks to the next store in Texas, and shoots.

I do believe they are the Texas victims.

well CJD is estimated 13-19, with 16 being most likely. Her wisdom teeth had not yet formed.
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"Case File 1UFNY". Unidentified Victims. The Doe Network. Retrieved 27 May 2012.
"Murdered Girl's Identity a Mystery". The Palladium-Times (Oswego, New York). Associated Press. 19 January 1980. p. 12. Retrieved 2 October 2013.

if it is a same guy then 2014 is the year CJD is identified and her killer named on this forum

if this is right i70 is a trucker who was in Caledonia NY in 1979, and probably CJD is his first kill. He liked it so over time he became the i70 killer in 1992.

As a trucker he told CJD he will let her hitchhike with him to Boston. As a trucker he is familiar with I70.

He very likely picked up other hitchhikers in the intervening years, brunette petite blondes and then shot them in the head and threw their bodies in a ditch. he's a serial killer and killing petite brunettes is his thing.

yes based on age as described by witness, he would have to be in the mid-thirties to be old enough to kill CJD.
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There are two similarities between Cali and the I-70 victims.
They are white women and they were killed by guns. That's all.

The I-70 victims were strangers. Cali was likely killed by her traveling companion.

They are far apart in space and time.

IMO there is no connection at all.
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There are two similarities between Cali and the I-70 victims.
They are white women and they were killed by guns. That's all.

The I-70 victims were strangers. Cali was likely killed by her traveling companion.

They are far apart in space and time.

IMO there is no connection at all.
IMO you're not very observant
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