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I-70 Serial Killer and Caledonia Jane Doe
My interest in UM I learned of both DPJD and the i70 killer.
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http://youtu.be/4j90zASoDpo My interest in DPJD led me to Caledonia Jane Doe. Quote:
the gun is different, .22 vs .38 but it is known that i70 killer used different guns with different calibers. victims were females or thought to be females. |
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Two interesting cases you bring up but before we even delve deeper there is one spanner in the works , Caledonia Doe was shot in 1979 and the I-70 killings start in 1992 , thats a 13 year difference ......the witness description and police estimate the I_70 killer to be around mid 20`s to mid-30`s around 1992 ...... so you have to believe in the upper end of that age bracket to try and fit the I-70 killer into the picture of the caledonia doe case
Victimology is broadly similar but I am being very liberal with the word broadly here , I am not quite convinced of a connection unless you have more details to suggest one ?
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highway of tears http://youtu.be/ICUFEhUe4lE there are personal reasons, i.e he got married after 1979 but divorced by 1992. if Caledonia Jane Do is Tammy Jo Alexander, we can infer that she met her killer at a truck stop and was a trucker, and told her he's heading to Boston. Tammy's parents owned a truck stop and she grew up around truckers. She was shot in the front, in the head, with no sign of struggle or defensive wounds. The Lima Diner waitress said Quote:
Caledonia is estimated to be 16 and if the waitress thought they were brother and sister, then he was a young man in 1979. One victim of i70 who survived said the man was very friendly and talkative no unusual behavior, none, just another customer when suddenly and without warning he shot her (granted this was in 1992) . http://youtu.be/4j90zASoDpo Tammy's personality as “ very outgoing, not a shy bone in her body.” https://charleyross.wordpress.com/20...facebook-page/ i70 killer traveled many states on i70 over a wide geographical area. Tammy/Caledonia was seen as a hitchhiker. mode of killing, using a gun is the same. no apparent sexual interest. he is classified as a thrill kill. 2014 - year that Caledonia Jane doe was solved, and year her murderer is named. i70 killer sketch ![]() JD's killer sketch
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The way caledonia doe was shot with no apparent signs of motive and/or sexual interest is quite unusual and makes me wonder ....
The trouble I have here is that the waitress description of the man with caledonia doe is very vague from published accounts, no age estimate, the sketch depicts a man with spectacles and our I-70 killer doesnt seem to wear any and has reddish-brown hair from descriptions. The composite of the man seen with caledonia doe does hint at a possible receding hairline and yet the I-70 doesnt show any based on the composite from the witness. The other thing is its not quite 100% certain if the man seen with caledonia doe at the Lima diner is even the killer so its tight one trying to make a definitive connection in these cases.... The nature of the attacks on the victims do have some distant parallels but if delved deeper its a bit 50/50. What I have found perplexing about the I-70 killer is the limited amount of information available on the Texas killings in 1994 ...... |
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basically it's based on 1-victims were all women save one and 2- as you say Quote:
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AFAIK, it appears that a thrill killing by a white male on unfamiliar white females is pretty rare. are there other examples of this? |
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Interesting points and very good question ..... Off the top of my head I dont know of a thrill killing by a white male on unfamiliar white females (with no overt motive- sexual or otherwise) which fits similar parallels to the I-70 , I will wrack my brains over this for the next 24hrs
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how many other white females, mind you caledonia had dark hair just like the i70 victims, were shot by a suspect described as a white male, who targeted white women (with exception of a white male with long hair) solely as a thrill kill from 1979-1994? i do wonder if the i70 killer would have killed if the women were black or asian. |
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yeah that was strange ...I think the I-70 would have killed any woman given the opportunity, the women he targeted were in the right type location he favored, from watching the Dark Minds episode it seems this guy chose locations first then after watching moved in for the kill so I doubt race of victim would have mattered much to him .... come to think of it I cant think of any cases coming close to the I-70 , I think this guy may have had issues with female store clerks from the past and his killings may represent his private war against them a.k.a his revenge ....
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http://youtu.be/4j90zASoDpo at 13 minutes narrator points out all the victims had shoulder length brown hair and white, speculating this is his victim preference. CJD had shoulder length brown hair. the narrator states they think he cases the place and if he sees his type he acts. in several shootings the adjacent store was a video store with an old white male, but he was not shot. so i think he chooses females specifically. maybe we are the same person so do u think a 13 year younger i70 killer in 1979 killed Caledonia Jane Doe? are there other women shot as a thrill kill from 1979-1992? fyi i did email the fbi and new york with my "tip" |
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This whole thing of shoulder length haired brunettes amazed me because there seemed to have been a lot of serial killers especially starting in the 70`s who targeted shoulder length brunettes for some odd reason e.g Bundy, Gypsy Hill Killer , East Area Rapist/Original Night Stalker ....... for some reason shoulder length brunettes have born the brunt of many a serial killer Quote:
you shouldnt say that it will start a riot ! Quote:
. I wish there was more info on the man CJD was seen with apart from the scraggy sketch...At the moment I cant think of any thrill kill cases resembling , but there could be some .....when you submitted your tip did you get a reply ? How long ago did you submit your tip ? |
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![]() based on the broad geography i wonder if the i70 was or is a trucker. the man CJD seen with is undoubtedly her killer. CJD had a last meal and the person who paid for this meal has never come forward. sometimes i think we have a psychic connection
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Shiver me timbers ! That photo montage does really make me wonder, speaking of the photos are the women in the bottom pictures the Texas victims ?.
On CJD ,(1) how long before being shot was her meal with the mystery man ? (2) Is it just me or does CJD look very young ? Quote:
yeah, such things have been known to happen
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CJD The height and weight of the victim were estimated to be 5 feet 3 inches (1.60 m) and 120 pounds (54 kg), respectively. so she is petite brunettes. obviously i wonder if a shop had a petite blonde woman or a black haired woman, say japanese, working alone and he passed over them. if you watch the documentary in the bridal shop a black guy enters, sees him, but he lets him walk out. then later he near a video shop and looks in, then walks to the next store in Texas, and shoots. I do believe they are the Texas victims. well CJD is estimated 13-19, with 16 being most likely. Her wisdom teeth had not yet formed. Quote:
ref "Case File 1UFNY". Unidentified Victims. The Doe Network. Retrieved 27 May 2012. "Murdered Girl's Identity a Mystery". The Palladium-Times (Oswego, New York). Associated Press. 19 January 1980. p. 12. Retrieved 2 October 2013. if it is a same guy then 2014 is the year CJD is identified and her killer named on this forum if this is right i70 is a trucker who was in Caledonia NY in 1979, and probably CJD is his first kill. He liked it so over time he became the i70 killer in 1992. As a trucker he told CJD he will let her hitchhike with him to Boston. As a trucker he is familiar with I70. He very likely picked up other hitchhikers in the intervening years, brunette petite blondes and then shot them in the head and threw their bodies in a ditch. he's a serial killer and killing petite brunettes is his thing. yes based on age as described by witness, he would have to be in the mid-thirties to be old enough to kill CJD. |
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There are two similarities between Cali and the I-70 victims.
They are white women and they were killed by guns. That's all. The I-70 victims were strangers. Cali was likely killed by her traveling companion. They are far apart in space and time. IMO there is no connection at all. |
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