BettyWhiteFan Please send me the discs you've owed me for over 2 months!

[april4972]

I was fine waiting until you started to ignore me when I asked how much longer it would be and now you have PMs blocked so I am posting here!

Please send the discs I have been waiting for since July!

Thank you!

[april4972]

I have been on this site over 10 years! I wouldn't post anything to the wrong person to hurt anyone's credibility! Anyone who wants to see the PMs setting up our trade or any Moderator who wants to look at them please feel free. They are all in my PM inbox. There is no confusion. Once I posted this you wrote me right away and said you would send my discs and asked me to remove this post. Once I get them I will delete the post.

**One more thing BettyWhiteFan-if this was true and I confused you, why did you reply to Solomon in the One Day At A Time forum when he asked you if you were going to send my discs you said we worked things out. If I have you confused you would have told him the same thing, not that we worked things out. It's all there in the forum for anyone to see**

Originally Posted by BettyWhiteFan

No idea what you're talking about. You must have me confused with someone else. My username is similar to others on here but you've got the wrong person. Be careful what you post on here because you could ruin someone's credibility.

[april4972]

Originally Posted by BettyWhiteFan

Don't know why you are bothering me or the people on this board with false information or why you are reading all of my posts. I am sorry you feel the need to lie but I for one am offended by your accusations of me.

I am not lying about anything and you know it. All I wanted you to do was send my discs or let me know when you would send them. I am a SLOW trader and I have no problem waiting. I sent yours right out in July which was rare for me because I usually take forever (not proud of that). When you ignored me I posted here. There is no lie. Below is what you sent me earlier, then you post that I lie. Who is lying? I said nothing rude to you, I didn't accuse you of anything, I just asked for the discs. Nothing wrong with that. By saying our trade is done you are saying I am not getting my discs.

Originally Posted by BettyWhiteFan

I am leaving because once you get a bad rap you can't get rid of it. The PM thing was a mistake like I mentioned but you went and posted it for the world to see so I had to reply. I was working on your DVDs all day but I needed that post deleted so my name would not be tarnished. Consider this trade done!



Have a great day
Mike!

[wiseguy182]

I'll have to side with april4972 here. I had a trade with BettyWhiteFan and it went pretty lousy. Found him to be rude, picky, impatient, demanding, hypocritical and obnoxious. Not only wanted a specific type of disc, but a specific brand of disc - bought new spindle of discs just to appease his request. In turn, he sends mine on crap media and took FOREVER to do so. Told me various dates he would send my discs, all of which came and went = no discs. He then lied and said he sent them on such and such date, which didn't happen. Eventually got the discs. This is after he was impatient with ME because I didn't send fast enough to his liking. He also has numerous account here, which actually isn't allowed.

Out of the discs I sent him, there was one problem with one part of one episode on one disc, which remarkably he found RIGHT AWAY. I offered to try and fix the issue and got a snotty response in return.

So I guess I would say to BettyWhiteFan: how exactly is april ruining your reputation when it wasn't good to begin with? It's not like you've been on here for many years and have tons of positive feedback. I find your multiple accounts, eliminating contact info and feigning ignorance on a trade to be very suspicious.

[wiseguy182]

Originally Posted by BettyWhiteFan

You are wrong! My only request was that you use DVD-R because nothing else works on my machine. I didn't care less about the brand you used. You were the one who asked me what brand I used.

I never gave you a snotty response. I asked simply asked if the disc that had an episode freeze on it was a problem with my disc or a problem with your disc as well. I never wanted a replacement or anything in return. I simply wanted an answer.

I never gave you crappy DVDs either. I gave you the next best available at the store because they did not have the discs you requested.

Like I said before you asked about the brand discs not me!

I have all the PMs from that trade so don't paint a colorful story to trash me with.

Um...no.

One of the problems I had with you requesting DVD-R specifically was that you requested it after the fact. Much like you requested me to throw in a whole other set after the fact (which I did because I'm a generous person). If you want to request certain things while the trade negotiations are going on, that's your prerogative, but asking for things after the trade is already agreed to is unbeliebably tacky and nervy.

Hewlett Packard's are crap discs. You stated you used Sony and Phillips, so I expected one of those two. You put them on HP without even asking me first.

I also have all of the PM"s from that trade saved.

[wiseguy182]

Originally Posted by BettyWhiteFan

News flash! You asked for 2 sets so why should I not request another one. You asked for 2 show so I did the same thing. What's the problem? You can ask for 2 sets but I can't? You say you are being generous after you already asked for 2 things is hilarious.

I do apologies for requesting the discs after the process started but come on that is very little compared to how you are accusing me of being hard to work with. You asked me what brand I used? So don't make it sound like I asked that question to you.

Ask you? Seriously! Like I said before the store did not have the ones you requested so I got the best they had (according to a sales person) so you would not have to wait any longer. Why should I have asked you? You had already been waiting long enough so I made a decision to buy what the store had. You would have been more upset if I ordered the discs online because you would have to wait about 1 to 2 weeks before they arrived to me.

My PMs for this trade will back me up so I won't argue with you over this

As any trader will tell you, it's not the amount of sets, but the number of discs. I had a very hard time getting disc counts from you on anything. I provided you with disc counts on the stuff you were asking about.

How do you know I would have been more upset? Can you read inside my brain? I would have preferred to wait instead of getting them on HP discs.

Your arguments don't really hold any water. There were several WEEKS that passed between when you received my discs and when I finally got mine. Does Atlanta only have one store?

In any event, you're avoiding the issue: why don't you send april her discs? Why have you eliminated your contact info? Why do you have duplicate accounts on here? Why won't you answer any of that?

[robyrob]

I believe in being open about everything - if you were having problems with some disks or contacting people through PMs, then TELL THE PERSON.

lying about things will only make a situation worse and do nothing but ruin your reputation, and if anyone thinks they are fooling anyone by using multiple accounts or usernames, you are not. And believe me, most of the traders here have contact with or are active on the other trading sites, so a bad reputation on one site WILL follow you.

This situation could have easily been avoided had someone just apologized, said that they were working on the disks and having problems with emails/PMs.

[robyrob]

Originally Posted by BettyWhiteFan

I am tired of having to defend myself that is why I have eliminated my contact information. I don't want people emailing me and PMing me over this silly stuff

I have one other account but that was from years back. I had a nusiance bothering me about something so I simply changed my account so he would leave me alone. I will even tell you the name of the other account if you care so much.

Remember we had a few ice storms during the time of our trade so I was limited on where I could go to get discs. Shipping and handling is costly so for me to buy the discs I would have to pay extra so it was easier for me to go to the store.

Have a great day! I am done arguing this! I hate the trade game anyway because you always deal with one or two difficult people during your time on the site. I will buy bootlegs on Sell.com instead of dealing with anymore trading on this site or any others for that matter.

If you want to go to iOffer or Sell.com or whatever, you are welcome to - good luck avoiding any potential scammers or hard-to-deal-with people on there, don't those sites have buyer and seller ratings as well?

If you didn't want anything to be public or any "hassles" why wouldn't you just answer your PM's or try to make an effort to make a compromise with people and try to make things right? I think that you will find that people will give you a lot more benefit of the doubt if you are at least making an effort to cooperate.

Send April the disks. Do what you want from there, but if you want to get and maintain a good reputation, you have to earn it.

[wiseguy182]

Originally Posted by BettyWhiteFan

I am tired of having to defend myself that is why I have eliminated my contact information. I don't want people emailing me and PMing me over this silly stuff

I have one other account but that was from years back. I had a nusiance bothering me about something so I simply changed my account so he would leave me alone. I will even tell you the name of the other account if you care so much.

Remember we had a few ice storms during the time of our trade so I was limited on where I could go to get discs. Shipping and handling is costly so for me to buy the discs I would have to pay extra so it was easier for me to go to the store.

Have a great day! I am done arguing this! I hate the trade game anyway because you always deal with one or two difficult people during your time on the site. I will buy bootlegs on Sell.com instead of dealing with anymore trading on this site or any others for that matter.

What a load.

If someone was bothering you on your previous account, why didn't you just contact mods/admins? Or better yet, just put the person on ignore? Creating a whole new account is foolish, not to mention against forum rules.

I live in Michigan. We had an ice storm last winter as well. Not to mention several severe snowstorms and winter weather advisories (which included below zero temps). That doesn't mean we were trapped in one space for weeks. They were a huge inconvenience, yes, but it didn't last several weeks.

Actually, I did contact a moderator about your issues during the course of our trade (near the end). That was after you LIED to me about a lot of things.

Adios!

[april4972]

Originally Posted by BettyWhiteFan

This entire post is unnecessary because the person who created it should have waited for a response to the email she sent instead of posting publicly.

If I overreacted then I am sorry but it is not cool to see a my name posted in the trading post as I scroll down the page.

The post was not unnecessary because I asked you for status of our July trade on Sept 4th thru a PM, no reply.

I asked you again for status on Sept 15th, again, no reply.

I posted this thread on Sept 20th because after seeing your posts in this Forum offering sets of shows and recording new shows I tried to PM you one more time and your PMs were blocked! You were on the site but ignoring me. How was I supposed to contact you? I posted asking for my discs. I didn't ruin your reputation by asking for my discs. You should have just replied to my Sept 4th PM and let me know status. That would have solved everything.

You said I have you confused with someone else and I was a liar but yet now you say I should have waited for a response to my email?

I didn't want to reply and I won't anymore. You know you owe me discs. You know you didn't respond when I asked for status after 2 months and you know I am not confusing you. If you don't want to send the discs now, well you have cheated me out of about 20 discs and that is not right.

If people still want to deal with you that's great! I just recommend that they have you send first then if they don't send your discs and they ignore your requests for status, then we will see how you feel!

[robyrob]

lets just keep it civil and on topic please, and we'll update this thread when the trade has been completed.

[BettyWhiteFan]

Originally Posted by robyrob

lets just keep it civil and on topic please, and we'll update this thread when the trade has been completed.

What's the use? I have been attacked by TVFACTFAN on every thread I post on! This is why I over reacted earlier. I don't care that April wanted to express her peace as much as I care about the attacks I have been getting via this board.


As long as this thread is up I am afraid these attacks will continue. I am not willing to be civil if people won't be civil with me.

[ForzaBot]

Originally Posted by BettyWhiteFan

What's the use? I have been attacked by TVFACTFAN on every thread I post on! This is why I over reacted earlier. I don't care that April wanted to express her peace as much as I care about the attacks I have been getting via this board.


As long as this thread is up I am afraid these attacks will continue. I am not willing to be civil if people won't be civil with me.

What's the use? Just because people are picking on you (which you rightfully deserve) doesn't change the fact that you have basically stolen from April and that you owe her the DVDs promised to be exchanged. Sometimes people can be slow and mishaps happen- if you were willing to talk to resolve the problem this wouldn't have come to the level that it has come to. Plus, you've been acting like a total moron, trying to pretend your someone else....dude come on, we've all been around the block more than once, clearly you are a scammer and not the brightest one at that. Send April what you owe her- this has nothing to do with other people "attacking" you! You owe her DVDs and you need to send them to her, that's all there is to this situation. I admit I've had some mishaps (slow shipping time, package lost by the post office) but not once would I not reply to someone I have an ongoing trade with! Make this right and quit trying to cop out of it and using the people "attacking" you as an excuse not to send April her discs YOU OWE HER!

[ForzaBot]

Originally Posted by BettyWhiteFan

I admit I was wrong for avoiding the issue but I did not want people knowing about a mistake. I have been trying to contact April but she decided to go public about it before trying to work with me.

I am no thief as this post accuses me of and I will not entertain a one sided bash fest.

She is lying about the blocked PMs. Just because I did not reply right away means my PMs were blocked. That's a load of crap!

She is not being completely honest so mind your own business!

As long as this post is up I am not entertaining anymore comments on the issue.

People already think I am a thief so why should I try and make anyone happy. People will still think I am a thief no matter what I do.

April caused all of this commotion over a simple mistake!

You owe her discs, whether people are accusing you of this and that it doesn't matter- let me break it down for you:

April sent you discs
You send nothing
You owe her discs..... NO MATTER WHAT. Whether there's a commotion or people think you're a thief it doesn't matter- you owe her discs so man up and send them to her, NOTHING else matters other than this fact! You received your end ofthe deal from her, so you owe her what she was supposed to receive regardless of anything else! Stop trying to weasel your way out and using people calling you a thief and this and that as an excuse as to why you shouldn't send April what you owe her! This is literally mind boggling that you are even trying to defend your actions. She sent you stuff and you took that package in your house and added those discs to your collection. You owe her the same in return, bub.

[BettyWhiteFan]

Originally Posted by ForzaBot

You owe her discs, whether people are accusing you of this and that it doesn't matter- let me break it down for you:

April sent you discs
You send nothing
You owe her discs..... NO MATTER WHAT. Whether there's a commotion or people think you're a thief it doesn't matter- you owe her discs so man up and send them to her, NOTHING else matters other than this fact! You received your end ofthe deal from her, so you owe her what she was supposed to receive regardless of anything else! Stop trying to weasel your way out and using people calling you a thief and this and that as an excuse as to why you shouldn't send April what you owe her! This is literally mind boggling that you are even trying to defend your actions. She sent you stuff and you took that package in your house and added those discs to your collection. You owe her the same in return, bub.

I can send you the feedback from my online store and the feedback I have gotten here. I am no crook. I can present links that back up my integrity!

I am not going to let one bad situation change that