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JSP · 06-21-2014, 09:06 AM

Definitely Rhoda is like a completely different show between season 2 and 4. I can see why some would prefer the earlier seasons of Rhoda even though 4 is my favorite because the show's tone was a lot lighter and happier in the first two seasons. Plus compare Ida with Season 2 episodes like the one where she thinks she is having an affair with the doctor and where she meets Joe's ex-wife. It's like in the earlier seasons Ida Morgenstern seemed to have a lot more quick one-liners written for her than in Season 4. It makes sense because most of the writing staff was different by that time. The tone of seasons 1 and 2 was happy and light as a feather, the tone Season of 3 was heartbreak, and the tone of Season 4 was Rhoda recovering slowly from heartbreak but still not quite the person she was before the divorce. Season 5 was just a mess and I don't get any tone out of it other than everybody was giving up on the show. Too bad because the natural continuation for Season 5 would have been Rhoda would slowly get her groove back, but that's not how the writers wrote her.

TVFactFan · 06-28-2014, 03:57 PM

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Definitely Rhoda is like a completely different show between season 2 and 4. I can see why some would prefer the earlier seasons of Rhoda even though 4 is my favorite because the show's tone was a lot lighter and happier in the first two seasons. Plus compare Ida with Season 2 episodes like the one where she thinks she is having an affair with the doctor and where she meets Joe's ex-wife. It's like in the earlier seasons Ida Morgenstern seemed to have a lot more quick one-liners written for her than in Season 4. It makes sense because most of the writing staff was different by that time. The tone of seasons 1 and 2 was happy and light as a feather, the tone Season of 3 was heartbreak, and the tone of Season 4 was Rhoda recovering slowly from heartbreak but still not quite the person she was before the divorce. Season 5 was just a mess and I don't get any tone out of it other than everybody was giving up on the show. Too bad because the natural continuation for Season 5 would have been Rhoda would slowly get her groove back, but that's not how the writers wrote her.

The opening theme from season 5 made you feel that it was a recovery season

JSP · 06-28-2014, 04:54 PM

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The opening theme from season 5 made you feel that it was a recovery season

The opening Season 5 theme made me feel it was a Disco season.

I think it would have made the show better if she found another steady to go with. I know the writers thought Rhoda's single troubles were what made her who she was, but at some point normal people get into steady relationships. I sure hope they weren't going to keep her a single unlucky in love loser forever. I thought instead of adding drama into Ida and Martin's relationship they should have found a new relationship for Rhoda. But then when it moved to Saturday nights in Season 5 it was probably going to be a dead duck no matter what. Too bad. They could have done more to keep the show going.

TVFactFan · 06-28-2014, 05:03 PM

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The opening Season 5 theme made me feel it was a Disco season.

I think it would have made the show better if she found another steady to go with. I know the writers thought Rhoda's single troubles were what made her who she was, but at some point normal people get into steady relationships. I sure hope they weren't going to keep her a single unlucky in love loser forever. I thought instead of adding drama into Ida and Martin's relationship they should have found a new relationship for Rhoda. But then when it moved to Saturday nights in Season 5 it was probably going to be a dead duck no matter what. Too bad. They could have done more to keep the show going.

Funny that season 5 opening credits were the best

JSP · 06-28-2014, 05:30 PM

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Funny that season 5 opening credits were the best

I liked the Season 5 theme. I liked all the themes but Season 3. Season 3 had no character. Season 4 was kind of dark with that synthesized intro and the heavy percussion.

TVFactFan · 06-28-2014, 05:33 PM

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I liked the Season 5 theme. I liked all the themes but Season 3. Season 3 had no character. Season 4 was kind of dark with that synthesized intro and the heavy percussion.

I believe season 5 had the shot of the skyline in the very beginning

JSP · 06-28-2014, 05:45 PM

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I believe season 5 had the shot of the skyline in the very beginning

Yeah, the same synth intro was used for Season 5 I think. It's been so long since I've seen the Season 5 episodes I forgot. They really need to come out on DVD, even though they suck.

TVFactFan · 06-28-2014, 06:58 PM

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Yeah, the same synth intro was used for Season 5 I think. It's been so long since I've seen the Season 5 episodes I forgot. They really need to come out on DVD, even though they suck.

They had all the eps from season 5 on youtube but they were removed LOL

Atleast I finally got the chance to see them and don't have to buy the DVD

JSP · 06-29-2014, 10:03 AM

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They had all the eps from season 5 on youtube but they were removed LOL

Atleast I finally got the chance to see them and don't have to buy the DVD

I saw most of them on ME-TV when they ran them a few months back. Still want the DVD though. I want to complete the collection. Too bad they couldn't actually find all the complete episodes of Season 1 and in good quality prints. The Christmas episode is particularly frustrating to watch on the DVD. What a shoddy copy. They ought to re-release Season 1 after Season 5 comes out when they find better quality tapes, but of course, that's another thing that isn't going to happen.

JSP · 06-29-2014, 10:04 AM

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I saw most of them on ME-TV when they ran them a few months back. Still want the DVD though. I want to complete the collection. Too bad they couldn't actually find all the complete episodes of Season 1 and in good quality prints. The Christmas episode is particularly frustrating to watch on the DVD. What a shoddy copy. They ought to re-release Season 1 after they release Season 5 when they find better quality tapes, but of course, that's another thing that isn't going to happen.

TVFactFan · 06-29-2014, 01:29 PM

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I saw most of them on ME-TV when they ran them a few months back. Still want the DVD though. I want to complete the collection. Too bad they couldn't actually find all the complete episodes of Season 1 and in good quality prints. The Christmas episode is particularly frustrating to watch on the DVD. What a shoddy copy. They ought to re-release Season 1 after Season 5 comes out when they find better quality tapes, but of course, that's another thing that isn't going to happen.

Oh Me-TV did show season 5? Maybe I got Rhoda confused with Bob Newhart. I know Me-TV didn't show the last season of Bob Newhart

JSP · 06-29-2014, 01:50 PM

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Oh Me-TV did show season 5? Maybe I got Rhoda confused with Bob Newhart. I know Me-TV didn't show the last season of Bob Newhart

Yes, Me-TV did show Season 5 of Rhoda. I believe they did show some episodes of Season 6 of Bob Newhart.

TVFactFan · 06-29-2014, 01:57 PM

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Yes, Me-TV did show Season 5 of Rhoda. I believe they did show some episodes of Season 6 of Bob Newhart.

And Rhoda is off of Me-TV now right?

JSP · 06-29-2014, 03:48 PM

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And Rhoda is off of Me-TV now right?

Yes and Bob Newhart too I believe. They dropped Rhoda, Bob Newhart, Mary Tyler Moore and Taxi for the "Summer of Me", I believe, which is too bad. Because TV doesn't really get better than those four sitcoms from the 70s anyway if you ask me, so whatever they replaced them wasn't as good.

TVFactFan · 06-29-2014, 03:51 PM

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Yes and Bob Newhart too I believe. They dropped Rhoda, Bob Newhart, Mary Tyler Moore and Taxi for the "Summer of Me", I believe, which is too bad. Because TV doesn't really get better than those four sitcoms from the 70s anyway if you ask me, so whatever they replaced them wasn't as good.

Antenna TV will get me through the summer LOL

06-21-2014, 09:06 AM	#1
JSP Member Senior Member Join Date: Aug 19, 2003 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 2,735	The difference in tones for the show Definitely Rhoda is like a completely different show between season 2 and 4. I can see why some would prefer the earlier seasons of Rhoda even though 4 is my favorite because the show's tone was a lot lighter and happier in the first two seasons. Plus compare Ida with Season 2 episodes like the one where she thinks she is having an affair with the doctor and where she meets Joe's ex-wife. It's like in the earlier seasons Ida Morgenstern seemed to have a lot more quick one-liners written for her than in Season 4. It makes sense because most of the writing staff was different by that time. The tone of seasons 1 and 2 was happy and light as a feather, the tone Season of 3 was heartbreak, and the tone of Season 4 was Rhoda recovering slowly from heartbreak but still not quite the person she was before the divorce. Season 5 was just a mess and I don't get any tone out of it other than everybody was giving up on the show. Too bad because the natural continuation for Season 5 would have been Rhoda would slowly get her groove back, but that's not how the writers wrote her.