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Old 05-04-2014, 01:33 AM   #1
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Question Actors/actresses who are "serial show killers"

The Showkillers - TV Potluck - TWoP Forums
  • 20. Jaime King (5): "My Generation, "Gary Unmarried," "The Class," "Kitchen Confidential," "Harry Green and Eugene."

    19. Joely Fisher (5): "Wild Card," "Baby Bob," "Danny," "Normal Ohio," and "Grosse Point."

    18. Judy Greer (6): "Glen Martin DDS," "Mad Love," "Miss Guided," "Love Monkey," "Love and Money," and "Maggie Winters."

    Christian Slater, Summer Glau: US TV's Biggest Show Killers

    17. Summer Glau (7): "Good Morning Rabbit," "The Cape," "Dollhouse," "The Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles," "The Unit," and "Firefly."

    16. David Krumholz (7): "The Lyon's Den," "Lucky," "Undeclared," "The Trouble with Normal," "The Closer," "Chicago Sons," and "Monty."

    15. Mark Feuerstein (7): "The Hustler," "3 lbs," "Shark," "Good Morning Miami," "Conrad Bloom," "Fired Up," and "Caroline in the City."

    Burning Question: Are Some Bad-Luck TV Stars Certified Show-Killers? (We're Looking at You, Jerry O'Connell)

    14. George Clooney (8): "Sisters," "The Building," "Bodies of Evidence," "Jack's Place," "Baby Talk," "Throb," "Sunset Beat," "E/R" (not "E.R."), and the waning years of "The Facts of Life."

    13. Rena Sofer (8): "Dirty Sexy Money," "Blind Justice," "Mr. Nice Guy," "Coupling," "The Chronicle," "Opposite Sex," "Timecop," and "Oh, Grow Up"

    12. Tim Matheson (9): "Wolf Lake," "The Legend of Calamity Jane," "Charlie Hoover," "Just in Time," "Trying Times," "Tucker's Witch," "Trying Times," "Magician," "Three for the Road."

    11. Mädchen Amick (9): "My Own Worst Enemy," "Shark," "Viva Laughlin," "Kidnapped," "Freddie," "Joey," "Jake in Progress," "Queens Supreme," and "CPW."

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    10. Lindsay Price (10): "Love Bites," "Eastwick," "Lipstick Jungle," "Pepper Dennis," "Kitchen Confidential," "The Mountain," "Coupling," "Becker," "Jack and Jill," and "Head over Heels."

    9. David Alan Grier (10): "Life with Bonnie," "Samurai Jack," "Cedric the Entertainer Presents," "The Preston Episodes," "Tanner '88," "All is Forgiven," "The Proud Family," "Dag," "Damon," and "Pinky and the Brain"

    TV's 8 Biggest Show-Killers

    8. Jon Cryer (11): "Danny Phantom," "Stripperella," "Hey Joel," "Becker," "Andy Richter Controls the Universe," "The Trouble with Normal," "Mr. Show with Bob and David," "Getting Personal," "It's Good to Be King," "Partners," and "The Famous Teddy Z."

    7. Mark Valley (11): "Human Target," "Swingtown," "Emily's Reason's Why Not," "Keen Eddie," "I'm with Her," Harry Green and Eugene," "Pasadena," "The Lone Gunmen," "Brimstone," "LateLine," and "Gideon's Crossing."

    6. Sherri Shepard (12): "Sherri," "The Wedding Bells," "Kim Possible," "Less than Perfect," "Brandy and Mr. Whiskers," "My Adventures in Television," "Emeril," "The Jamie Foxx Show," "Suddenly Susan," "The Trouble with Normal," "Holding the Baby," and "Cleghorne."

    THE CURSE OF THE SHOW KILLERS

    5. Paget Brewster (12): "Dan vs.," "Stacked," "Duck Dodger," "Andy Richter Controls the Universe," "Rock Me Baby," "George Lopez," "Raising Dad," "Dag," "The Trouble with Normal," "Love and Money," "The Expert," and "Godzilla: The Series."

    4. Paula Marshall (13): "Friends with Benefits," "Gary Unmarried," "Shark," "Out of Practice," "Hidden Hills," "Ms. Match," "The Weber Show," "Snoops," "Cupid," "Chicago Sons," "The Single Guy," "Nash Bridges," "Wild Oats."

    3. Dondre Whitfield (15): "The Event," "Samantha Who?" "Jake in Progress," "Second Time Around," Strong Medicine," "Half and Half," "Less than Perfect," "The Hidden Hills," "Girlfriends," "Inside Schwartz," "Nash Bridges," "Secret Agent Man," "Between Brothers," "Living in Captivity," and "The Crew."

    2. Justin Louis (15): "Durham County," "1-800-Missing," "Hidden Hills," "Mutant X," "The Fighting Fitzgeralds," "The Fugitive," "Battery Park," "Trinity" "The Net," "Three," "Cracker: Mind over Murder," "Public Morals," "Local Heroes," "Cobra," and "Urban Angel."

    The Curse of the TV Show Killer

    1. Jason Gedrick (15): "Lie to Me," "Lincoln Heights," "Windfall," "Crossing Jordan," "LAX," "S.O.S. 18," "North Shore," "Boomtown," "Philly," "Strange Frequency," "The Beast," "EZ Streets," "Murder One," "Sweet Justice," and "Class of '96."

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They forgot to put Jamie Lunar on the list.
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The first person to come to my mind was Ted McGinley(Happy Days, Love Boat, etc) Poor Ted...........
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The first person to come to my mind was Ted McGinley(Happy Days, Love Boat, etc) Poor Ted...........
Alison La Placa is arguably the female Ted McGinley:
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Other names that I would add:
*Anybody on Friends (either before or after). Yes, I know that Cougar Town w/ Courteney Cox is still running, but even so, that show was cancelled by ABC before landing on TBS. And also, Courteney Cox was on Family Ties during its waning days.

*Raven-Symone (outside of That's So Raven). Many people think that The Cosby Show jumped the shark the moment her character, Olivia showed up. She was also on Hangin' With Mr. Cooper when it was revamped to a more family friendly sitcom following its first season (when Dawnn Lewis was on and it had a "black Three's Company vibe to it). She was also the catalyst to getting Jazz Raycole (the original Claire) removed from My Wife and Kids because of a teenage pregnancy storyline. And then there was her recent show on ABC Family that only lasted a season.

*Bumper Robinson, who w/ all due respect, could be considered the "black Ted McGinley" in that he's the guy that you call whenever it's around the time that your favorite sitcom (in this case, Amen, A Different World, Living Single, etc.) is about to wrap up.

*Any show featuring Julia Duffy as a regular cast member post-Newhart (e.g. Baby Talk along w/ fellow serial show killer Mary Page Keller,Designing Women, Social Studies, and Grace Under Fire).

*Any show that Heather Locklear has done outside of TJ Hooker, Dynasty, and Melrose Place.

*Any show that Christina Applegate as starred in post-Married...with Children.

*Any show that John Stamos has starred in post-Full House (e.g. Jack in Progress, ER during its waning years, and [i]Necessary Roughness during its last season).

*Robert Urich - I don't think any of the numerous shows that he had done (including Spencer for Hire) lasted beyond 100 episodes.

*Bonnie Hunt - No show including her talk show, has lasted beyond two seasons to the best of my knowledge.

*Ashley Johnson - None of the sitcoms that she has appeared in has lasted beyond two seasons. Also, she was of course, on Growing Pains as Chrissy Seaver during its waning days.

*Ray J. He was on Sinbad's sitcom, which only lasted a season. He was on Moesha w/ his sister Brandy around the time in which it jumped the shark, and he was on the final season of One on One.
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These actors are one word away from being serial killers, how dangerous!
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There's a couple of names on the list that I disagree with.

#19 - George Clooney was also in "Roseanne" during its first season before leaving to star in ER. (The first of many bad decisions that Roseanne made during her show's run.) That certainly didn't hurt his career at all since it made him a star and launched him into a stellar movie career which is still going strong today.

#8 - Jon Cryer has failed in many sitcoms but then he hit it big as the co-star of "Two And A Half Men" and today remains the only reason why it is still on the air and the only reason why it would still be worth watching.


And as for Ray J: Well....you can call him Ray J, or you can call him R.J., or you can call him Johnny, or you can call him Junior, but you don't have to call him Johnson!! I'm sorry. I couldn't resist!



My top show-killers list:


1. Courtney Thorne-Smith - The real female Ted McGinley. She sucks the life out of every series she's ever been on.
2. Andy Richter - Three-time sitcom loser, four if you count Conan's show.
3. David Spade - One of the unfunniest men on the planet, he should have never been allowed to do "8 Simple Rules".
4. Any one of the Wayans brothers. "In Living Color" was a great show, mainly because of Jim Carrey. Everything they've done since has sucked.
5. All of the "Seinfeld" alumni. They're better off staying home and counting their residuals.
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There's a couple of names on the list that I disagree with.

#19 - George Clooney was also in "Roseanne" during its first season before leaving to star in ER. (The first of many bad decisions that Roseanne made during her show's run.) That certainly didn't hurt his career at all since it made him a star and launched him into a stellar movie career which is still going strong today.

#8 - Jon Cryer has failed in many sitcoms but then he hit it big as the co-star of "Two And A Half Men" and today remains the only reason why it is still on the air and the only reason why it would still be worth watching.


And as for Ray J: Well....you can call him Ray J, or you can call him R.J., or you can call him Johnny, or you can call him Junior, but you don't have to call him Johnson!! I'm sorry. I couldn't resist!



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1. Courtney Thorne-Smith - The real female Ted McGinley. She sucks the life out of every series she's ever been on.
2. Andy Richter - Three-time sitcom loser, four if you count Conan's show.
3. David Spade - One of the unfunniest men on the planet, he should have never been allowed to do "8 Simple Rules".
4. Any one of the Wayans brothers. "In Living Color" was a great show, mainly because of Jim Carrey. Everything they've done since has sucked.
5. All of the "Seinfeld" alumni. They're better off staying home and counting their residuals.
I woudn't consider David Spade to be a "serial show killer" since he had (after his stint on SNL) pretty decent runs on Just Shoot Me and Rules of Engagement.

Say what you will about According to Jim, but since that show lasted I believe 9 years, that wouldn't necessarily make Courtney Thorne Smith a "show killer". In other to qualify for such a title, either the show has to be short-lived, or said actor/actress' arrival coincided w/ the show jumping the shark. According to Jim was one of those shows that lasted a long time despite not a lot of people actually admitting to liking it in the first place.

Maybe I would agree w/ you in regards to the Seinfeld argument if it weren't for the fact that Julia-Louis Dreyfuss eventually had decent runs on The New Adventures of Old Christine and now Veep.

How about Della Reese as the "godmother" of show killers as argued by TV Party a long time ago:
http://www.tvparty.com/mysdella.html
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The first person to come to my mind was Ted McGinley(Happy Days, Love Boat, etc) Poor Ted...........
I wouldn't list Ted as a serial show killer, he's more like the closer. His shows he closed lasted 4 seasons with him. Imo 4 seasons or more is not a show killer, he can't be held responsible for a show that is already worn out. He was also a good addition to Married with Children. A show killer is the kid they added who didn't work out and they promptly got rid of him.
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I wouldn't list Ted as a serial show killer, he's more like the closer. His shows he closed lasted 4 seasons with him. Imo 4 seasons or more is not a show killer, he can't be held responsible for a show that is already worn out. He was also a good addition to Married with Children. A show killer is the kid they added who didn't work out and they promptly got rid of him.
You're right but whenever Ted gets hired you know a series is on its last legs.I wonder why he never got a series of his own. He sure payed his dues!
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You're right but whenever Ted gets hired you know a series is on its last legs.I wonder why he never got a series of his own. He sure payed his dues!
He was the male lead in Hope & Faith for 3 years.
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It’s disheartening news, as Mission Control sounded like a nice offbeat series for NBC to win some laughs with. Executive produced by Adam McKay and Will Ferrell, with a script from It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia writer David Hornsby, the workplace comedy was to be a heightened story in the vein of Anchorman. Ritter would have played a strong-willed woman in the 1960s that enters a battle of the sexes (and a race to the moon) with a macho astronaut played by Tommy Dewey (The Mindy Project). Also set to star were Leah Renee (Satisfaction) and a Better Off Ted reunion for actors Jonathan Slavin and Malcolm Barrett.

The question, said less sarcastically this time, is still how Mission Control got canned before it even had a chance to air. According to THR, a lot of it had to do with casting issues. Smallville’s Michael Rosenbaum was set to star, but he dropped out of the project soon after NBC picked it up for series. There were apparently problems finding people to fill in the rest of the supporting roles, so NBC decided to cut all ties and set it loose.

Mission Control was set to be a midseason addition to the NBC lineup, along with the final season of Parks and Rec and other new series. It seems there would still be enough time to bring this thing together before its proposed premiere date, but I have no idea what else may have been going on behind the scenes. Farrell and McKay’s production company Gary Sanchez is also behind NBC’s Bad Judge, a series that also saw its share of problems prior to debuting.

Ritter’s ABC comedy Don’t Trust the B in Apartment 23 had a rather rude awakening last year when ABC dumped it after a schedule switch, leaving the remaining episodes to stream online. She also starred in Veronica Mars, Gravity and a handful of pilots that never got picked up. Has there been a vast anti-Krysten Ritter conspiracy happening in TV land for the past decade?

Mission Control is hardly the first series to get prematurely cancelled this TV season. NBC was already guilty of it earlier this year when they pulled the plug on the Wizard of Ox-themed series Emerald City. Before that, Fox yanked the epic fantasy Hieroglyph from its schedule. All three of these shows sound more promising than some of the new shows that have started up. Some other network should look into Mission Control and see if it’s worth putting in their tractor beams.
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Matthew Perry - "Studio 60 and Sunset Strip," "Mr. Sunshine", and "Go-On"

He has the Odd Couple remake coming on CBS midseason. Let's see how that does.
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My top show-killers list:


1. Courtney Thorne-Smith - The real female Ted McGinley. She sucks the life out of every series she's ever been on.
2. Andy Richter - Three-time sitcom loser, four if you count Conan's show.
3. David Spade - One of the unfunniest men on the planet, he should have never been allowed to do "8 Simple Rules".
4. Any one of the Wayans brothers. "In Living Color" was a great show, mainly because of Jim Carrey. Everything they've done since has sucked.
5. All of the "Seinfeld" alumni. They're better off staying home and counting their residuals.

David Spade???

Rules of Engagement and Just Shoot me both lasted a while.
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