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studd911 · 04-08-2014, 09:40 PM

Does Anybody Feel Confident That All Of The Music Will Be On Season 5 dvd including all of the songs that the band did i pray and hope that CBS will not screw this dvd up like they did season 2 that would be a tragic and the late Tom Bosely AKA Mr. C would be rolling on over in his grave and if God forbids that happens with everything being cut i rather not see them continue on with the series and im not trying too be funny just honest

studd911 · 04-10-2014, 07:10 PM

i looked at all of the original music scores that was on tv.com that was affilated with happy days season 5 i hope that what i ha reviewed is on the dvd

Colonel Hogan · 04-11-2014, 06:34 AM

Not that any of us were expecting uncut episodes, considering what they did with Seasons 2-4 and the fact that this is CBS, a studio well-known for cutting music and even scenes containing it.

If the CBS Press Release that HTF posted is correct, these episodes are going to be cut much worse than I even imagined. The press release states that the set is only 622 minutes. To be complete, considering the number of episodes, this set would have to be roughly 679-688 minutes. It's simple math.

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/topi...-fifth-season/

Season 5 had 26 episodes. The first episode was 1-hour, that being the Hollywood episode. The 30-minute conclusion aired the following week. In syndication, "Hollywood" is broken into 3 parts. To make the math simpler, consider the season to be 27 episodes, if you split the first episode in two. Divide 622 minutes by 27 and you get only 23:04 minutes per episode!! Badly cut...

If you don't like it that way, allow 49:30-51:00 for the 1-hour episode, subtract that from 622, and then divide the remainder by 25. I gave the 1-hour episode the benefit of the doubt and plugged it in at low run time at 49:30 for the calculation, although that's a hair low for the era. Either way, it again worked out to an average of over 2 minutes missing per episode, considering the era. TV sitcoms were still averaging over 25 minutes well into the 80's and around 25:10-25:30 in '77-'78.

A 30-minute sitcom of this era('77-'78) should be averaging around 25:20-25:35 per episode. If you watch DVD sets of shows known to be uncut on DVD, you'll see the run times are extremely consistent as well. There is no 1-2 minute fluctuation unless something is cut. Usually they're within 5-20 seconds of each other. You can verify this by checking the uncut episodes from Happy Days season 4, the L&S episodes that are uncut, and Seasons 3-5 of Three's Company, among many, many other examples.

So, on average, these episodes are missing over 2 minutes each. However, not every episode will likely be missing footage. I hope. What can likely be extrapolated from this is that the episodes with Suzy Quattro music and the Valentine's episode are cut badly, unless there are many episodes this season with lots of popular music and covers.

Either way, sad. It's a shame what music rights issues have done to TV on DVD.

Edit-Apparently, the original release info was wrong. Another member, JH23, has the set, and it clocks in at 662 minutes, not 622.

studd911 · 04-11-2014, 10:07 AM

All im saying is that CBS Paramount will fans not to buy there product because if a show like HD is popular then it should be featured with all of the music and seeing that we have waited along time again that will be a sad day if they showed the series with everything cut and as i said to you previousely that without music is screws up the scenes they screwed up season 2 and we all saw the results of what happened which put so much of pressure on them to make sure that season 3 and 4 had the music intact they messed this dvd up knowing that we have waited a long time then i rather not see them putting any more of the dvds out because of there lack of interest and anybody will tell you that if you are going to show or sell a product you have to have everything including its just me expressing how i feel and to be honest this is what concerns me about studios they rather put dvds out there without showing anything nor giving there fans of what they do not want this is why i thank God for outside studies like Shout Factory Millscreek and starvest Time because they know what fans want and i hope that in the near future that CBS will partner with them to show the series the way that it needed to be shown

04-08-2014, 09:40 PM	#1
studd911 Member Senior Member Join Date: Aug 21, 2004 Posts: 1,285	Does Anybody Feel Confident That All Of The Music Will Be On Season 5 Does Anybody Feel Confident That All Of The Music Will Be On Season 5 dvd including all of the songs that the band did i pray and hope that CBS will not screw this dvd up like they did season 2 that would be a tragic and the late Tom Bosely AKA Mr. C would be rolling on over in his grave and if God forbids that happens with everything being cut i rather not see them continue on with the series and im not trying too be funny just honest

04-11-2014, 06:34 AM	#3
Colonel Hogan Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Oct 22, 2004 Posts: 100	Edited Episodes Without a Doubt Not that any of us were expecting uncut episodes, considering what they did with Seasons 2-4 and the fact that this is CBS, a studio well-known for cutting music and even scenes containing it. If the CBS Press Release that HTF posted is correct, these episodes are going to be cut much worse than I even imagined. The press release states that the set is only 622 minutes. To be complete, considering the number of episodes, this set would have to be roughly 679-688 minutes. It's simple math. http://www.hometheaterforum.com/topi...-fifth-season/ Season 5 had 26 episodes. The first episode was 1-hour, that being the Hollywood episode. The 30-minute conclusion aired the following week. In syndication, "Hollywood" is broken into 3 parts. To make the math simpler, consider the season to be 27 episodes, if you split the first episode in two. Divide 622 minutes by 27 and you get only 23:04 minutes per episode!! Badly cut... If you don't like it that way, allow 49:30-51:00 for the 1-hour episode, subtract that from 622, and then divide the remainder by 25. I gave the 1-hour episode the benefit of the doubt and plugged it in at low run time at 49:30 for the calculation, although that's a hair low for the era. Either way, it again worked out to an average of over 2 minutes missing per episode, considering the era. TV sitcoms were still averaging over 25 minutes well into the 80's and around 25:10-25:30 in '77-'78. A 30-minute sitcom of this era('77-'78) should be averaging around 25:20-25:35 per episode. If you watch DVD sets of shows known to be uncut on DVD, you'll see the run times are extremely consistent as well. There is no 1-2 minute fluctuation unless something is cut. Usually they're within 5-20 seconds of each other. You can verify this by checking the uncut episodes from Happy Days season 4, the L&S episodes that are uncut, and Seasons 3-5 of Three's Company, among many, many other examples. So, on average, these episodes are missing over 2 minutes each. However, not every episode will likely be missing footage. I hope. What can likely be extrapolated from this is that the episodes with Suzy Quattro music and the Valentine's episode are cut badly, unless there are many episodes this season with lots of popular music and covers. Either way, sad. It's a shame what music rights issues have done to TV on DVD. Edit-Apparently, the original release info was wrong. Another member, JH23, has the set, and it clocks in at 662 minutes, not 622.
	Last edited by Colonel Hogan; 05-19-2014 at 11:55 PM.

04-10-2014, 07:10 PM	#2
studd911 Member Senior Member Join Date: Aug 21, 2004 Posts: 1,285	i looked at all of the original music scores that was on tv.com that was affilated with happy days season 5 i hope that what i ha reviewed is on the dvd

04-11-2014, 10:07 AM	#4
studd911 Member Senior Member Join Date: Aug 21, 2004 Posts: 1,285	All im saying is that CBS Paramount will fans not to buy there product because if a show like HD is popular then it should be featured with all of the music and seeing that we have waited along time again that will be a sad day if they showed the series with everything cut and as i said to you previousely that without music is screws up the scenes they screwed up season 2 and we all saw the results of what happened which put so much of pressure on them to make sure that season 3 and 4 had the music intact they messed this dvd up knowing that we have waited a long time then i rather not see them putting any more of the dvds out because of there lack of interest and anybody will tell you that if you are going to show or sell a product you have to have everything including its just me expressing how i feel and to be honest this is what concerns me about studios they rather put dvds out there without showing anything nor giving there fans of what they do not want this is why i thank God for outside studies like Shout Factory Millscreek and starvest Time because they know what fans want and i hope that in the near future that CBS will partner with them to show the series the way that it needed to be shown