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MegtheEgg86 · 01-03-2014, 04:48 AM

Was thinking about this case today and found this information on the UM wiki:

In 1993, Mario's body was exhumed and a new autopsy found enough evidence to prove that he was murdered. Soon after, a police officer named Jose Antonio Verduzco Flores was arrested, convicted of his murder and sentenced to eight and a half years in prison. The conviction was overturned four months later and he was released. Mario Amado's murder remains unresolved, although many assume that Flores was the killer.

So then, I found these articles:

http://articles.latimes.com/1993-05-...olice-officers

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/BERMAN...SE.-a083933972

The second article states that inmates testified they observed Amado being beaten after he became belligerent while demanding to make a phone call (he was collared on a drunk and disorderly in the first place). This contradicts what Joe Amado claims he was told by authorities, that all the inmates were asleep at the time of Mario's death. The inmates also claimed that the officer who was eventually convicted was NOT the man that beat Amado in the cell.

So, I suppose I wonder: provided the inmates are telling the truth, was Flores framed? Was he equally as involved and culpable as this other officer? Or was he simply in the wrong place, at the wrong time, in the wrong uniform?

I do think Mario was murdered, and I am glad that Joe Amado fought as hard as he did to get his brother's death re-investigated. But if someone may have ended up being set up as a fall guy in the midst of all this, that's really not cool.

Additionally, I didn't particularly relish Joe Amado's wish to "ruin the lives" of other people (regardless of whatever they may have done). Reading through these articles, his attitude appears to have remained consistent. He is "not happy" with Flores being the only individual arrested. He is "not happy" with Flores' initial sentence. He is never happy with anything. It might be somewhat understandable, but it's tiresome and sad.

TheCars1986 · 01-06-2014, 07:56 PM

Good finds! It does seem like the guard who was tried and convicted could have been framed. I see no reason as to why the inmates would lie to help protect a guard. It's pretty obvious that Mario was murdered at that jail, and I doubt that the case will ever be solved unfortunately.

Hambone2421 · 08-25-2016, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MegtheEgg86

Additionally, I didn't particularly relish Joe Amado's wish to "ruin the lives" of other people (regardless of whatever they may have done). Reading through these articles, his attitude appears to have remained consistent. He is "not happy" with Flores being the only individual arrested. He is "not happy" with Flores' initial sentence. He is never happy with anything. It might be somewhat understandable, but it's tiresome and sad.

I apologize for bumping an older thread but, excellent find with these articles, Meg!

I just saw the segment again recently and I will have to respectfully disagree with your analysis in the quoted section. I can understand his anger at being lied to when it was clear that the Mexican authorities covered up a murder by claiming he hung himself. Honestly though, I feel like Joe didn't think much would happen so his way of venting was to say what he did on UM, hoping that they heard it.

Its terrible that nothing else has happened with the case. With all the time that has passed, I doubt anything else comes of this.

DALLASTEXAN!! · 08-25-2016, 05:44 PM

I understand his anger but I agree with meg that other innocent people should not be blamed only the perps should. It doesn't make sense for the innocent to blame the innocent. Sometimes in victim situations people want justice so bad that they don't always care who gets blamed. It is a very sensitive topic. It's a lot easier when you have a clear suspect with clear evidence that you can go after. I don't recall that being the case here and that's unfortunate because it looks like a cover up.

The one thing about The USA as much as we complain about our justice system...in a case like this you see that in other countries we are not granted the same rights and it makes me appreciate what we do have(not just focus on the negative). If someone is beaten to death by law enforcement here it becomes a national issue. we have a long way to go to educate ourselves on our own laws. But if one travels abroad especially to Mexico where their justice system can be very inconsistent...one should be very cautious even in resort areas.

Hambone2421 · 08-26-2016, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DALLASTEXAN!!

I understand his anger but I agree with meg that other innocent people should not be blamed only the perps should. It doesn't make sense for the innocent to blame the innocent. Sometimes in victim situations people want justice so bad that they don't always care who gets blamed. It is a very sensitive topic. It's a lot easier when you have a clear suspect with clear evidence that you can go after. I don't recall that being the case here and that's unfortunate because it looks like a cover up.

The one thing about The USA as much as we complain about our justice system...in a case like this you see that in other countries we are not granted the same rights and it makes me appreciate what we do have(not just focus on the negative). If someone is beaten to death by law enforcement here it becomes a national issue. we have a long way to go to educate ourselves on our own laws. But if one travels abroad especially to Mexico where their justice system can be very inconsistent...one should be very cautious even in resort areas.

I agree with that. I'm just saying that I did not have a problem with him saying that since his life was ruined by the killer(s), he wasn't going to stop until he ruined their lives. I didn't feel like he was saying that he wanted to ruin the lives of innocent people.

DALLASTEXAN!! · 08-27-2016, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Hambone2421

I agree with that. I'm just saying that I did not have a problem with him saying that since his life was ruined by the killer(s), he wasn't going to stop until he ruined their lives. I didn't feel like he was saying that he wanted to ruin the lives of innocent people.

Oh ok I gotya. misread your post...

While I do not know that I side with him or not, I can see where some of his emotions may have been fueled by the scenario in which the killers got away without a proper punishment in his eyes.

01-03-2014, 04:48 AM	#1
MegtheEgg86 Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Jun 19, 2008 Location: The Volunteer State Posts: 5,156	Mario Amado Was thinking about this case today and found this information on the UM wiki: In 1993, Mario's body was exhumed and a new autopsy found enough evidence to prove that he was murdered. Soon after, a police officer named Jose Antonio Verduzco Flores was arrested, convicted of his murder and sentenced to eight and a half years in prison. The conviction was overturned four months later and he was released. Mario Amado's murder remains unresolved, although many assume that Flores was the killer. So then, I found these articles: http://articles.latimes.com/1993-05-...olice-officers http://www.thefreelibrary.com/BERMAN...SE.-a083933972 The second article states that inmates testified they observed Amado being beaten after he became belligerent while demanding to make a phone call (he was collared on a drunk and disorderly in the first place). This contradicts what Joe Amado claims he was told by authorities, that all the inmates were asleep at the time of Mario's death. The inmates also claimed that the officer who was eventually convicted was NOT the man that beat Amado in the cell. So, I suppose I wonder: provided the inmates are telling the truth, was Flores framed? Was he equally as involved and culpable as this other officer? Or was he simply in the wrong place, at the wrong time, in the wrong uniform? I do think Mario was murdered, and I am glad that Joe Amado fought as hard as he did to get his brother's death re-investigated. But if someone may have ended up being set up as a fall guy in the midst of all this, that's really not cool. Additionally, I didn't particularly relish Joe Amado's wish to "ruin the lives" of other people (regardless of whatever they may have done). Reading through these articles, his attitude appears to have remained consistent. He is "not happy" with Flores being the only individual arrested. He is "not happy" with Flores' initial sentence. He is never happy with anything. It might be somewhat understandable, but it's tiresome and sad.
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01-06-2014, 07:56 PM	#2
TheCars1986 #VLSKMS Forum Fanatic Join Date: Nov 22, 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 8,606	Good finds! It does seem like the guard who was tried and convicted could have been framed. I see no reason as to why the inmates would lie to help protect a guard. It's pretty obvious that Mario was murdered at that jail, and I doubt that the case will ever be solved unfortunately.

08-25-2016, 05:44 PM	#4
DALLASTEXAN!! Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Dec 31, 2007 Location: Devil's Backbone Posts: 3,138	I understand his anger but I agree with meg that other innocent people should not be blamed only the perps should. It doesn't make sense for the innocent to blame the innocent. Sometimes in victim situations people want justice so bad that they don't always care who gets blamed. It is a very sensitive topic. It's a lot easier when you have a clear suspect with clear evidence that you can go after. I don't recall that being the case here and that's unfortunate because it looks like a cover up. The one thing about The USA as much as we complain about our justice system...in a case like this you see that in other countries we are not granted the same rights and it makes me appreciate what we do have(not just focus on the negative). If someone is beaten to death by law enforcement here it becomes a national issue. we have a long way to go to educate ourselves on our own laws. But if one travels abroad especially to Mexico where their justice system can be very inconsistent...one should be very cautious even in resort areas.