What's With All The Hatred Towards Laura Winslow??

[nicole7477]

It's been 15 years since the cancellation of Family Matters, and to this day, some people still don't believe that Steve and Laura should be together. Nobody is jumping on Cory and Topanga getting together. Nobody is jumping on Ross and Rachel getting together. Nobody is jumping on Dwayne and Whitley getting together. Why is it a problem when Steve and Laura get together even though they have a history together? Why are they so hellbent wanting Steve and Myra to get married? It is because people are judging Laura Winslow based on how she was to Steve in Season 1-6. But people fail to realize that once Steve got steady with Myra, Steve stop being a stalker, and it gives Laura a break from Steve chasing her, and now she can put her guard down a little more, and she's more comfortable around Steve unlike the previous seasons. I like Laura Winslow because she proves that you don't have to be light skinned to be beautiful. And I see a lot of negative comments about Laura Winslow, and I don't appreciate it. Laura Winslow is an example for little black girls to look up to since there's hardly any blacks girls on TV that look like them. Yes, Laura was shallow, but it changed in later years as she matured and gave Steve a chance. I believe that Steve and Laura looked good together. That's my opinion. Yes, she rejected him, but at the end of the day, she chose Steve Urkel for marriage, and not Stephan. Laura Winslow was very young when she rejected Steve. When you are a young girl, you are going to be superficial. I don't see you people jumping on Maxine for being superficial, and I think that she's more superficial than Laura, especially when Laura told Maxine about her having feelings for Steve. It's a good thing that Steve and Laura got together. They started off as friends before they were lovers. I don't understand why you people hating on Laura for turning down Steve. Laura changed in later seasons when it comes to Steve. Now I can say that she was a bitch to him in Seasons 1-6, but in Seasons 7-9, she was more comfortable around Steve, and then they became engaged to be married. People want Myra to be Steve's wife because of the way she looks. Now don't get me wrong. Myra is a very pretty woman, but so is Laura. The reason why they also said that Myra, Maxine, Greta are prettier because they're lighter than Laura, and you know how it is when it comes to light skin vs. dark skin. The darker woman is always perceived as less attractive whether if she has a pretty face or not. Myra did accept Steve for who he was, but she's very bossy, pushy, mean, jealous, arrogant, conceited, obsessive, clingy, needy, desperate, and all of that, and most men don't find that attractive no matter how she looks. But I guess to some of these colorstruck negros, they will overlook that simply because she's light skinned. That's why I'm glad that Steve chose Laura at the end. A lot of people are saying that what does Steve see in Laura after how Laura treated him in their younger years. Steve sees the future in Laura. She may be like that now, but down the road, she will sing a different tune, and Steve predicted it, and it came true. At the end of the series, they're engaged to be married. A lot of people hate on Laura more than Steve, especially in this board. You have to be in Laura's shoes. If you always have somebody stalking you and forcing their feelings on you, meddling in other people's business, clumsy, or what have you, you will feel the same way that Laura feels. It's funny how nobody jumps on Lisa Turtle dissing Screech. I think that Lisa was worse towards Screech than Laura was towards Steve The reason why they let that pass is because of the way she looks. Lisa Turtle is brown skinned, but she's also a mixed-race woman. So in their minds, how dare Laura turning down Steve because in their minds, she's not that much to look at because she's dark and unmixed. She looks like a regular black girl. If Laura was light skinned or mixed with another race, people wouldn't jump on Laura so hard about rejecting Steve. Yes she was mean to him, but not as mean as Lisa. Laura is not an ugly girl. Just because she doesn't fit the white man's beauty standard doesn't mean that she's ugly. What does bother me though is that it took Laura 7-9 seasons to fall for Steve, but I guess it's all in the writer's plan. They started off as friends and it evolved to something more. I think that Myra was the one that soften Steve's stalking behavior to the point of Laura wanting to be around him more. Steve told Myra on Season 5 episode 1 that if Laura return those same feelings that he had for her then he will leave her, and four seasons later, that's exactly what he did, and that's when Myra became the same psychotic, obsessive woman that she was on Season 5. So the writers of the show didn't make Myra the bad guy because she was like that before season 9. I think that the writers did the right thing. Stop hating on Steve and Laura, especially Laura. It's not Laura's fault that Steve loved her more than Myra. A lot of you are saying that Steve is crazy for dumping Myra for Laura, but Steve had feelings for Laura even though he went steady with Myra. Myra is a beautiful woman, but you don't have to trash Laura's looks to justify it. Laura is beautiful too in her own way. She's far from ugly, especially in season 3-9. Steve and Laura forever. LEAVE LAURA WINSLOW ALONE!!!!

Here's a video I made about this subject. Enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUI4Q_iHDt4

[rpm31]

True, 95% of the time, Laura's b*tchiness toward Steve was justified early on, because he stalked and harassed her plenty before season 5, and part of her being able to get very close to him was because Myra demanded Steve's loyalty to her. On the OTHER HAND, Myra ALSO got Laura JEALOUS, but we just didn't notice that, because the writers made Myra even more jealous of Laura to cover up how jealous Laura was that Steve would pay attention to another girl other than her. While Laura did not want Steve early on, it was almost like she didn't want anyone else to have him either, because she didn't want him to stop doing sweet things for her, which she was generally grateful for, even in the early seasons.

True, Steve DID tell Myra if Laura ever fell in love with him, he'd leave her, and Myra accepted, BUT, he dropped that stipulation when he agreed to go steady with her in season 6's "Paradise Bluff," BUT that was all a lie (probably to defuse Myra's controlling nature). As for Myra being very controlling of Steve, that was really Steve's fault for continuing to woo Laura despite having someone who loved him for who he was from the very beginning. Myra was the only person in the whole world who loved Steve more than Stefan at first - for goodness sake's, even Steve's OWN PARENTS loved Stefan a lot more than they loved Steve!! I'll bet if Steve told Myra from the very beginning, "Screw Laura, I love you," Myra would have remained the sweet and intelligent girl he was instantly attracted to when they first met, while Laura would have been the one to become clingy and jealous.

If the writers had always intended for Steve and Laura to end up together, they should have ended Myra's appearances after season 5's "Nunsense," and they should have made Stefan a one-time character in "Dr. Urkel and Mr. Cool." They were sure right to not have Laura end up marrying Stefan though, because if she had, he would probably have four chicks on the side and cheat on her a year into their marriage - after all, Stefan was a ladies' man, and you can't tie a ladies' man down.

[nicole7477]

rpm, I feel you, but even if Steve did became steady with Myra, it didn't stop him from wanting Laura. It only stopped him from stalking her, that's it, but he still had a heart towards Laura. He only agree to go steady with Myra because she demanded him to, and he couldn't have Laura, but like you said, it's a lie because he only stayed with Myra until Laura changed her mind, and that's exactly what happened. I think that Laura did a good job for chosing Steve at the end though. I think that Steve and Laura made a good couple. That's my opinion.

[rpm31]

When Myra accepted Steve's terms, she obviously hoped he would forget about Laura and move on to her, which seemed like a pretty safe bet at the time. After all, at the time, Steve's chances of ever getting with Laura were worse than the odds of winning a Mega Millions jackpot, while Steve's chances of learning to love Myra for who SHE was despite HER faults (because Myra loved Steve despite him being an annoying clumsy nerd) seemed like nearly a sure bet. Steve gambled on a billion to one odds and won, while Myra gambled on what should have been a sure thing and lost, and Myra did not think that was fair, especially when Laura didn't show 1/10000th the affection for Steve that Myra did. Whereas if Steve already chose Myra over Laura when Laura finally realized she had feelings for him, Laura would have been in NO position to b*tch over it, especially since it was her that pushed Steve into dating and going steady with Myra in the first place, so it would have been poetic justice for Steve to tell Laura that she had her chance, but she's too late.

Steve shouldn't have lied to Myra like that. That made him a really bad boyfriend. He should have just cut her loose in "Paradise Bluff" if he honestly could never forget Laura. Then again, if he HAD cut her loose, she probably wouldn't have taken it lying down and would have given both him and Laura the hell for what happened.

[nicole7477]

I disagree when you said that Laura didn't show any affection at all. There were a lot of times that she show some affection, maybe not in a romantic sense at the time, but to say that she didn't do anything to deserve Steve adoration is BS to me. There are women that didn't do anything to deserve adoration, but it didn't stop men from falling in love with them. Maybe there's something in Laura that Steve liked about Laura that he didn't like in Myra. Myra was too busy wanting to **** Steve. Steve was the type of person that waits until he gets married to have sex. And speaking of Steve and Laura getting together, I don't think that's sudden. I think that they make a perfect pair. Yes, it will be better if Laura went out with Steve in the 6 or 7th season. If they went together in the 2 or 3rd season, the show wouldn't be too special. I believe in saving the best for last. I believe that if you love someone with all you heart, you will fight to get that person, and that's what Steve did. It's a shame that he led Myra on. Him going steady with Myra DID NOT, I repeat, DID NOT stop him from wanting Laura. He just didn't chase after and stalk Laura as much, and it's probably because of Myra's possessive and jealous nature. Nothing more.

[rpm31]

Yes, Laura DID care about Steve even though she clearly didn't want to go out with him, as did the entire Winslow family, but she was more like a sister to him. Myra, on the other hand, was clearly NOT scared of her reputation like Laura was, and that alone should have changed Steve's mind about loving Laura more than Myra. Myra was willing to give up on having ANY other friends if that meant she could be with Steve and that was something Laura clearly did NOT want to do, but yeah, in a way you're right, Nicole, as one gets older, that becomes less important. Also, one could argue Myra didn't even have a reputation to lose to begin with, as she was as geeky as Steve despite not looking the part, so a "normal" guy like Eddie would never be interested in her, and that's why she could love Steve the way no other woman could.

[nicole7477]

RPM, like I've said earlier. She may not liked him in a romantic sense BUT she did have SOME feelings about Steve because if she didn't, she wouldn't be so jealous when she saw Steve with Susie on Season 2 and Myra on Season 4-8. At the time, she was more like a sister to him, you're right, but Steve looked at her as more than a sister. They were friends first before they became lovers, and I think that's the reason why I think that their romantic relationship is legit.

Yes, if Myra wouldn't made herself so easy, possessive, jealous, making fun of Laura, and what have you, Steve would chosen Myra over Laura, and Myra wouldn't have to demand Steve to go steady with her. It would happen naturally without her being forceful.

I think that Season 9 picked up where Season 7's "Dream Date" left off. In my opinion, it will make sense for Steve and Laura to start a romantic relationship after that episode. To me, that's bad writing. They should've hit it off AFTER the Dream Date episode, and they would've dated and get engaged in Season 8, and then get married in Season 9 instead of having that wack ass Lost in Space series finale. That would've made sense to me.

I have to blame the writers for this. After that Dream Date episode, they should start dating and they both will break it off with their lovers. Bad timing.

Myra was not a normal teenager like Laura to the point of getting through peer pressure of not dating a geek because of popularity. If I was Laura, I wouldn't give a DAMN about my reputation. I will STILL date Steve. I think Steve looks better than Stephan, and that's another thing. I love Laura. She's one of my favorite characters in that show, but what I don't like about Laura is that how are you going to tell Steve that you don't want him, but want him to go to the transformation chamber and change into Stephan. To me, Steve and Stephan are the same person. Stephan is just Steve without his glasses. If you didn't like Steve, then you wouldn't try to change him into Stephan. So basically, on the down low, she liked Steve, but don't want to own up to it because of her reputation at the time. I'm glad that she grew out of that in later seasons though. As you get older, those things are of less importance. It's a good thing that she made a wise choice, then she will end up losing Steve forever with Myra while she married Stephan who's a ladies man, and will cheat on her left and right, and probably beat her ass. It's a shame that it took her a long time.

I wish I have a husband like Steve, then I wouldn't go through what I went through. The moral of the story is to choose wisely WHILE YOU'RE YOUNG!!!!!

[rpm31]

Nicole, you DO have a good point about season 9 picking off where "Dream Date" left. In addition, it would have been more realistic for Laura to have to choose between Steve and Curtis (remember, Steve had not yet cloned himself by "Dream Date"), and not Steve and Stefan, since Steve and Stefan were really the same person (and in fact, in a fake season 10, Stefan actually blends back into Steve after Steve makes a horrifying discovery his cloning device did not make permanent clones, as some other items he cloned were fading away as well).

Laura actually would have lost Steve forever to some random Russian chick, not Myra (unless Myra followed him to Russia LOL), as Steve was willing to move to Russia near his parents just so he'd never have to see Laura again, as that would just hurt him too much if he had to see Laura married to his clone.

That's also funny you mention that if Myra had not been so controlling of Steve, then Steve may have had a change of heart, because in this fan fiction story, which actually takes place AFTER Steve and Laura's first official date in the ninth season, he and Myra are both truly repentant for how they acted toward each other in the ninth season, and Steve's heart FINALLY does decide it truly belongs to Myra:

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/4710466...hange-of-Heart

That is actually how the show should have ended, but it could not, because of the real life issue of Michelle Thomas having stomach cancer, and Michelle wanting to move on into soap operas anyway.

[nicole7477]

Family Matters always have some bad writing technique. LMAO@Myra following him to Russia. That's funny. I think that Family Matter jumped the shark when Steve was cloned and one of them turned to Stephan permanently, so they say. That doesn't make any sense. Stephan was Steve without glasses. Why don't you fall for the real thing EARLIER? That's what troubled me about Laura. If you didn't like Steve AT ALL, you wouldn't even DREAM of making Steve turn into anything. So she liked Steve, probably more than just a friend, but because of her popularity in high school, she don't want to admit it or she will lose her friends and what have you.

I do give Myra some props for accepting Steve for who he was EARLY, not until they hit their 20s. What troubled me about Myra is the fact that she's TOO obsessed with Steve to the point of spying on him, sketching him naked, having all of his pictures all over her bedroom. She's jealous, possessive, bossy, needy, easy, clingy, controlling, pushy with or without the mention of Laura, and those attributes turned Steve off. Like I said earlier, if Myra was none of those things, they would've been married today. He chose Laura for the challenge because Laura didn't make herself easy, chasing him, and what have you. Most men like MYSTERY in women, and Myra, no matter how attractive she is, didn't make herself mysterious. It's like that in real life. And at the time when Laura wanted Steve as a friend only, Myra accused Laura for taking Steve away from her. She was being very mean and nasty to Laura, and this was around the time when she didn't want Steve romantically. It's not Laura's fault that Steve loved her more than Myra.


I like talking to you because you are not superficial. I understand what you're saying. You are not basing Laura and Myra on looks because you know that they are both beautiful women inside and out and any man will be lucky to have both of them. You look beyond the superficial. On Community all hip hop website, they were dogging Laura's looks by calling her ugly, and all the women from the show that they named who they think looked better than Laura are either light skinned or biracial. So basically, they are basing Laura's looks on her skin tone. I'm 36 years old, and I've been watching Family Matters since 1989, and back in the 90s, I heard a lot of people saying that Laura was pretty. It wasn't just Maxine or Myra. I heard that they all were beautiful. That website is very colorstruck. They always worship the light skinned and biracial chicks.


I don't think that Michelle Thomas' death have anything to do with the cancellation of Family Matters because she died 5 months after that. I think that the show should have ended with Steve and Laura getting MARRIED instead of having Steve in outer space. Trust me, we would like to see Steve and Myra together, but it didn't happen. As for me, I liked Steve and Laura's romantic relationship better because they started off as friends first. I think that Steve and Laura should've dated at the beginning of Season 8, engaged at the end of Season 8. Getting ready for the wedding at the beginning of Season 9, and they have their wedding at the end of Season 9. They will be no need for Season 10.


I don't think that Steve will have the change of heart because his heart chose Laura not Myra, so even if they do get back together, it will not be the same. You can't stay in a relationship with someone that doesn't love you. It's not healthy, so I hardly think that Steve will have a change of heart because Myra is not going to change. Now, if Myra didn't have those attributes, yes, they would be married at the end of the series. Trust me, the writers knew what they were doing in THAT part.

I think that the Steve and Laura pairing is legit because they have a history together from the beginning of the show to the end.

[rpm31]

Laura WAS wrong to ask Steve to change into Stefan for her again at the end of season 5, but Steve was equally stupid for actually going through with it. If I were Steve, I would have just told Laura off that she shouldn't ask me to change for her, and if she couldn't go out with me the way I am, then too bad. I guess, in a way, he did tell her that as Stefan in the second half of the season 6 opener, but then they forgot that in the Disney World episode, as Steve DID propose to Laura as Stefan in that episode and they WERE going to be married, until Myra showed up to make Laura feel guilty about it.

[nicole7477]

I think that Dr Urkel and Mr. Cool episode should've been a one time thing, and not a continual thing afterwards. That's when it jumped shark. Like I said earlier, I do believe that deep down inside, she really liked Steve as more than a friend, but she was too worry about what her friends and family say. That's the only part that turn me off about Laura. I'm glad that Steve stood up for himself at the Dream Date episode and tell her that he refused to change into Stephan, and she went with him nerdy and all. I think that's when they should start dating, and he will tell Myra that I'm with Laura, and I don't think that she will be TOO possessive like Season 5 and 9, and she will move on someone that will love her back. It was bad timing, but to each its own. You like Steve and Myra. I like Steve and Laura, and that's ok. I'm not going to hate you or debate you for it. Everybody is entitled to like what they like.

But at the end of the day, Laura did made a wise choice to choose Steve over Stephan though. I just wish she would've did it a season ago.

[Neutronman67]

It's not that people hate Laura but its the fact that she had a bad personality she blamed Eddie in season 5 or 6 for giving her doll away to charity how in the world was the guy suppose to know that was her childhood doll she played with when she was a little girl.

[nicole7477]

I never deny that Laura had a bad personality BACK THEN, but that was BACK THEN! And that episode that you are talking about was in Season 6, the Christmas episode, and Steve was the one that looked for that doll, and she was grateful. In later episodes, her attitude changed. In earlier episodes, you're absolutely right, she was a bitch. I be the first to say it, but you have to realize how old she was then. She was a TEENAGER, and most teenagers give in to peer pressure a lot, and she didn't want to date Steve because of her popularity in school. I wouldn't care if I be rejected by higher society. I will date Steve because he's such a sweetheart. He may be clumsy. People don't realize that those who were nerds in high school will be billionaires as they get older. The problem is people always judge the book by the cover. You know what, this website is a whole lot nicer to Laura Winslow than community.allhiphop. You should visit that site. They were clowning the way she looks more than her attitude, and she's not even ugly in the face. Ok, she may not be no Myra as far as looks is concerned, but she's not ugly. And they say that Maxine is fine as hell when I think that Maxine is average in the face, nothing special, but because she's LIGHT-SKINNED, they will call her a dime. Myra looks WAAAY better than Maxine face and all. These negros will call any mediocre-looking light skinned girl a dimepiece. Talk about colorism. That website always worship and gravitate towards light skinned or biracial women whether if she's ugly, average, or pretty. This website has nothing on community.allhiphop.

[nicole7477]

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[Neutronman67]

The producers are to blame for the Laura character being the typical sassy black girl lol, you are right nobody hates the Myra Monkhouse character because she was light skinned we got to meet her mother in part 2 of Disneyworld episode from 1995 dang i feel old i remember watching the episode when it first aired on TV back in 1995 that was over 18 years ago wow lol we get to see her mother she seemed to have the same personality like her daughter, we never got to see Myra's father on Family Matters maybe he was white, Myra looked nothing like her mother diff'rence in skin tone maybe she was mixed lol.