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wiseguy182 · 12-02-2013, 01:30 AM

Later on tonight (Monday night) 20/20 on ID will be airing an hour long program on the abduction of Jacob Wetterling. Though this was never on UM, it often gets attributed to UM and it's a very famous case. Check local listings for air times, I believe it airs a few times during the night. I will be recording it.

Steve W. · 12-02-2013, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by wiseguy182

Later on tonight (Monday night) 20/20 on ID will be airing an hour long program on the abduction of Jacob Wetterling. Though this was never on UM, it often gets attributed to UM and it's a very famous case. Check local listings for air times, I believe it airs a few times during the night. I will be recording it.

I thought I read something not too long ago where authorities were searching an older man's house in relation to this case: did they find Jacob Wetterling's remains or any other evidence that could tie the suspect to this case?

wiseguy182 · 12-02-2013, 09:25 AM

Wetterling has not been found, dead or alive. Some theories state that he could have been alive for a while after his abduction, although the same reports also state he was (it pains me to type this) sold into sexual slavery. I do recall something about them searching an older guy's backyard, but don't think anything ever came of it.

Nonetheless, it should be an interesting documentary.

TracyLynnS · 12-02-2013, 02:44 PM

I also vaguely remember something about police checking out a man's apartment (he's now deceased) and they found pictures of Jacob Wetterling, newspaper clippings about him, drawings the man had done of kids (prono type stuff), but they didn't think he was actually connected to the case.

Anyone remember something like that or am I thinking of a different case?

JenniferS. · 12-02-2013, 05:13 PM

The Jacob Wetterling story was on Missing Reward and Americas Most Wanted. There have been a lot of updates on this case. But nothing panned out. They did search a property of an older man who lived out in the woods in area were Jacob was taken He worked as a barber in town and had some fascination with missing kids and believe he himself to have been kidnapped. Though his shrink could find no proof of it. When he did not show up for work , he was found dead in his cabin. Heart attack. The cops searched his property and dug up the ground and found nothing. They tested all the kids thing found at his residence, odd kids shoes and some clothes. Nothing there either. The only thing he did have was a missing poster of Jacob and a recording of a news story on him. Which was why the search was prompted in the first place.

They have questioned the fella that lives in the house across were they boys were held up by the kidnapper. It was the garbage cans of this house that the kidnapper hid behind waiting for the kids. The fella that lives in house has talked to cops from the beginning telling them when he heard his dogs bark and about the two strange cars he saw driving buy his house. He was alone that night , as his parents he lives with went out and he is a teacher at the local school. Recently they interviewed him and searched his yard and barn and dug up the ground and found nothing. He was and may still be in a law suit with the cops , he is angered at their repeated investigations of him and treating him like a suspect. There was probably a settlement.

At one point a young man came forward scared saying he was raised buy a man and does not know were he came from and it was thought he maybe Jacob. DNA tests were done and he was not.

Wonder what they will say on the 20/20 special?

5353 · 12-03-2013, 06:42 PM

It's also reairing this Saturday morning in case you missed it.

JenniferS. · 12-04-2013, 01:47 AM

I watched it. Very interesting program. I have to make a correction in the info that I previously made,. The young fella who was thought to look like one of Jacobs age progressions by his co -workers. Gave finger prints not DNA. His finger prints did not match Jacobs. I read that Unsolved Mysteries turned down the family on doing a story on Jacob. What did they think his story would not give them enough ratings?

wiseguy182 · 12-04-2013, 10:05 AM

I know this case has been brought up a lot of times on the forum, but I don't think it's been actually discussed much. Other than the common knowledge that the boys were biking home with a movie from a convenience store, a masked gunman told them to ditch their bikes and lay down in a field, asked their ages, told Trevor Wetterling and Aaron Larson to run away, and then grabbed Jacob.

Here are some things from the 20/20 broadcast that aren't common knowledge

-The search for Jacob was the largest in Minnesota state history.

-Patty Wetterling, among other accomplishments, got the law passed that requires a community to be informed when a sex offender moves in to the neighborhood.

-Patty declined the boys request to go and get the movie. The father caught wind of it and approved it, without Patty's knowledge.

-They showed a picture of the road where Jacob was taken from. It is a long road, but in a desolate area. For the longest time, it was believed that the predator was from out of the area, but opinions have shifted to someone local. I think I agree with that because I get the sense the perp probably spotted the boys on their way to the store, and figured they would take the same route back. That might explain how he came from seemingly out of nowhere in the field. I feel that this was a crime of opportunity. He saw boys without an adult, at night, and took advantage. Jacob's father, Jerry, feels that Jacob may have been stalked for days beforehand, but I'm not sure I get the same sense.

I read elsewhere on the web that there were a lot of sex offenders in the area molesting children, including several priests, a Scoutmaster, teachers, and someone working with law enforcement.

SheRaaa · 12-05-2013, 11:33 PM

I watched this program when it aired the other night. Talk about the ultimate 80s nightmare -- kids on bikes going to the local convenience store to rent a VHS, boogey man pops out of nowhere and one kid completely disappears.

This case is just so haunting given the terrifying nature of the initial incident, coupled with the lack of evidence afterwards. Is Jacob alive? Or was his life taken immediately after the kidnapping? WHO was the masked man??

Also, did his disappearance have anything to do with another kid being molested in the same area around the same time? (That child escaped the car, and the molestor was never caught):

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...ing_jacob.html

Finally, did the disappearance have anything to do with the earlier disappearances of Johnny Gosch and/or Eugene Martin? Was there a child killer stalking that part of the Midwest in the 1980s?

wiseguy182 · 12-06-2013, 01:26 AM

Yes, I agree this is a particularly disturbing case. I have to think Jerry Wetterling made an error in judgement by allowing them to go out at dark and after 9, although there were 3 of them, so he probably figured they would be o.k. in a group.

I do believe the Wetterling case and the Cold Spring case are connected. The m.o. was the same, and I think the suspect sketch of Wetterling's abductor came from the Cold Spring victim, since nobody caught a glimpse of Jacob's abductor (he was wearing a mask.)

It's interesting you mention Johnny Gosch and Eugene Martin, as I remember posting earlier about how I thought those cases might be connected with Wetterlings. Also Marc James-Warren Allen

JenniferS. · 12-06-2013, 10:56 PM

Another update . This past summer investigators were investigating a suspect. A priest and camp councilor who has been arrested for molesting boys. One of his accusers stated the priest took him and showed him were Jacob was kidnapped at putting the priest under suspicion. Upon investigation that ruled him out as having anything to do with Jacobs abduction. He has an alibi he was with one of his victims out in the woods There was also another criminal who said he and his bother were from area and took Jacob. Said he used to ride bikes with Jacob. This was dismissed by cops as a ploy to get out of prison. Frankly the person who took Jacob did not know who the kids were he even had to ask their ages and make a decision as to who he was going to take. This obviously is not person who new any of the kids or hung out with them.

Janel "Jaycee" Miller · 10-29-2015, 08:12 PM

Here's another update (a person of interest has been named):

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/w...-case-34831828

WishfulDreamer · 10-29-2015, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Love A Good Mystery

Here's another update (a person of interest has been named):

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/w...-case-34831828

Saw this on my break and nearly jumped up and cheered. I'm really hoping they can tie him to the case and find some evidence on his property.

wiseguy182 · 10-30-2015, 01:36 AM

As you may have seen in another post of mine, I'm confident this is the guy. So happy for the entire Wetterling family tonight. They've waited a long time for answers, and I think now they are finally getting some.

And Jesus, what a pervert this Heinrich guy is. They also found videotapes of him secretly recording boys doing their everyday activities (riding bikes, getting the mail, etc).

There's always been a lot of debate as to whether or not a car was involved. I've always been under the impression there was a car because if there was not, then the perp would have had to been someone who lived right in that immediate area and it seems like LE would have caught him right away. Jared, who was attacked 9 months before Jacob, was forced into a car, driven elsewhere, assaulted, and then released.

I think he intended to do the same thing with Jacob, but something "went wrong."

Glad to know Heinrich is finally going to get what he has coming to him.

wiseguy182 · 11-05-2015, 04:59 AM

Props to the people who created that composite sketch way back when. It looks exactly like Heinrich, even though he has doubled in age since then. Jeannie Boylan would be proud.

Some more details are trickling out. Unfortunately none of them are good.

-Prior to taking off with Jacob, the perp fondled Aaron Larsen's (the friend's) genitals.

-During one of the Paynesville attacks, a boy shouted "You already got me!", before he was assaulted again.

-Heinrich would place a quarter on a staircase and wait for boys to pick it up so he could record shots of their rear.

And a few details from the book.

-On the way TO the convenience store, Aaron thought he heard a noise that sounded out of place, but decided not to say anything because he didn't want to scare Trevor, the youngest.

-Talk about creepy. The boys decided to rent a movie since there was nothing on t.v. that night. The Sunday night movie of the week was about a child molester who fondled young boys.

12-02-2013, 01:30 AM	#1
wiseguy182 Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Apr 11, 2006 Location: Wendy's salad bar Posts: 7,030	Programming Alert: Jacob Wetterling Later on tonight (Monday night) 20/20 on ID will be airing an hour long program on the abduction of Jacob Wetterling. Though this was never on UM, it often gets attributed to UM and it's a very famous case. Check local listings for air times, I believe it airs a few times during the night. I will be recording it.

12-02-2013, 09:25 AM	#3
wiseguy182 Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Apr 11, 2006 Location: Wendy's salad bar Posts: 7,030	Wetterling has not been found, dead or alive. Some theories state that he could have been alive for a while after his abduction, although the same reports also state he was (it pains me to type this) sold into sexual slavery. I do recall something about them searching an older guy's backyard, but don't think anything ever came of it. Nonetheless, it should be an interesting documentary.

12-02-2013, 02:44 PM	#4
TracyLynnS Don't Look Up Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 07, 2009 Posts: 3,107	I also vaguely remember something about police checking out a man's apartment (he's now deceased) and they found pictures of Jacob Wetterling, newspaper clippings about him, drawings the man had done of kids (prono type stuff), but they didn't think he was actually connected to the case. Anyone remember something like that or am I thinking of a different case?

12-02-2013, 05:13 PM	#5
JenniferS. Member Forum Regular Join Date: Dec 06, 2003 Posts: 519	The Jacob Wetterling story was on Missing Reward and Americas Most Wanted. There have been a lot of updates on this case. But nothing panned out. They did search a property of an older man who lived out in the woods in area were Jacob was taken He worked as a barber in town and had some fascination with missing kids and believe he himself to have been kidnapped. Though his shrink could find no proof of it. When he did not show up for work , he was found dead in his cabin. Heart attack. The cops searched his property and dug up the ground and found nothing. They tested all the kids thing found at his residence, odd kids shoes and some clothes. Nothing there either. The only thing he did have was a missing poster of Jacob and a recording of a news story on him. Which was why the search was prompted in the first place. They have questioned the fella that lives in the house across were they boys were held up by the kidnapper. It was the garbage cans of this house that the kidnapper hid behind waiting for the kids. The fella that lives in house has talked to cops from the beginning telling them when he heard his dogs bark and about the two strange cars he saw driving buy his house. He was alone that night , as his parents he lives with went out and he is a teacher at the local school. Recently they interviewed him and searched his yard and barn and dug up the ground and found nothing. He was and may still be in a law suit with the cops , he is angered at their repeated investigations of him and treating him like a suspect. There was probably a settlement. At one point a young man came forward scared saying he was raised buy a man and does not know were he came from and it was thought he maybe Jacob. DNA tests were done and he was not. Wonder what they will say on the 20/20 special?

12-03-2013, 06:42 PM	#6
5353 Call me Perm Frequent Poster Join Date: Jun 08, 2013 Posts: 152	It's also reairing this Saturday morning in case you missed it.

12-04-2013, 01:47 AM	#7
JenniferS. Member Forum Regular Join Date: Dec 06, 2003 Posts: 519	I watched it. Very interesting program. I have to make a correction in the info that I previously made,. The young fella who was thought to look like one of Jacobs age progressions by his co -workers. Gave finger prints not DNA. His finger prints did not match Jacobs. I read that Unsolved Mysteries turned down the family on doing a story on Jacob. What did they think his story would not give them enough ratings?

12-04-2013, 10:05 AM	#8
wiseguy182 Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Apr 11, 2006 Location: Wendy's salad bar Posts: 7,030	I know this case has been brought up a lot of times on the forum, but I don't think it's been actually discussed much. Other than the common knowledge that the boys were biking home with a movie from a convenience store, a masked gunman told them to ditch their bikes and lay down in a field, asked their ages, told Trevor Wetterling and Aaron Larson to run away, and then grabbed Jacob. Here are some things from the 20/20 broadcast that aren't common knowledge -The search for Jacob was the largest in Minnesota state history. -Patty Wetterling, among other accomplishments, got the law passed that requires a community to be informed when a sex offender moves in to the neighborhood. -Patty declined the boys request to go and get the movie. The father caught wind of it and approved it, without Patty's knowledge. -They showed a picture of the road where Jacob was taken from. It is a long road, but in a desolate area. For the longest time, it was believed that the predator was from out of the area, but opinions have shifted to someone local. I think I agree with that because I get the sense the perp probably spotted the boys on their way to the store, and figured they would take the same route back. That might explain how he came from seemingly out of nowhere in the field. I feel that this was a crime of opportunity. He saw boys without an adult, at night, and took advantage. Jacob's father, Jerry, feels that Jacob may have been stalked for days beforehand, but I'm not sure I get the same sense. I read elsewhere on the web that there were a lot of sex offenders in the area molesting children, including several priests, a Scoutmaster, teachers, and someone working with law enforcement.

12-05-2013, 11:33 PM	#9
SheRaaa Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Dec 30, 2009 Posts: 421	I watched this program when it aired the other night. Talk about the ultimate 80s nightmare -- kids on bikes going to the local convenience store to rent a VHS, boogey man pops out of nowhere and one kid completely disappears. This case is just so haunting given the terrifying nature of the initial incident, coupled with the lack of evidence afterwards. Is Jacob alive? Or was his life taken immediately after the kidnapping? WHO was the masked man?? Also, did his disappearance have anything to do with another kid being molested in the same area around the same time? (That child escaped the car, and the molestor was never caught): http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/...ing_jacob.html Finally, did the disappearance have anything to do with the earlier disappearances of Johnny Gosch and/or Eugene Martin? Was there a child killer stalking that part of the Midwest in the 1980s?

12-06-2013, 01:26 AM	#10
wiseguy182 Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Apr 11, 2006 Location: Wendy's salad bar Posts: 7,030	Yes, I agree this is a particularly disturbing case. I have to think Jerry Wetterling made an error in judgement by allowing them to go out at dark and after 9, although there were 3 of them, so he probably figured they would be o.k. in a group. I do believe the Wetterling case and the Cold Spring case are connected. The m.o. was the same, and I think the suspect sketch of Wetterling's abductor came from the Cold Spring victim, since nobody caught a glimpse of Jacob's abductor (he was wearing a mask.) It's interesting you mention Johnny Gosch and Eugene Martin, as I remember posting earlier about how I thought those cases might be connected with Wetterlings. Also Marc James-Warren Allen

12-06-2013, 10:56 PM	#11
JenniferS. Member Forum Regular Join Date: Dec 06, 2003 Posts: 519	Another update . This past summer investigators were investigating a suspect. A priest and camp councilor who has been arrested for molesting boys. One of his accusers stated the priest took him and showed him were Jacob was kidnapped at putting the priest under suspicion. Upon investigation that ruled him out as having anything to do with Jacobs abduction. He has an alibi he was with one of his victims out in the woods There was also another criminal who said he and his bother were from area and took Jacob. Said he used to ride bikes with Jacob. This was dismissed by cops as a ploy to get out of prison. Frankly the person who took Jacob did not know who the kids were he even had to ask their ages and make a decision as to who he was going to take. This obviously is not person who new any of the kids or hung out with them.

10-29-2015, 08:12 PM	#12
Janel "Jaycee" Miller Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Aug 19, 2010 Location: South Jersey Posts: 408	Here's another update (a person of interest has been named): http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/w...-case-34831828

10-30-2015, 01:36 AM	#14
wiseguy182 Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Apr 11, 2006 Location: Wendy's salad bar Posts: 7,030	As you may have seen in another post of mine, I'm confident this is the guy. So happy for the entire Wetterling family tonight. They've waited a long time for answers, and I think now they are finally getting some. And Jesus, what a pervert this Heinrich guy is. They also found videotapes of him secretly recording boys doing their everyday activities (riding bikes, getting the mail, etc). There's always been a lot of debate as to whether or not a car was involved. I've always been under the impression there was a car because if there was not, then the perp would have had to been someone who lived right in that immediate area and it seems like LE would have caught him right away. Jared, who was attacked 9 months before Jacob, was forced into a car, driven elsewhere, assaulted, and then released. I think he intended to do the same thing with Jacob, but something "went wrong." Glad to know Heinrich is finally going to get what he has coming to him.

11-05-2015, 04:59 AM	#15
wiseguy182 Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Apr 11, 2006 Location: Wendy's salad bar Posts: 7,030	Props to the people who created that composite sketch way back when. It looks exactly like Heinrich, even though he has doubled in age since then. Jeannie Boylan would be proud. Some more details are trickling out. Unfortunately none of them are good. -Prior to taking off with Jacob, the perp fondled Aaron Larsen's (the friend's) genitals. -During one of the Paynesville attacks, a boy shouted "You already got me!", before he was assaulted again. -Heinrich would place a quarter on a staircase and wait for boys to pick it up so he could record shots of their rear. And a few details from the book. -On the way TO the convenience store, Aaron thought he heard a noise that sounded out of place, but decided not to say anything because he didn't want to scare Trevor, the youngest. -Talk about creepy. The boys decided to rent a movie since there was nothing on t.v. that night. The Sunday night movie of the week was about a child molester who fondled young boys.