Dick Hansen

[SeekDaGreat]

One of the eeriest unsolved mysteries and hits close to home because I'm from San Jose. Anyone want to shed more insight on this?

[wiseguy182]

Maybe he was following them because he was trying to figure out the way to San Jose?

Bad joke aside, something doesn't add up for me on this case. If the creep intended to kill Dick and/or his friend, why didn't he kill them initially after everyone pulled over? or he could have tried to run them off the road. I am glad he didn't go after the friend although I am a bit perplexed by it. I wonder if the "get the blankety blank" out of here statement was what enraged him.

[WishfulDreamer]

As I said in this thread here, I think the killer was pointing at Jean and not her license plate: http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/...d.php?t=236066
He may have been just looking for a thrill, but there's also a chance of sexual motivation. The thread is full of interesting theories, including some information unearthed on Websleuths. Check it out!

[TheCars1986]

In a previous thread, there was an article posted that said Dick and Jean were blocking a row of mailboxes when the killer pulled up behind them. As sick as this is, I really think that was the motive behind the murder.

[SeekDaGreat]

Great stuff guys. Thanks for your input. Yeah, I wish I could rewind time and investigate this from day one myself. So frustrating, yet intriguing.

[pjpiazza]

If the killer is still alive he is pissed.

[Jediknight1823]

Originally Posted by pjpiazza

If the killer is still alive he is pissed.

Everyone should be mad, freaking Seattle going to the Super Bowl instead of San Francisco. It's crap!

Oh there's the possibility you weren't talking about that.

[mikewho]

This is a crazy case that doesn't make sense. I know its a possibility but I never bought the theory about the license plate being the reason. Possible but probably not likely. I've always wondered if jean knew the guy or maybe he thought he knew her. Wonder if they checked out any ex boyfriends of hers? Maybe something in dicks past? Its definitely possible that its completely random but I have a feeling there's more to the story.

[pjpiazza]

I've been looking for the date this crime took place and I can't find it. I'm assuming it was a Sunday. I want to know if the 49ers lost that weekend. Yes I believe this angle.

[RobinW]

Originally Posted by pjpiazza

I've been looking for the date this crime took place and I can't find it. I'm assuming it was a Sunday. I want to know if the 49ers lost that weekend. Yes I believe this angle.

April 29, 1991. That's a pretty compelling theory and I was all set to look up some old football scores, but alas, football season would have been long over by then. But interestingly enough, a search reveals that this date was a Monday and the NFL draft took place the previous day.

[mikewho]

Its def a possibility but this case is hard to figure out. Very few clues and mainly eye witness testimony. I'm wondering if the guy was there waiting for them to leave or followed them from the bar to his truck without them realizing it. So many unanswered questions.

[pjpiazza]

I saw that date but thought it was Original Air Date not knowing it was a Monday. Now I don't know what to think. 49ers went 14-2. Lost in NFC Championship game on a game ending FG. Hmm.

[Jediknight1823]

Originally Posted by pjpiazza

I saw that date but thought it was Original Air Date not knowing it was a Monday. Now I don't know what to think. 49ers went 14-2. Lost in NFC Championship game on a game ending FG. Hmm.

Didn't just lose on a game winning field goal, they had the game locked up till Roger Craig fumbled. That was the Niners three-peat right there, the Niners should have been the first team to win 3 Super Bowls in a row. That was also the game that Leonard Marshall obliterated Joe Montana, and pretty much ended Montana's career as a Niner. He only played one more game with San Francisco after that.

[Awsi Dooger]

Originally Posted by Jediknight1823

Didn't just lose on a game winning field goal, they had the game locked up till Roger Craig fumbled. That was the Niners three-peat right there, the Niners should have been the first team to win 3 Super Bowls in a row. That was also the game that Leonard Marshall obliterated Joe Montana, and pretty much ended Montana's career as a Niner. He only played one more game with San Francisco after that.

Sorry, but those 1990 49ers were no cinch to defeat Buffalo in the Super Bowl. Game would have been roughly pick-em. I realize that sounds hard to believe, given Montana's reputation for never losing and Kelly's reputation for never winning, but none of Buffalo's 4 losses had taken place yet. The 1990 Bills were the best of the lot and had yet to be shaken by the reputation of losing the big one.

You can see how tight the odds would have been by comparing numbers. San Francisco was -8 hosting the Giants. A week later Buffalo was -7.5 point favorite against the Giants on a neutral field in Tampa.

Besides, the 49ers slipped dramatically from the awesome team of 1989 to the much more ordinary 1990 version. Then as now, the sports media does an inept job of relaying the most vital categories. San Francisco's Yards Per Pass Attempt Differential was an astonishing +3.2 in 1989. That type of dominance is rarely seen in the pros. It looks more like a college number. Seattle led the league at +2.1 this season, for reference purposes.

In 1990, the 49ers slipped to +1.2. That's a good team but nothing special. Their won-loss record masked how vulnerable they were. Several teams each season are +1.2 or better. This year there were four, including Denver at +1.6.

The 1990 49ers would have had near parity with the +1.1 Buffalo Bills. Also, there was only a one week gap between the conference title game and Super Bowl that season. That made it very difficult to prepare for Buffalo's up tempo style. The Giants shortened the game via Ottis Anderson's plowhorse style but the 49ers were not as physical. There would have been more possessions for the Bills and their unique offense.

BTW, my YPPA Differential system is 6-2 versus the spread in the playoffs.

[Jediknight1823]

Originally Posted by Awsi Dooger

Sorry, but those 1990 49ers were no cinch to defeat Buffalo in the Super Bowl. Game would have been roughly pick-em. I realize that sounds hard to believe, given Montana's reputation for never losing and Kelly's reputation for never winning, but none of Buffalo's 4 losses had taken place yet. The 1990 Bills were the best of the lot and had yet to be shaken by the reputation of losing the big one.

You can see how tight the odds would have been by comparing numbers. San Francisco was -8 hosting the Giants. A week later Buffalo was -7.5 point favorite against the Giants on a neutral field in Tampa.

Besides, the 49ers slipped dramatically from the awesome team of 1989 to the much more ordinary 1990 version. Then as now, the sports media does an inept job of relaying the most vital categories. San Francisco's Yards Per Pass Attempt Differential was an astonishing +3.2 in 1989. That type of dominance is rarely seen in the pros. It looks more like a college number. Seattle led the league at +2.1 this season, for reference purposes.

I apologize for the lateness of my reply, of course the 1990 team wasn't as good as the 1989 team. The 1989 team is arguably the greatest team the NFL has seen, for me it's between the 84 Niners (the horrible pass interference call against Pittsburgh caused them to not go undefeated), the 85 Bears, and the 89 Niners.

I do think the 90 Niners would have beat the Bills. That was the best Bills team of the bunch, but they would be going against Steve Young (he'd obviously be filling in for an injured Montana), Rice, Craig, Taylor, Rathman, and Jones on offense. On defense the Niners were excellent, that always gets overlooked about the Niners Dynasty, those were excellent defenses. Now granted Young hadn't become the best QB in football yet, he took that mantle in 92, his second full year as the starter. That being said, don't forget Young was still an excellent QB at that time, he was good enough to cause a QB controversy with Montana at his peak, and this wasn't a coach that didn't know much wondering if he should start Young over Montana, this was Bill Walsh. Bill Walsh is probably the best offensive mind the NFL has seen, the guy knew the game, he knew talent. He was the one who wanted Young on the Niners, he loved Jerry Rice in college, he drafted Montana, and Roger Craig. So if he's not sure who is better Montana or Young, then that says a whole lot. Of course I'm a little biased, Young is my favorite athlete ever. Freaking Lawrence Phillips not knowing how to block.

But that's neither here nor there, and despite the whole license plate thing has nothing to do with Dick Hansen's death. I'd agree that Jean was probably the motive.