Alice Cooper Slams Mumford & Sons and Lumineers: "They are not Rock" - Sitcoms Online Message Boards

JamesG · 07-14-2013, 06:23 PM

Zoneboy · 07-14-2013, 06:46 PM

retrofan05 · 07-14-2013, 07:02 PM

Wouldn't Alice Cooper be considered heavy metal if he's going to get technical?

ABlairican Pie · 07-15-2013, 07:51 PM

I haven't even HEARD Mumford and Sons, and I can TELL they are not rock!!!
Go, Alice!!!

I need to watch the video first, but yeah!!!

ABlairican Pie · 07-15-2013, 07:55 PM

Yeah!!!! Now that I've watched the vid, I say, AMEN to that!!! Can all these trendy folkie coffeehouse schmucksters REALLY call themselves rock??

Rock and roll to seek and destroy, NOT be all nicey-nicey!!!

TheCars1986 · 07-16-2013, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by ABlairican Pie

Yeah!!!! Now that I've watched the vid, I say, AMEN to that!!! Can all these trendy folkie coffeehouse schmucksters REALLY call themselves rock??

Rock and roll to seek and destroy, NOT be all nicey-nicey!!!

I wish I could leap through the screen and give you a high five. These stupid starbuck "rock" bands are not rock. More so folk, than rock. But they still suck.

Penny Lane · 07-16-2013, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by JamesG

Right on Alice!

Love it!

ABlairican Pie · 07-16-2013, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCars1986

I wish I could leap through the screen and give you a high five. These stupid starbuck "rock" bands are not rock. More so folk, than rock. But they still suck.

WOO-HOO!!!! HIGH-FIVE!!!!!

Makes me have second thoughts about going to Starbucks with their yuppie so-called "rawk: CDs.

UMFaninMD · 07-16-2013, 09:50 PM

Anything these days musically that does not have electronic beats, Autotune and rappers is probably considered rock.

I've only listened to snippets of Mumford & Sons and to me they're more progressive, not straight up rock. Also, I just need to say I'm tired of that "Hey Ho" song from The Lumineers. I don't see why they get all this praise. Maybe it's because they don't use electronic beats, Autotune or rappers.

TheCars1986 · 07-18-2013, 08:55 AM

That stupid band Fun! is considered rock too for some reason. The closest you can get to true "rock" is usually the bands that make the Mainstream Rock charts. Anything on the pop charts is absolutely NOT rock'n'roll.

robyrob · 07-18-2013, 02:34 PM

i don't even think this is really a slam at all; you could also claim that these bands aren't Hip Hop, because they aren't - it's not a slam, it is just a statement.

...and Alice Cooper isn't Heavy Metal, shock rock or glam metal in the 80's/90's maybe, but not real heavy metal.

ABlairican Pie · 07-18-2013, 07:36 PM

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i don't even think this is really a slam at all; you could also claim that these bands aren't Hip Hop, because they aren't - it's not a slam, it is just a statement.

...and Alice Cooper isn't Heavy Metal, shock rock or glam metal in the 80's/90's maybe, but not real heavy metal.

Alice Cooper did mention on 'Metal: A Headbanger's Journey' several years ago that he is often credited with "inventing" heavy metal, though he never seemed to buy into that contention. His band was rather avant-garde in the late '60's when they began, and though they were very much a hard rock band, it was a stretch to call them metal. His band showed many influences, and were by all means show-biz-oriented and theatrical. He became even more so eclectic when he went solo in the mid-70's, but when he made his comeback in 1986 (after a few lackluster below-the-radar albums), he was very much metal and has stayed that way. Well, more of a commercial metal akin to Ozzy.

robyrob · 07-18-2013, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ABlairican Pie

Alice Cooper did mention on 'Metal: A Headbanger's Journey' several years ago that he is often credited with "inventing" heavy metal, though he never seemed to buy into that contention. His band was rather avant-garde in the late '60's when they began, and though they were very much a hard rock band, it was a stretch to call them metal. His band showed many influences, and were by all means show-biz-oriented and theatrical. He became even more so eclectic when he went solo in the mid-70's, but when he made his comeback in 1986 (after a few lackluster below-the-radar albums), he was very much metal and has stayed that way. Well, more of a commercial metal akin to Ozzy.

Black Sabbath invented Heavy Metal; other bands may have contributed, but BS is what really started everything.

ABlairican Pie · 07-18-2013, 08:27 PM

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Black Sabbath invented Heavy Metal; other bands may have contributed, but BS is what really started everything.

Exactly!!! Black Sabbath ARE the inventors of metal. Their music was so different from what everyone else was doing. Nuclear blues, as they were once described.

Alice Cooper's stage act was what was different from everyone else was doing, and they didn't start getting popular until their hit "I'm Eighteen". That was a few albums in.

MrCleveland · 07-19-2013, 08:40 AM

Mumford & Sons aren't true rock...they're more pop-rock, they have their roots in British Folk Rock like Fairport Convention, Incredible String Band, and The Strawbs.

Here's M&S most common song "The Cave"....

Now here's something from one of the bands I mentioned...The Strawbs....

Lumineers are more based upon American Folk Rock. With this song...

And it seems they have some influences from Bob Dylan, they even covered a Dylan Song....

I wonder if the Folk-Rock Revival is returning again?

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MrCleveland Drew Carey from Hell Forum Star Join Date: Nov 10, 2007 Location: The City of Cleveland, in The State of Cleveland, in The United States of Cleveland Posts: 14,236	Mumford & Sons aren't true rock...they're more pop-rock, they have their roots in British Folk Rock like Fairport Convention, Incredible String Band, and The Strawbs. Here's M&S most common song "The Cave".... Now here's something from one of the bands I mentioned...The Strawbs.... Lumineers are more based upon American Folk Rock. With this song... And it seems they have some influences from Bob Dylan, they even covered a Dylan Song.... I wonder if the Folk-Rock Revival is returning again?
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07-15-2013, 07:55 PM	#5
ABlairican Pie Member Forum Superstar Join Date: Dec 12, 2001 Location: Living where cats reign more Supreme than a pizza. Posts: 31,619	Yeah!!!! Now that I've watched the vid, I say, AMEN to that!!! Can all these trendy folkie coffeehouse schmucksters REALLY call themselves rock?? Rock and roll to seek and destroy, NOT be all nicey-nicey!!!

07-16-2013, 09:50 PM	#9
UMFaninMD I love a mystery Senior Member Join Date: Apr 19, 2011 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,287	Anything these days musically that does not have electronic beats, Autotune and rappers is probably considered rock. I've only listened to snippets of Mumford & Sons and to me they're more progressive, not straight up rock. Also, I just need to say I'm tired of that "Hey Ho" song from The Lumineers. I don't see why they get all this praise. Maybe it's because they don't use electronic beats, Autotune or rappers.

07-18-2013, 08:55 AM	#10
TheCars1986 #VLSKMS Forum Fanatic Join Date: Nov 22, 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 8,630	That stupid band Fun! is considered rock too for some reason. The closest you can get to true "rock" is usually the bands that make the Mainstream Rock charts. Anything on the pop charts is absolutely NOT rock'n'roll.