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SeekDaGreat · 07-10-2013, 12:43 AM

Was there every any concrete evidence to rule out her boyfriend "Rob."??? Such as proof he was on the phone with her at the time of abduction? Or anything????

mercy1825 · 07-10-2013, 02:49 AM

Not that was mentioned on the segment, but without question he was ruled out as a suspect rather quickly. We are talking about a girl who disappeared off the face of the earth in the general area where 2 other confirmed adult stranger abductions had taken place within a relatively short period of time. Clearly there was active serial killers in this area and probably more than 2 or 3.

From everything I have read about the case and other potentially linked crimes, no person connected to this case in any way thinks Rob Schafer has anything at all to do with Angela's disappearance.

Of course everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but personally I find any negative comments or suspicion cast on Rob to be ignorant and distasteful. Consider what he has had to live with for over 20 years now. God bless him and I pray that he is still among us, hopefully able to have gotten past this tragedy to whatever extent possible.

wiseguy182 · 07-10-2013, 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by SeekDaGreat

Was there every any concrete evidence to rule out her boyfriend "Rob."??? Such as proof he was on the phone with her at the time of abduction? Or anything????

Rob is his real name. Rob Schafer to be exact. He passed a lie detector test so there is your evidence that he was innocent. On the flip side of the coin, there hasn't been a single thing to point towards Rob being involved. Nothing.

I think the whole "Rob Schafer did it" nonsense was started by OldSchoolTv, easily one of the most worthless posters in the entire history of this forum, for so many reasons that I won't go into them because it would be a marathon-length post.

asmitty · 07-10-2013, 11:26 AM

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Rob is his real name. Rob Schafer to be exact. He passed a lie detector test so there is your evidence that he was innocent. On the flip side of the coin, there hasn't been a single thing to point towards Rob being involved. Nothing.

I think the whole "Rob Schafer did it" nonsense was started by OldSchoolTv, easily one of the most worthless posters in the entire history of this forum, for so many reasons that I won't go into them because it would be a marathon-length post.

This. There was never any concrete evidence to suspect the boyfriend, Rob. Let alone needing concrete evidence to rule him out.

Necco · 07-10-2013, 05:07 PM

HE DIDN'T DO IT.

There. I feel better. Poor Rob. Of all the boyfriends/husbands on UM, I think my heart broke the most for him.

flytrapp · 07-10-2013, 05:20 PM

I didn't think that Rob was involved, either....not for a second. I know there has been some speculation about Angela being abducted by Kenneth McDuff during his crime spree....that's not a bad theory, considering McDuff was not afraid of plucking women right off of the street.

SeekDaGreat · 07-10-2013, 05:30 PM

Whoa, I never accused Rob of doing anything, I'm saying where was the evidence to rule him out. Which, you provided he past a lie detector test (which is not impossible even in the event of being guilty, and or lying.) The UM segment doesn't do a great job of ruling him out and inquiring minds such as myself have to cover all our bases. I've seen one too many cases, where it became all to convenient for the significant other to be all to closely involved in the incident where foul play has taken place. And they usually are the cause of it.

With that being said, my prayers go out to everyone who was effected in any way in this tragedy.

Such an eerie series of events.

SeekDaGreat · 07-10-2013, 05:37 PM

And I appreciate all the feed back but nothing said on this thread has scientifically ruled out Rob Schafer as a suspect from a Forensic stand-point You may call it ignorance, I call it forensics. And I'm sorry I have to feel that way. No need to spark an arguement, a lie detector test has been passed ten-fold by people whom have lied, that's not forensic evidence. I'm just stating the (little to none) facts available to Me.

Necco · 07-10-2013, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SeekDaGreat

Whoa, I never accused Rob of doing anything, I'm saying where was the evidence to rule him out. Which, you provided he past a lie detector test (which is not impossible even in the event of being guilty, and or lying.) The UM segment doesn't do a great job of ruling him out and inquiring minds such as myself have to cover all our bases. I've seen one too many cases, where it became all to convenient for the significant other to be all to closely involved in the incident where foul play has taken place. And they usually are the cause of it.

With that being said, my prayers go out to everyone who was effected in any way in this tragedy.

Such an eerie series of events.

Sorry, we get very passionate about Rob.

If I recall correctly, his younger brother heard him on the phone. The busted tranny would have been checked I'm sure. And I think the timeline was pretty rock solid that it had to have happened the way he said it did. But that's without going back and researching.

TheCars1986 · 07-10-2013, 05:47 PM

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If I recall correctly, his younger brother heard him on the phone. The busted tranny would have been checked I'm sure. And I think the timeline was pretty rock solid that it had to have happened the way he said it did. But that's without going back and researching.

When I read that second sentence I thought to myself, wait they arrested a transvestite in this case!?

Necco · 07-10-2013, 07:17 PM

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When I read that second sentence I thought to myself, wait they arrested a transvestite in this case!?

We've solved it! ELIZABETH CARMICHAEL DID IT!!!!!!

MegtheEgg86 · 07-10-2013, 07:35 PM

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We've solved it! ELIZABETH CARMICHAEL DID IT!!!!!!

DanCart · 07-10-2013, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SeekDaGreat

..a lie detector test has been passed ten-fold by people whom have lied, that's not forensic evidence. ...

I agree with you there

I have lost count and quite frankly I shudder each time I hear about any unsolved case were cops say so and so was cleared because they passed a lie detector test ......... TBH if my freedom depended on even I could beat the lie detector test easily ......... I`m not surprised they are not given too much consideration in courts....

WishfulDreamer · 07-10-2013, 09:10 PM

I agree with Necco. I'm pretty sure that the police checked his car to confirm his story and that he was not lying about the transmission. In any case, the window of opportunity for him to do anything was so small, particularly to the extent that she hasn't been found for over twenty years. (Kind of like the Tara Breckinridge case-I doubt with that window of opportunity Wayne Hecker committed the crime even if his demeanor was frustrating to watch and he made questionable statements). I know they did extensive searches for Angela in the area, but I bet the abductor probably drove her a considerable distance away from the crime and was not an area resident. That is probably the reason the crime is still unsolved today.

flytrapp · 07-10-2013, 10:30 PM

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When I read that second sentence I thought to myself, wait they arrested a transvestite in this case!?

LMAO! I thought so, too!!!! I was thinking "What tranny? I don't remember any transgendered person being involved in this case?" LOL.

07-10-2013, 12:43 AM	#1
SeekDaGreat Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Apr 11, 2013 Location: San Jose, CA. Posts: 93	Questions about the Angela Hammond case Was there every any concrete evidence to rule out her boyfriend "Rob."??? Such as proof he was on the phone with her at the time of abduction? Or anything????

07-10-2013, 02:49 AM	#2
mercy1825 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: May 04, 2004 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 176	Not that was mentioned on the segment, but without question he was ruled out as a suspect rather quickly. We are talking about a girl who disappeared off the face of the earth in the general area where 2 other confirmed adult stranger abductions had taken place within a relatively short period of time. Clearly there was active serial killers in this area and probably more than 2 or 3. From everything I have read about the case and other potentially linked crimes, no person connected to this case in any way thinks Rob Schafer has anything at all to do with Angela's disappearance. Of course everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but personally I find any negative comments or suspicion cast on Rob to be ignorant and distasteful. Consider what he has had to live with for over 20 years now. God bless him and I pray that he is still among us, hopefully able to have gotten past this tragedy to whatever extent possible.

07-10-2013, 05:07 PM	#5
Necco Member Senior Member Join Date: Jan 06, 2006 Posts: 1,149	HE DIDN'T DO IT. There. I feel better. Poor Rob. Of all the boyfriends/husbands on UM, I think my heart broke the most for him.

07-10-2013, 05:20 PM	#6
flytrapp Member Frequent Poster Join Date: May 03, 2011 Location: Circleville Posts: 446	I didn't think that Rob was involved, either....not for a second. I know there has been some speculation about Angela being abducted by Kenneth McDuff during his crime spree....that's not a bad theory, considering McDuff was not afraid of plucking women right off of the street.

07-10-2013, 05:30 PM	#7
SeekDaGreat Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Apr 11, 2013 Location: San Jose, CA. Posts: 93	Whoa, I never accused Rob of doing anything, I'm saying where was the evidence to rule him out. Which, you provided he past a lie detector test (which is not impossible even in the event of being guilty, and or lying.) The UM segment doesn't do a great job of ruling him out and inquiring minds such as myself have to cover all our bases. I've seen one too many cases, where it became all to convenient for the significant other to be all to closely involved in the incident where foul play has taken place. And they usually are the cause of it. With that being said, my prayers go out to everyone who was effected in any way in this tragedy. Such an eerie series of events.

07-10-2013, 05:37 PM	#8
SeekDaGreat Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Apr 11, 2013 Location: San Jose, CA. Posts: 93	And I appreciate all the feed back but nothing said on this thread has scientifically ruled out Rob Schafer as a suspect from a Forensic stand-point You may call it ignorance, I call it forensics. And I'm sorry I have to feel that way. No need to spark an arguement, a lie detector test has been passed ten-fold by people whom have lied, that's not forensic evidence. I'm just stating the (little to none) facts available to Me.

07-10-2013, 09:10 PM	#14
WishfulDreamer Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 01, 2009 Location: L.A. Posts: 3,868	I agree with Necco. I'm pretty sure that the police checked his car to confirm his story and that he was not lying about the transmission. In any case, the window of opportunity for him to do anything was so small, particularly to the extent that she hasn't been found for over twenty years. (Kind of like the Tara Breckinridge case-I doubt with that window of opportunity Wayne Hecker committed the crime even if his demeanor was frustrating to watch and he made questionable statements). I know they did extensive searches for Angela in the area, but I bet the abductor probably drove her a considerable distance away from the crime and was not an area resident. That is probably the reason the crime is still unsolved today.