Missing people...

[KickYourFace]

whom you're convinced are still alive. This could be an interesting topic.

[Necco]

Can we include people we think survived their initial say... 5 year missing period but due to the passage of time may be dead?


Brad Bishop
Dottie Caylor
Joan Gay Croft
Laurence Harding, Jr
Mary Agnes Gross

to name a few

[1990 UM fan]

Selena Edon I believe voluntarily left. I hope someone took her in and is taking care of her.

Gordon Page Jr. I believe is alive as well. I am also a high-functioning austistic like him and we can adapt and survive despite being shy and limited.

Samantha Kibalo and Savanna Todd, who were each kidnapped by their mothers, are probably alive and living under assumed names.

I could go on and on with a list of people I think are still alive.

[1990 UM fan]

Originally Posted by Necco

Can we include people we think survived their initial say... 5 year missing period but due to the passage of time may be dead?


Brad Bishop
Dottie Caylor
Joan Gay Croft
Laurence Harding, Jr
Mary Agnes Gross

to name a few

I think another family has her, as her mother believes that picture she received was the people who have her daughter.

[MegtheEgg86]

I agree on Selena Edon. I'm 90% in agreement on Gordon Page, Jr. as well.

I think there's a possibility Dottie Caylor could still be alive. I've probably changed my mind on that case more than any other. Initially I was convinced Jule murdered her. Then I was sure she left him. Now I think things might be a good bit more convoluted, although I still think Jule didn't actually kill Dottie. I do think he might know more about her whereabouts than what he's indicated, however.

I think Justin Burgwinkel could still be alive, as well as Marlene Santana.

[DarkDante]

Originally Posted by MegtheEgg86

I agree on Selena Edon. I'm 90% in agreement on Gordon Page, Jr. as well.

I think there's a possibility Dottie Caylor could still be alive. I've probably changed my mind on that case more than any other. Initially I was convinced Jule murdered her. Then I was sure she left him. Now I think things might be a good bit more convoluted, although I still think Jule didn't actually kill Dottie. I do think he might know more about her whereabouts than what he's indicated, however.

I think Justin Burgwinkel could still be alive, as well as Marlene Santana.

I am 100% convinced that Dottie Caylor is dead. I've heard a lot of other explanations regarding the possibility that she might be alive but to me everything about her case screams that we are dealing not with a missing person but a woman who was either the victim of a homicide or perhaps some type of accidental death.

Until Dottie Caylor or her remains are located, Jule will always be a suspect due to the fact that they had a troubled marriage among other reasons but there is also the possibility that Dottie due to her mentally fragile state may have suffered some type of nervous breakdown which could've lead to her demise.

So for me there are really two plausible theories here and only really one known suspect if the case indeed turns out to be one of homicide. I've read some articles that claim that Jule Caylor had some anger management issues but that alone doesn't necessarily implicate him in Dottie's disappearance or death. He certainly didn't help himself with his appearance on UM or how his actions immediately following Dottie's disappearance were portrayed in the segment but again that doesn't necessarily mean he was involved in her disappearance.

But unless Dottie and her family having been holding a secret away from the rest of the world for over three decades now regarding her disappearance and she is safe and sound somewhere, I will continue to feel strongly that she is in fact dead.

[cordwainer1453]

Is it just me, or does that Caylor guy look like his eyes are always closed?

[wiseguy182]

Originally Posted by DarkDante

I am 100% convinced that Dottie Caylor is dead. I've heard a lot of other explanations regarding the possibility that she might be alive but to me everything about her case screams that we are dealing not with a missing person but a woman who was either the victim of a homicide or perhaps some type of accidental death.

Until Dottie Caylor or her remains are located, Jule will always be a suspect due to the fact that they had a troubled marriage among other reasons but there is also the possibility that Dottie due to her mentally fragile state may have suffered some type of nervous breakdown which could've lead to her demise.

So for me there are really two plausible theories here and only really one known suspect if the case indeed turns out to be one of homicide. I've read some articles that claim that Jule Caylor had some anger management issues but that alone doesn't necessarily implicate him in Dottie's disappearance or death. He certainly didn't help himself with his appearance on UM or how his actions immediately following Dottie's disappearance were portrayed in the segment but again that doesn't necessarily mean he was involved in her disappearance.

But unless Dottie and her family having been holding a secret away from the rest of the world for over three decades now regarding her disappearance and she is safe and sound somewhere, I will continue to feel strongly that she is in fact dead.

I hate to nitpick, but Dottie disappeared in 1985, so it hasn't quite been 3 decades yet.

You do raise an interesting point, however, about Dottie's fragile state. I hadn't really thought of that. I know Jule mentioned that he thought one possibility was that Dottie ran into the wrong people from the start. She did seem to be a bit dependent on others. I've had numerous posts in the Caylor threads and won't repeat them here, but I'm in agreement with Meg: I have shifted towards thinking Jule is guilty to undetermined. My reasons for that are 2-fold: 1) Dottie was living a secret lifestyle, and 2) Jule didn't seem to care one way or another about her. Perhaps if he made a statement of "I wish she was dead" that would have looked bad for him, but this appeared to be a case of 2 people being finished with each other.

[WishfulDreamer]

I have to agree about Dottie Caylor; I just don't believe she could be out there alive, though I'm not 100% that Jule is responsible. I don't think that a woman in a fragile state, who relied on the support of her friends and sister, would 1) run off and 2) have gone this long without contacting those she was close to. She'd be almost 70 years old today.

I believe Marlene Santana and Jacqueline Castaneda are still alive and were abducted by women who desperately wanted children.

[DJ_Foxx]

definitely Justin Burgwinkel.

Others that I kinda think are still alive:

Gordon Page Jr

Amy Bradley

Brad Bishop

[Steve W.]

Of the cases listed on the official site, the two that jump out at me that could be alive are Sabrina Aisenberg and Selena Edon. I have my doubts (or strongly doubt) about nearly everyone else listed: http://www.unsolved.com/missing.html