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xBazingaDudex · 04-29-2013, 09:44 PM

Sorry if this has been asked before. I do like this show but what's with there marriage? In real life if a couple fought as much as them they would of gotten divorced. I mean Debra always yells at him and acts like he a piece of crap person who never does anything and that he always ashamed of him. I honestly think they have a bad marriage on this show I know there moments where they are good together but 90 percent of the time they are fighting. Plus Debra also always has hatred for his parents to which is bad in a marriage.

Hughsgirl · 05-01-2013, 09:54 AM

I agree with you. Debra is always moody, mean, bossy and thinks she's better than everyone else. Ray on the hand is lazy (other than working for a living), immature and a big wuss. The show is hilarious though but I watch it more for the other half of the Barone family - IMO, they are what makes this show - not Ray and Debra. But that is just my opinion.

xBazingaDudex · 05-01-2013, 09:57 AM

I just think its very unrealistic marriage I know it just a sitcom but why would someone marry someone that they basically like look down upon all the time and isn't proud of there episode where she told people at school function they went to that she didn't know him

biffbronson · 05-01-2013, 01:58 PM

I'm in agreement with everything that's been posted -- but I will say however that I'd rather be married to Debra than Carrie from The King of Queens. While Debra tended to be domineering, Carrie would scare me outright...!

liane49 · 05-03-2013, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by xBazingaDudex

I just think its very unrealistic marriage I know it just a sitcom but why would someone marry someone that they basically like look down upon all the time and isn't proud of there episode where she told people at school function they went to that she didn't know him

They say alot of the stories were from personal experiences. I'm not married but I'd sure hate to have all that stuff happen in my real life and I couldn't be as mean, rude and bossy as Debra. I'd be surprised my if my husband didn't leave me in a heart beat.

Hughsgirl · 05-07-2013, 01:12 PM

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They say alot of the stories were from personal experiences. I'm not married but I'd sure hate to have all that stuff happen in my real life and I couldn't be as mean, rude and bossy as Debra. I'd be surprised my if my husband didn't leave me in a heart beat.

Amen to that! IMO, there is no chemistry between them either. I think Ray is in "lust" not in love with her. And Debra, not sure what she ever saw in him except maybe someone to make all the money and give her what she wants - oh and for someone to control and kick around. Think about it, there are not many men at all that would put up with her - I know if I was a man I wouldn't. In fact, I would say she was lucky that Ray wasn't a wife beater.

xBazingaDudex · 05-07-2013, 07:02 PM

Couples fight i get that. sometimes husband or wife doesnt do stuff when they should i get that. its just debra acts like ray is a piece of crap garbage guy who does nothing but sit around on the couch watching sports and that might be true or not true but what kind of marriage is that when you act like your ashamed of your spouse.

Hughsgirl · 05-08-2013, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by xBazingaDudex

Couples fight i get that. sometimes husband or wife doesnt do stuff when they should i get that. its just debra acts like ray is a piece of crap garbage guy who does nothing but sit around on the couch watching sports and that might be true or not true but what kind of marriage is that when you act like your ashamed of your spouse.

I agree!

xBazingaDudex · 05-08-2013, 02:52 PM

just seems like they spend more time fighting/arguing than actually enjoying there marriage or helping each other out. I mean it seems like he married her because it was the best looking girl who gave him the time of day. I mean half the episodes he doesnt even remember simple stuff like her middle name and things like that. I mean he been married to her how along and he doesn't know what to get her as a present for christmas.

visaman666 · 05-09-2013, 02:57 AM

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Originally Posted by xBazingaDudex

Sorry if this has been asked before. I do like this show but what's with there marriage? In real life if a couple fought as much as them they would of gotten divorced. I mean Debra always yells at him and acts like he a piece of crap person who never does anything and that he always ashamed of him. I honestly think they have a bad marriage on this show I know there moments where they are good together but 90 percent of the time they are fighting. Plus Debra also always has hatred for his parents to which is bad in a marriage.

The Barones are very kinky. Debra is the Domme and Ray is the Slave. It's a BDSM thing.

Tap Dancer · 06-03-2013, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by xBazingaDudex

I do like this show but what's with there marriage? In real life if a couple fought as much as them they would of gotten divorced.

Not necessarily. My parents are a lot like them, and they've been married for over 40 years.

JO Sweet Heart · 09-20-2015, 12:48 AM

I don't think that Debra was thinking with her brain when she decided to marry Ray. Instead she was thinking with a southern part of her body. To me, she put up with way too much.

God bless you always!!!

Holly

Brian77 · 03-15-2017, 12:40 PM

Maybe it is an unrealistic marriage but I love Debra. She is beautiful, takes care of the kids and runs the house. She is smart and funny. She does get crazy mad at Ray but it's because he is an idiot. I watch the show for her. Ray doesn't realize how good he has it. Wish I had it that good.

SledgeBarone · 04-17-2020, 02:36 AM

To me Ray and Debra's marriage isn't unrealistic at all. Fights happen. I kind of wonder whether the people commenting here are married or have ever been married. The show also displayed charming aspects or their relationship, like in many of the flashback scenes, and the resolutions of episodes like the Breakup Tape and High School.

Why isn't there commentary about Frank and Marie's marriage, where the yelling and fighting are daily occurrences? Is it because they belong to an older generation, where the quarrels are expected or "earned" after so many years? Or because they seem to go to their Catholic church more often than Ray and Debra? Or is their marriage's "badness" just so obvious to everybody that it's not worth commenting on? (Even though theirs survived while Lois and Warren's ended?)

OH Nuts! · 07-04-2020, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SledgeBarone

To me Ray and Debra's marriage isn't unrealistic at all. Fights happen. I kind of wonder whether the people commenting here are married or have ever been married. The show also displayed charming aspects or their relationship, like in many of the flashback scenes, and the resolutions of episodes like the Breakup Tape and High School.

Why isn't there commentary about Frank and Marie's marriage, where the yelling and fighting are daily occurrences? Is it because they belong to an older generation, where the quarrels are expected or "earned" after so many years? Or because they seem to go to their Catholic church more often than Ray and Debra? Or is their marriage's "badness" just so obvious to everybody that it's not worth commenting on? (Even though theirs survived while Lois and Warren's ended?)

Yeah I agree with you the fighting was natural. Some like to paint Debra as this hard-a## bit## but she was tired of Ray weenying out of his responsibilities. And BOY was she smart! Remember how deftly she put out that fire that Ray started?

As for Marie and Frank, I think they love to argue. And while I generally don’t care for Frank, I love how enraged he got when Marie said they had a loveless marriage. IMO one of the classic scenes from the show.

04-29-2013, 09:44 PM	#1
xBazingaDudex Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Apr 03, 2013 Posts: 71	Ray and Debra marriage Sorry if this has been asked before. I do like this show but what's with there marriage? In real life if a couple fought as much as them they would of gotten divorced. I mean Debra always yells at him and acts like he a piece of crap person who never does anything and that he always ashamed of him. I honestly think they have a bad marriage on this show I know there moments where they are good together but 90 percent of the time they are fighting. Plus Debra also always has hatred for his parents to which is bad in a marriage.

05-01-2013, 01:58 PM	#4
biffbronson Sentimental Fool Forum Star Join Date: Aug 22, 2009 Location: Near Notre Dame Posts: 10,273	I'm in agreement with everything that's been posted -- but I will say however that I'd rather be married to Debra than Carrie from The King of Queens. While Debra tended to be domineering, Carrie would scare me outright...!
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JO Sweet Heart Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Mar 11, 2012 Location: East Tennessee Posts: 7,834	I don't think that Debra was thinking with her brain when she decided to marry Ray. Instead she was thinking with a southern part of her body. To me, she put up with way too much. God bless you always!!! Holly
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05-01-2013, 09:54 AM	#2
Hughsgirl Member Forum Regular Join Date: Sep 22, 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 804	I agree with you. Debra is always moody, mean, bossy and thinks she's better than everyone else. Ray on the hand is lazy (other than working for a living), immature and a big wuss. The show is hilarious though but I watch it more for the other half of the Barone family - IMO, they are what makes this show - not Ray and Debra. But that is just my opinion.

05-01-2013, 09:57 AM	#3
xBazingaDudex Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Apr 03, 2013 Posts: 71	I just think its very unrealistic marriage I know it just a sitcom but why would someone marry someone that they basically like look down upon all the time and isn't proud of there episode where she told people at school function they went to that she didn't know him

05-07-2013, 07:02 PM	#7
xBazingaDudex Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Apr 03, 2013 Posts: 71	Couples fight i get that. sometimes husband or wife doesnt do stuff when they should i get that. its just debra acts like ray is a piece of crap garbage guy who does nothing but sit around on the couch watching sports and that might be true or not true but what kind of marriage is that when you act like your ashamed of your spouse.

05-08-2013, 02:52 PM	#9
xBazingaDudex Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Apr 03, 2013 Posts: 71	just seems like they spend more time fighting/arguing than actually enjoying there marriage or helping each other out. I mean it seems like he married her because it was the best looking girl who gave him the time of day. I mean half the episodes he doesnt even remember simple stuff like her middle name and things like that. I mean he been married to her how along and he doesn't know what to get her as a present for christmas.

03-15-2017, 12:40 PM	#13
Brian77 Member Forum Cub Join Date: Mar 15, 2017 Posts: 2	Maybe it is an unrealistic marriage but I love Debra. She is beautiful, takes care of the kids and runs the house. She is smart and funny. She does get crazy mad at Ray but it's because he is an idiot. I watch the show for her. Ray doesn't realize how good he has it. Wish I had it that good.

04-17-2020, 02:36 AM	#14
SledgeBarone Member Senior Member Join Date: Apr 01, 2020 Posts: 1,930	To me Ray and Debra's marriage isn't unrealistic at all. Fights happen. I kind of wonder whether the people commenting here are married or have ever been married. The show also displayed charming aspects or their relationship, like in many of the flashback scenes, and the resolutions of episodes like the Breakup Tape and High School. Why isn't there commentary about Frank and Marie's marriage, where the yelling and fighting are daily occurrences? Is it because they belong to an older generation, where the quarrels are expected or "earned" after so many years? Or because they seem to go to their Catholic church more often than Ray and Debra? Or is their marriage's "badness" just so obvious to everybody that it's not worth commenting on? (Even though theirs survived while Lois and Warren's ended?)