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Neutronman67 · 04-25-2013, 07:32 AM

Would the episode be more emotional and depressing if edith bunker would not be able to escape from the rapist attacking her in her house ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KflQ5--uSY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGJRkTIZAmQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cVcLoAjqHw

Frump · 04-25-2013, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Neutronman67

Would the episode be more emotional and depressing if edith bunker would not be able to escape from the rapist attacking her in her house ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KflQ5--uSY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGJRkTIZAmQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cVcLoAjqHw

Yeah that might have been a little TOO heavy for the show. I can immagine the aftermath would have been MUCH MUCH harder for Edith, and she was already in horrible condition after it happened as it was.

Mr. Drucker · 04-25-2013, 02:05 PM

Once on "Facts of Life",Natalie was raped but you never saw the assailant you just heard her discuss the attack to Mrs.Garrett et. al after the fact.And yes,showing anymore of it probably would have gone a little beyond acceptable perameters,even for AITF.I think even today's standards and practices wouldn't allow much more if any.Maybe on a police/forensic show but even then...

shotzette · 04-25-2013, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Drucker

Once on "Facts of Life",Natalie was raped but you never saw the assailant you just heard her discuss the attack to Mrs.Garrett et. al after the fact.And yes,showing anymore of it probably would have gone a little beyond acceptable perameters,even for AITF.I think even today's standards and practices wouldn't allow much more if any.Maybe on a police/forensic show but even then...

Actually, Natalie was "almost" raped. She was able to fight back and get away from her assailant. She still had a pretty intense case of PTSD however.

Frump · 04-26-2013, 01:59 AM

This was one episode of AITF that scared me and made me cry.

It was really emotional when Edith finally gets away and runs in grabbing Archie.

Neutronman67 · 04-26-2013, 07:47 AM

I think Archie would have been mad if that happened to edith instead of her getting away from that jerk before he could do anything.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMGZHT6RwmM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oBRq_QhpuA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEG6sbIyVKQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82Aut0WrrhY

Yong Fang · 04-26-2013, 09:22 AM

How did this get past the CBS censors?

Whose crazy idea was this in the first place? Some writer, "Het, let's do an episode where Edith gets sexually assaulted!" and not be chunked as a bad idea, but something that gets the green light. If I were a suit, I would have said no, this is a situation COMEDY.

The guy who was the actor who played the rapist was supposedly threatened as he was walking down the street because people cannot tell the difference between TV and reality. He's dead now (from cancer I think).

I have never found this episode to be appropriate. Everyone knows what rape is, and it could have been handled in a later time in a drama. I was a kid in the 1970's and watched this show with my parents, and what fun it was to tell little Johnny what rape is.

Frump · 04-26-2013, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Yong Fang

How did this get past the CBS censors?

Whose crazy idea was this in the first place. Some writer, "Het, let's do an episode where Edith gets sexually assaulted!" and not be chunked as a bad idea, but something that gets the green light. If I were a suit, I would have said no, this is a situation COMEDY.

The guy who was the actor who played the rapist was supposedly threatened as he was walking down the street because people cannot tell the difference between TV and reality. He's dead now (from cancer I think).

Well AITF dealt more with real life issues than other shows. I've heard ppl say that AITF was the Roseanne of it's day.

Neutronman67 · 04-27-2013, 08:43 AM

Yeah people think the actors are just like the characters they play on a TV show what people dont no is the producers are to blame not the actors who are forced to play their parts for cash.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMGZHT6RwmM

Adamantium · 04-27-2013, 10:30 AM

More depressing definitely. However, I believe it's more emotional the way it is. It's such a wonderful moment when Edith finally gets away from that guy. The emotion, to me, comes from that moment. If it didn't happen, it just would be a depressing episode that I think people would avoid in reruns.

If I had been in the audience, when Edith escaped, I'd have done a standing ovation, clapped as loud as I could and cheer as well.

Neutronman67 · 04-28-2013, 07:51 AM

The episode does seem right for a show like AITF this is a comedy not a drama show lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs0Pqm7TA6U

Hughsgirl · 04-29-2013, 04:56 PM

Yes, AITF was a comedy, however, I feel this episode was no different from any other that they did in regards to doing stories that was "taboo" and IMO, that's what set them apart from the others of their time. This episode was done in a very real way and very well done IMO. If you all recall, earlier in the show, Gloria was groped while walking by a construction site. Sure, we didn't see it, but they showed the effects of it.

Neutronman67 · 04-30-2013, 07:28 AM

Every show in the 70's and 80's that was a comedy show had to have atleast a couple controversy episodes to teach the viewers a lesson about whats going on in the world everyday, People say this episode of AITF is the most disturbing episode of the series run.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F36tONrZeHs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtVahVom_Hk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RvVuI6hbhk

Hughsgirl · 04-30-2013, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Neutronman67

Every show in the 70's and 80's that was a comedy show had to have atleast a couple controversy episodes to teach the viewers a lesson about whats going on in the world everyday, People say this episode of AITF is the most disturbing episode of the series run.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F36tONrZeHs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtVahVom_Hk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RvVuI6hbhk

As with anything it's all a matter of opinion. But it was disturbing because rape is disturbing - is it not?

Neutronman67 · 05-01-2013, 07:19 AM

.The scene would have been better if archie walked in the room and tried to fight the creepy rapist away before he could make a move on edith, we never new if archie was a fighter on AITF he could have been like the hero.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWb5fMPvSXs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHJYAWThx3M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b125NDff49A

04-25-2013, 07:32 AM	#1
Neutronman67 Member Senior Member Join Date: Feb 23, 2013 Location: Sarasota Posts: 2,538	What if Edith could not escape from the rapist from her house Would the episode be more emotional and depressing if edith bunker would not be able to escape from the rapist attacking her in her house ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KflQ5--uSY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGJRkTIZAmQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cVcLoAjqHw

04-26-2013, 09:22 AM	#7
Yong Fang Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Aug 04, 2009 Location: Memphis Tennessee Posts: 3,073	How did this get past the CBS censors? Whose crazy idea was this in the first place? Some writer, "Het, let's do an episode where Edith gets sexually assaulted!" and not be chunked as a bad idea, but something that gets the green light. If I were a suit, I would have said no, this is a situation COMEDY. The guy who was the actor who played the rapist was supposedly threatened as he was walking down the street because people cannot tell the difference between TV and reality. He's dead now (from cancer I think). I have never found this episode to be appropriate. Everyone knows what rape is, and it could have been handled in a later time in a drama. I was a kid in the 1970's and watched this show with my parents, and what fun it was to tell little Johnny what rape is.
	Last edited by Yong Fang; 04-28-2013 at 02:19 AM.

04-25-2013, 02:05 PM	#3
Mr. Drucker Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Feb 28, 2013 Location: Lynn,MA Posts: 325	Once on "Facts of Life",Natalie was raped but you never saw the assailant you just heard her discuss the attack to Mrs.Garrett et. al after the fact.And yes,showing anymore of it probably would have gone a little beyond acceptable perameters,even for AITF.I think even today's standards and practices wouldn't allow much more if any.Maybe on a police/forensic show but even then...

04-26-2013, 01:59 AM	#5
Frump Member Senior Member Join Date: Feb 06, 2003 Location: McMinnville Posts: 1,206	This was one episode of AITF that scared me and made me cry. It was really emotional when Edith finally gets away and runs in grabbing Archie.

04-26-2013, 07:47 AM	#6
Neutronman67 Member Senior Member Join Date: Feb 23, 2013 Location: Sarasota Posts: 2,538	I think Archie would have been mad if that happened to edith instead of her getting away from that jerk before he could do anything. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMGZHT6RwmM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oBRq_QhpuA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEG6sbIyVKQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82Aut0WrrhY

04-27-2013, 08:43 AM	#9
Neutronman67 Member Senior Member Join Date: Feb 23, 2013 Location: Sarasota Posts: 2,538	Yeah people think the actors are just like the characters they play on a TV show what people dont no is the producers are to blame not the actors who are forced to play their parts for cash. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMGZHT6RwmM

04-27-2013, 10:30 AM	#10
Adamantium TVAdam No More Forum Veteran Join Date: Sep 11, 2002 Location: Springfield, Ohio Posts: 7,828	More depressing definitely. However, I believe it's more emotional the way it is. It's such a wonderful moment when Edith finally gets away from that guy. The emotion, to me, comes from that moment. If it didn't happen, it just would be a depressing episode that I think people would avoid in reruns. If I had been in the audience, when Edith escaped, I'd have done a standing ovation, clapped as loud as I could and cheer as well.

04-28-2013, 07:51 AM	#11
Neutronman67 Member Senior Member Join Date: Feb 23, 2013 Location: Sarasota Posts: 2,538	The episode does seem right for a show like AITF this is a comedy not a drama show lol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs0Pqm7TA6U

04-29-2013, 04:56 PM	#12
Hughsgirl Member Forum Regular Join Date: Sep 22, 2008 Location: Michigan Posts: 804	Yes, AITF was a comedy, however, I feel this episode was no different from any other that they did in regards to doing stories that was "taboo" and IMO, that's what set them apart from the others of their time. This episode was done in a very real way and very well done IMO. If you all recall, earlier in the show, Gloria was groped while walking by a construction site. Sure, we didn't see it, but they showed the effects of it.

04-30-2013, 07:28 AM	#13
Neutronman67 Member Senior Member Join Date: Feb 23, 2013 Location: Sarasota Posts: 2,538	Every show in the 70's and 80's that was a comedy show had to have atleast a couple controversy episodes to teach the viewers a lesson about whats going on in the world everyday, People say this episode of AITF is the most disturbing episode of the series run. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F36tONrZeHs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtVahVom_Hk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RvVuI6hbhk

05-01-2013, 07:19 AM	#15
Neutronman67 Member Senior Member Join Date: Feb 23, 2013 Location: Sarasota Posts: 2,538	.The scene would have been better if archie walked in the room and tried to fight the creepy rapist away before he could make a move on edith, we never new if archie was a fighter on AITF he could have been like the hero. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWb5fMPvSXs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHJYAWThx3M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b125NDff49A