Sitcoms Online - Main Page / Message Boards - Main Page / News Blog / Photo Galleries / DVD Reviews / Buy TV Shows on DVD and Blu-ray

View Today's Active Threads (No Chit Chat/Chit Chat Only) / View New Posts (No Chit Chat/Chit Chat Only) / Mark All Boards Read / Chit Chat Board

General TV News and Discussion / View Latest Threads in General TV and Sub-Forums

TV Series on DVD/Streaming News and Discussion / Fantasy TV Channels/Schedules and Fictional TV Networks / Classic TV Schedules Archive / TV Theme Songs / Theme Song Lyrics: Requests and Archive

Broadcast Networks / ABC / CBS / Fox / NBC / The CW / UPN (1995-2006) / The WB (1995-2006) / MyNetworkTV / TV Ratings

Cable TV/Digital Channels / Antenna TV / BET / Bounce TV / Canadian Channels (CHCH) / Catchy Comedy / CMT / Comedy Central / Cozi TV / Dabl / Disney Channel / FETV / Freeform / FX / FXX / Great American Family / Great Entertainment Television (Great.) (formerly Get (get.) and getTV) / Hallmark Channel / H&I (Heroes & Icons) / The Hub / IFC / INSP / ION Television / Laff / Lifetime / Logo TV / MeTV / Nick at Nite / Nickelodeon / TeenNick / Oxygen / Retro TV / Rewind TV / Start TV / TBS / TNN / Spike TV / TNT / TV Land / TV One / Up TV (UPtv) / USA Network (USA) / WGN America / YTA TV (formerly GoodLife and AmericanLife)


Sitcoms Online Message Boards - Forums  

Go Back   Sitcoms Online Message Boards - Forums > General TV News and Discussion
Register Community View Today's Active Threads (No CC/CC Only) Search Photo Galleries Calendar FAQ

Notices

SitcomsOnline.com News Blog Headlines Facebook X/Twitter Bluesky Threads Instagram YouTube RSS

Remembering Legendary Sitcom Director James Burrows; The Audacity Season 2 Coming in 2027
Sitcom Stars on Talk Shows; This Week in Sitcoms (Week of June 22, 2026)
SitcomsOnline Digest: Fox Agrees to Purchase Roku; Mickey Mouse Set to Star in Home Alone Remake
Apple TV Comedy Brothers Details; Jimmy Kimmel Live! Summer Guest Hosts
Still Hot in Cleveland Podcast with Valerie Bertinelli; Final Season of The Proud Family: Louder and Prouder
Home Alone and Mickey Mouse Come Together; New Tubi Movie Starring Sophia Bush and Jerry O'Connell
Netflix's The Four Seasons Renewed for Season 3; Two Season Renewal for Apple TV Series


New on DVD and Blu-ray

Happy's Place - Season One (Blu-ray) Two and a Half Men - The Complete Series (Blu-ray) Abbott Elementary - The Complete Fourth Season (DVD) I Love Lucy - The Complete Series - 75th Anniversary Edition (DVD) The Office - The Complete Series - Superfan Extended Episodes (Blu-ray)

11/04/25 - Happy's Place - Season One (Blu-ray) (DVD)
11/11/25 - Rick and Morty - Season 8 (Blu-ray) (DVD)
11/11/25 - SpongeBob SquarePants - The Complete Fifteenth Season (DVD)
11/11/25 - Two and a Half Men - The Complete Series (Blu-ray)
12/02/25 - Tom and Jerry - The Golden Era Anthology (1940-1958) (Blu-ray) (DVD)
12/16/25 - Lippy the Lion and Hardy Har Har - The Complete Series (Blu-ray)
12/16/25 - Wally Gator - The Complete Series (Blu-ray)
01/20/26 - The Woody Woodpecker and Friends Golden Age Collection (Blu-ray)
01/27/26 - The New Fred and Barney Show - The Complete Series (Blu-ray)
02/11/26 - Tom and Jerry - The Complete CinemaScope Collection (Blu-ray)
03/24/26 - Looney Tunes Collector's Vault - Volume 2 (Blu-ray)
04/11/26 - Abbott Elementary - The Complete Fourth Season (DVD)
04/21/26 - Famous Studios Champion Collection (Blu-ray) (DVD)
05/19/26 - I Love Lucy - The Complete Series - 75th Anniversary Edition (DVD)
05/19/26 - Looney Tunes Cartoons - The Complete Series (Blu-ray) (DVD)
07/14/26 - The Office - The Complete Series - Superfan Extended Episodes (Blu-ray)
07/28/26 - I Love Lucy - The Complete Series - 75th Anniversary Edition (Blu-ray)

More Recent and Upcoming TV DVD and Blu-ray Releases / TV Shows on DVD, Blu-ray and Prime Video / DVD Reviews Archive


Search Sitcoms Online:



Donate

Please make a donation if you can help with Sitcoms Online's web hosting costs. Thanks for your support!

We receive a small commission on all DVDs, Blu-rays, CDs, Books, and any other items ordered through our Amazon.com links as an associate. Thanks for using our links for your online shopping!

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 04-12-2013, 02:11 PM   #1
george ho
Member
Occasional Poster
 
Join Date: May 19, 2010
Posts: 85
Default Does ageism on sitcoms matter?

Watching I Love Lucy again, I could not bear its stale (or grating) stories and jokes anymore. Same goes for the rest of pre-'70s shows. Some exceptions are Bachelor Father, a show of a widowed father and his daughter with a Chinese butler. Unfortunately, I no longer get to it anymore. Also, some episodes of Gilligan's Island, I Dream of Jeannie, and Gidget are still solid, but I don't have to watch them again. Syndication tends to treat escapism as its top priority, but I don't feel entertained. I feel annoyed that issues are omitted and over-the-top jokes are all over place. If there are issues, they are treated as jokes, especially in military sitcoms.

Why should today's viewers run away from issues of the past and look forward to something so degrading? Murphy Brown is cited as awfully dated because... well, titular character is self-indulgent, arrogant, obnoxious, whiny, and downright vindictive; humor is repetitive, like secretaries; issues may not be related to today's people anymore, and references are inadequately defined or understood. Community and 30 Rock seem to be more dated than Murphy Brown because... they must have rehashed "Murphy Brown" and split it into "community college" and "NBC-Universal Studio", yet they do not have main characters as newsanchors. To me, Murphy Brown was groundbreaking at its prime before cable news networks took away integrity and respect of journalism in favor of viewership and "lowest common denominator" demos.

In one scene of an episode, some newsanchor was investigating the homeless, but he would be disappointed that viewers would rather watch a tabloid-trash show than his hard-working piece an investigated issue. He admitted this to his pal Murphy Brown at the restaurant. Even today, newspieces wouldn't save homelessness; rather they are investigated by journalists. Nothing was more poignant than this.

Two and a Half Men and 2000s NBC sitcoms wouldn't reach the poignancy of Murphy Brown today, yet everybody called Murphy Brown awfully dated.
george ho is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2013, 02:21 PM   #2
MacLeaper
Child of the 80s
Forum 3000 Club Member
 
MacLeaper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 20, 2001
Posts: 3,359
Default

I'm not sure if I understand the question. Are you asking if it matters how old the sitcom is when someone is watching (like watching the 1950s show "I Love Lucy" in 2013)? That is what I think you were trying to get at- at first I thought you were asking about prejudices against certain ages in TV sitcoms (typically against either old people or young people- or perhaps both.)
__________________
"Oh boy!" - Dr. Sam Beckett
"You can do anything you wanna do if you put your mind to it." - MacGyver
"Have mercy!" - Uncle Jesse
"Ha, I kill me!" - ALF
"I am The Way, The Truth and The Life. No man comes to The Father but by Me."- Jesus Christ (John 14:6)
MacLeaper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2013, 02:27 PM   #3
george ho
Member
Occasional Poster
 
Join Date: May 19, 2010
Posts: 85
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by MacLeaper
I'm not sure if I understand the question. Are you asking if it matters how old the sitcom is when someone is watching (like watching the 1950s show "I Love Lucy" in 2013)? That is what I think you were trying to get at- at first I thought you were asking about prejudices against certain ages in TV sitcoms (typically against either old people or young people- or perhaps both.)
In a sense, yeah. However, I couldn't come up with a better title. I'll edit the title if there is a good alternative.
george ho is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2013, 09:57 PM   #4
Ant-Lox
Cloud Watcher
Senior Member
 
Ant-Lox's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 18, 2004
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 1,824
Default

Murphy Brown isn't dated, IMO. It's not popular with syndication because it alienates a large portion of people, and you would need to constantly google the people they bring up. I watched the show while it aired, and I was in on the current events, so they are fine to me.

Many shows don't age well, I have not seen an episode of 30 Rock, but I bet it has a ton of references to current events, and current tech. Shows like Seinfeld are able to be somewhat timeless because of the broad approach to humor. Seinfeld himself jokes about everyday subjects, which cross all platforms from rich to poor, black to white, it's why the show still works.

I think you are talking about shows glossing over touchy subjects, The 70's had some of the most honest sitcoms to date.
__________________
Currently Watching:
Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee

Sports Allegiances
Philadelphia 76ers
Philadelphia Flyers
Philadelphia Phillies
Philadelphia Eagles
Detroit Red Wings
New York Football Giants



Ant-Lox is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:21 PM.


Although the administrators and moderators of the Sitcoms Online Message Boards will attempt to keep all objectionable messages off this forum, it is impossible for us to review all messages. All messages express the views of the author, and neither the owners of the Sitcoms Online Message Boards, nor vBulletin Solutions Inc. (developers of vBulletin) will be held responsible for the content of any message. The owners of the Sitcoms Online Message Boards reserve the right to remove, edit, move or close any thread for any reason.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.