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Dazinho · 03-23-2013, 01:07 PM

Afternoon all and apologies for having been away for a while.

A quick poser for anyone who's interested - whose performances on UM would have scored highly for 'artistic merit', were sort of convincing and seemed to make logical sense up to a point, but you came away simply not believing them, or they were later disproved?

There are many good liars in the world and UM is no exception to this, although spotting a convincing liar is a pretty difficult thing to do without some sort of intuition or tip-off (i.e. he's a politician!!).

Over and out,

Dazinho

Steve W. · 03-23-2013, 01:23 PM

I still think it's possible that Rob Shafer made up the whole story about his girlfriend Angela Hammond being abducted from the phone booth. I lean towards not believing it with a slight chance that it is all actually true.

I would like to know more details from Rob about what exactly Angela was doing before the point that she reached the phone booth on the main road of the town.

MegtheEgg86 · 03-23-2013, 04:45 PM

Jeff MacDonald.

unsolved88 · 03-23-2013, 05:49 PM

Charlotte Pollis' mother and siblings.

soilentgreen · 03-23-2013, 06:54 PM

Stuart Heaton seemed fairly convincing in his segment - enough that even with the paring wounds to his hands and the eyewitness accounts of his particular vehicle being at the victim's home, if there hadn't been DNA evidence that further corroborated the case against him, the possibility is that reasonable doubt might have won out at the trial.

wiseguy182 · 03-24-2013, 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve W.

I still think it's possible that Rob Shafer made up the whole story about his girlfriend Angela Hammond being abducted from the phone booth. I lean towards not believing it with a slight chance that it is all actually true.

I would like to know more details from Rob about what exactly Angela was doing before the point that she reached the phone booth on the main road of the town.

There isn't a single, solitary piece of evidence that links Rob Shafer to this crime. None. It's a theory that was born out of people obsessed with the case and trying to look impressive by "thinking outside of the box". If you know more or want to elaborate, please share.

And being that Rob wasn't with Angela in the moments immediately preceeding her abduction, how could he possibly know what she was doing?

MegtheEgg86 · 03-24-2013, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by unsolved88

Charlotte Pollis' mother and siblings.

Agreed.

Glen Consagra.

Steve W. · 03-24-2013, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by wiseguy182

There isn't a single, solitary piece of evidence that links Rob Shafer to this crime. None. It's a theory that was born out of people obsessed with the case and trying to look impressive by "thinking outside of the box". If you know more or want to elaborate, please share.

And being that Rob wasn't with Angela in the moments immediately preceeding her abduction, how could he possibly know what she was doing?

There isn't any evidence or witnesses (besides Rob's account) that can prove that there was a dirty, bearded man whom abducted Angela Hammond and drove a truck with a fish decal on the back, either.

RobinW · 03-24-2013, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MegtheEgg86

Jeff MacDonald.

Yep, there's your hands down winner! Unless he decides to confess someday, the guy has successfully convinced enough people that they are going to be proclaiming his innocence until the end of time.

Stephen Geri is a guy whom I found convincing to a point until it became apparent that he was going out of his way to look TOO convincing. There was no real evidence against him, but the way he asked for receipts at all those businesses and then went back there the day after the murder to remind everyone he had been there just reeks of a guy trying way too hard to establish an alibi.

MegtheEgg86 · 03-24-2013, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by RobinW

Stephen Geri is a guy whom I found convincing to a point until it became apparent that he was going out of his way to look TOO convincing. There was no real evidence against him, but the way he asked for receipts at all those businesses and then went back there the day after the murder to remind everyone he had been there just reeks of a guy trying way too hard to establish an alibi.

Yes! That whole the-one-morning-I-change-my-routine-my-wife-gets-murdered thing never set well with me.

dynoguy88 · 03-24-2013, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve W.

There isn't any evidence or witnesses (besides Rob's account) that can prove that there was a dirty, bearded man whom abducted Angela Hammond and drove a truck with a fish decal on the back, either.

He was cleared as a suspect in 1992, most likely because phone records could verify the call from the payphone to the Shafer house. And because Rob's little brother could verify that he was babysitting him that entire time.

I'm really, REALLY surprised people still think he was responsible for her abduction.

cordwainer1453 · 03-24-2013, 09:34 PM

The "Confess Your Crime" guys were pretty convincing even though they were lying.

flytrapp · 03-24-2013, 09:52 PM

Lisa Penz. She was soooo lying when she said that basically everyone that came through the door to apply for a job was on drugs. Total BS! She only said that to down play the fact that she didn't do proper background checks and reference checks when hiring Bonnie Wilder.

TheCars1986 · 03-26-2013, 10:59 AM

Jeffrey MacDonald
Bob Hall
Glenn Consagra
John Branion
Stuart Heaton
Larry Race

I'm still amazed that people still want to blame Rob Shaffer. The guy was ruled out as a suspect by authorities shortly after Angela Hammond was abducted.

McBevis · 03-26-2013, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by TheCars1986

Jeffrey MacDonald
Bob Hall
Glenn Consagra
John Branion
Stuart Heaton
Larry Race

I'm still amazed that people still want to blame Rob Shaffer. The guy was ruled out as a suspect by authorities shortly after Angela Hammond was abducted.

I never thought John Branion was guilty.

03-23-2013, 01:07 PM	#1
Dazinho Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Dec 09, 2011 Location: England Posts: 64	Convincing performances you did not believe... Afternoon all and apologies for having been away for a while. A quick poser for anyone who's interested - whose performances on UM would have scored highly for 'artistic merit', were sort of convincing and seemed to make logical sense up to a point, but you came away simply not believing them, or they were later disproved? There are many good liars in the world and UM is no exception to this, although spotting a convincing liar is a pretty difficult thing to do without some sort of intuition or tip-off (i.e. he's a politician!!). Over and out, Dazinho

03-23-2013, 04:45 PM	#3
MegtheEgg86 Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Jun 19, 2008 Location: The Volunteer State Posts: 5,156	Jeff MacDonald.
	__________________ "Why is she lying?, it makes me wonder. What is she hiding?, it makes me wonder." Go Vols!

03-23-2013, 01:23 PM	#2
Steve W. Member Forum Regular Join Date: Mar 03, 2010 Posts: 870	I still think it's possible that Rob Shafer made up the whole story about his girlfriend Angela Hammond being abducted from the phone booth. I lean towards not believing it with a slight chance that it is all actually true. I would like to know more details from Rob about what exactly Angela was doing before the point that she reached the phone booth on the main road of the town.

03-23-2013, 05:49 PM	#4
unsolved88 Member Forum Regular Join Date: Apr 16, 2006 Location: Daytona Beach, FL Posts: 514	Charlotte Pollis' mother and siblings.

03-23-2013, 06:54 PM	#5
soilentgreen Member Forum Regular Join Date: Oct 13, 2005 Posts: 622	Stuart Heaton seemed fairly convincing in his segment - enough that even with the paring wounds to his hands and the eyewitness accounts of his particular vehicle being at the victim's home, if there hadn't been DNA evidence that further corroborated the case against him, the possibility is that reasonable doubt might have won out at the trial.

03-24-2013, 09:34 PM	#12
cordwainer1453 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jun 05, 2011 Location: Mass Posts: 268	The "Confess Your Crime" guys were pretty convincing even though they were lying.

03-24-2013, 09:52 PM	#13
flytrapp Member Frequent Poster Join Date: May 03, 2011 Location: Circleville Posts: 446	Lisa Penz. She was soooo lying when she said that basically everyone that came through the door to apply for a job was on drugs. Total BS! She only said that to down play the fact that she didn't do proper background checks and reference checks when hiring Bonnie Wilder.

03-26-2013, 10:59 AM	#14
TheCars1986 #VLSKMS Forum Fanatic Join Date: Nov 22, 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 8,606	Jeffrey MacDonald Bob Hall Glenn Consagra John Branion Stuart Heaton Larry Race I'm still amazed that people still want to blame Rob Shaffer. The guy was ruled out as a suspect by authorities shortly after Angela Hammond was abducted.