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Old 12-09-2012, 02:42 PM   #1
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They should make a continuation of the series focusing on mike and gloria's grandson joey stivic following the footsteps of his late grandfather archie bunker, that would be interesting.
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They should make a continuation of the series focusing on mike and gloria's grandson joey stivic following the footsteps of his late grandfather archie bunker, that would be interesting.
They tried something like that in 704 Hauser Street (1994), where Joey Stivic was a "guest" in the Cumberbatche's house. The problem is that when you continue on with a storyline, it doesn't hold the audience's interest for long. This is also why "The Sanford Arms" failed miserably after "Sanford and Son," and why 704 Hauser Street did so poorly.

If or when a series becomes successful enough to keep generating new momentum, that series will make an impression on people that will in turn cause them to talk about it to their friends, and so forth. But once it loses its luster, and hard changes come to the show, interest falls away and it becomes stale. That is one of the reasons why Archie Bunker's Place never does well in syndication. To people who hold it to the standards of "All in the Family," it appears as though the series begins on a "quarter tank of gas" and by the end of that series (after Edith dying and incorporating new characters into the show), it runs on "fumes." From there, any new addition is pretty much "raising the dead."
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What if there was a new version of All in the Family? Archie would be a teabag conservative who has Fox News on all day, and Mike would be a member of the Occupy Wall Street movement!
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It would never work again. That ship has sailed, unfortunately. I'm a huge fan of the show but the actors associated with it are so inextricably linked to it (and deservedly so) that any attempt to "reboot" would be unsuccessful, in my mind.

What they SHOULD have done was to have a proper finale back when everyone was still with us. ABP went off the air in 1983, and Carroll O'Connor died in 2001, so they had eighteen years to do something and they blew it. Sad as it makes me, the show really can only be enjoyed in reruns now.
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They tried something like that in 704 Hauser Street (1994), where Joey Stivic was a "guest" in the Cumberbatche's house. The problem is that when you continue on with a storyline, it doesn't hold the audience's interest for long. This is also why "The Sanford Arms" failed miserably after "Sanford and Son," and why 704 Hauser Street did so poorly.

If or when a series becomes successful enough to keep generating new momentum, that series will make an impression on people that will in turn cause them to talk about it to their friends, and so forth. But once it loses its luster, and hard changes come to the show, interest falls away and it becomes stale. That is one of the reasons why Archie Bunker's Place never does well in syndication. To people who hold it to the standards of "All in the Family," it appears as though the series begins on a "quarter tank of gas" and by the end of that series (after Edith dying and incorporating new characters into the show), it runs on "fumes." From there, any new addition is pretty much "raising the dead."
Very well said.

I would be interested in watching 704 Hauser Street just for the heck of it though.
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What if there was a new version of All in the Family? Archie would be a teabag conservative who has Fox News on all day, and Mike would be a member of the Occupy Wall Street movement!

That's just too funny!!!!
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I actually liked the one episode I saw of 704 Hauser Street. I can't see how it would have lasted very long, though. What I did like about it was that it kind of referenced the show, but wasn't 'remaking' it.
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I actually liked the one episode I saw of 704 Hauser Street. I can't see how it would have lasted very long, though. What I did like about it was that it kind of referenced the show, but wasn't 'remaking' it.
From what I've read, it sounds like an interesting concept.
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They basically have already revived it. Right now, Tim Allen's Last Man Standing (in it's second season on ABC) has drastically changed the show with re-casting and openly pursuing a format very similar to All in the Family. Quite frankly, it's gone over like a turd in a punch bowl with the fans and critics. It's immediately evident that having an Archie Bunker-type as the main character of a sitcom in the year 2012 is quite off-putting. Any continuation or direct revival of the original series would most likely be just as crappy.
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What they SHOULD have done was to have a proper finale back when everyone was still with us . ABP went off the air in 1983, and Carroll O'Connor died in 2001, so they had eighteen years to do something and they blew it .

I remember reading in TV Guide where Norman Lear wanted to do a one -- time special with Archie Bunker working at a car rental service . I'd rather remember Archie Bunker the way he was when we last saw him -- making a good living running "Archie Bunker's Place" .

If he sold his house at 704 Hauser Street to Ernie Cumberbatch, he should be living in a nice apartment . I imagine his nieces, Barbara Lee "Billie" Bunker and Stephanie Mills, would still be living nearby and helping out at his bar every so often . That said, there should have been a fitting farewell for Archie Bunker .
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That well, huh?!

I haven't seen Last Man Standing yet. I was really rooting for Tim Allen to come back strong into primetime after Home Improvement, and excited when I first heard he was coming back with a new show, but then I heard some not so great reviews for the show and decided to skip it.
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I remember reading in TV Guide where Norman Lear wanted to do a one -- time special with Archie Bunker working at a car rental service . I'd rather remember Archie Bunker the way he was when we last saw him -- making a good living running "Archie Bunker's Place" .

If he sold his house at 704 Hauser Street to Ernie Cumberbatch, he should be living in a nice apartment . I imagine his nieces, Barbara Lee "Billie" Bunker and Stephanie Mills, would still be living nearby and helping out at his bar every so often . That said, there should have been a fitting farewell for Archie Bunker .

I don't like that they killed Edith off in the end. I know that Jean Stapleton didn't want to continue on with the show, but I think they should've ended it with her happy and healthy with Archie and Stephanie.
I don't like how Gloria and The Meathead separated either, but that's another story!!
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I remember reading in TV Guide where Norman Lear wanted to do a one -- time special with Archie Bunker working at a car rental service . I'd rather remember Archie Bunker the way he was when we last saw him -- making a good living running "Archie Bunker's Place" .

If he sold his house at 704 Hauser Street to Ernie Cumberbatch, he should be living in a nice apartment . I imagine his nieces, Barbara Lee "Billie" Bunker and Stephanie Mills, would still be living nearby and helping out at his bar every so often . That said, there should have been a fitting farewell for Archie Bunker .
yes, I agree. But a revival of AITF? NO WAY!!
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