Why 'Last Man Standing' will face cancellation - Sitcoms Online Message Boards

TMC · 11-10-2012, 03:21 AM

Keep in mind that this was written back in August:
http://tv.yahoo.com/news/why-last-ma...182400419.html

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"Last Man Standing" made news recently by making some cast changes and when ABC decided to place the show on Fridays in the fall. These changes will not be enough to increase viewership or even hold the current viewership totals. Fans of the show should be very surprised if the show makes it through 2012 without facing cancellation.

Seen it all before

In "Last Man Standing," Tim Allen plays a similar character to his Tim "The Tool Man" Taylor role on "Home Improvement." He is a guy who tries to hold on to as much testosterone as possible and attempts to prove himself as a "man's man" at every opportunity. He goes up against a sensible wife who believes it would be better if he would relax and try to enjoy the more cultural aspects of life, or at least be less narrow-minded about "unmanly" things. During the first season run of the show, the ratings dropped by half as more and more viewers realized they had seen most of the show's formula once before.

Changing Kristin

The executives at ABC decided it would be a strong move for the show to recast the part of Kristin. The eldest daughter on the show will now be played by Amanda Fuller instead of Alexandra Krosney. Instead of recasting the part, the creators should have given the character some character. Eve, the youngest daughter, is a tomboy who attempts to do everything to stay on her father's good side from good grades to taking an interest in the same things he likes. The middle child, Mandy, is a girly-girl who would rather shop than study. She is a caricature of a modern high school girl, but at least she has character.

The creators of "Last Man Standing" tried to give a little more strength to Kristin by having her date Kyle, her father's coworker, but that only lasted a few episodes before the concept disappeared from the show. They failed at making Kristin a relatable character by giving her few comedic lines and even less of an opportunity to show her originality. As per usual, though, actors have to pay for the mistakes of the creators.

Friday move

Shows rarely improve in the ratings after a move unless the move is to one of the prime weekday slots. What is worse is how "Last Man Standing" is being paired with Reba McEntire's new shot "Malibu Country." The preview ABC has placed online makes the new show seem bland and boring. The only programs saving Friday night for ABC will be "Shark Tank" and "What Would You Do?" The first primetime hour of the evening is more mush than meat. The changes ABC made to "Last Man Standing" are a strong indication that this show will be history after the 2012-2013 season, if not sooner.

Mr. Television · 11-10-2012, 08:57 AM

We'll see how ratings where from last night but the show did pretty well last week.

TMC · 11-10-2012, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Stuck In The '70's

We'll see how ratings where from last night but the show did pretty well last week.

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.a...000c189621e07#

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'Malibu Country' ratings drop as 'Boss' rises
by James Hibberd

A Friday night reversal. After last week’s strong debuts by ABC
comedies Last Man Standing and Malibu Country, this week CBS’
Undercover Boss rose up to overthrow the sitcoms.

Boss had 9 million viewers and a 2.1 adult demo rating, up 33.333333
etc. percent from last week. That not only won 8 p.m. but also came
very close to topping ABC’s Shark Tank (6.7 million, 2.1) at 9 p.m.
Tank slipped from last week’s series high, which is no surprise since
the ABC sitcoms provided a softer lead-in this week, but this is still
its second-biggest number ever.

Last Man Standing (7.3 million, 1.6) was down 20 percent and Malibu
Country (7.2 million, 1.6) fell 30 percent. Here’s how an optimistic
ABC executive would probably look at that: Well, at least they’re
doing the same. In other words, at least the ratings aren’t showing
some big drop from returning show Last Man Standing to the brand new
Reba McEntire comedy. That suggests they make for a good team and that
viewers aren’t rejecting Malibu in particular. And they’re still
coming in second place in the hour.

TMC · 05-14-2013, 04:35 PM

ABC probably had enough common sense to limit the episode number and move it to Fridays so that it would be harder to ignore the inevitable outrage overall of the changes in regards to both tone (Home Improvement w/ girls to All in the Family 2012-13) and cast members.

irehtman · 08-06-2013, 05:45 PM

They cannot return Tim to the movies for no reason at all!

TMC · 08-07-2013, 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by irehtman

They cannot return Tim to the movies for no reason at all!

Why every time, I see you post about this show here, it's virtually the same thing (e.g. Tim Allen needs to return to movies and they need to recast all of his daughters)!?

irehtman · 08-07-2013, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by TMC

Why every time, I see you post about this show here, it's virtually the same thing (e.g. Tim Allen needs to return to movies and they need to recast all of his daughters)!?

Tim is already in the movies and bringing him back to another TV series is wrong! It is like turning the clock back, which is erratic!

They should have pick a well-know actor, who did not end up in the movies at all, to play Mike Baxter better!

If they got rid of Alexandra and I know Molly is too dramatic and Kristin is like Alexandra, THEN Molly and Kristin also need to bit get rid of.

I'm sorry that nobody like Amanda, but we cannot get rid of her. Now, we may have to find two more actresses, who act like Amanda, to replace both Molly and Kristin!

liane49 · 11-01-2013, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TMC

Keep in mind that this was written back in August:
http://tv.yahoo.com/news/why-last-ma...182400419.html

I don't find much to watch on Fri. so I'm glad it's on Fri.

comedyfreak · 11-02-2013, 05:30 AM

I am starting to like the show more now. The Halloween episode was good.

irehtman · 03-22-2014, 07:27 AM

It was the order from the TV critics to replace Alexandra with Amanda.

JO Sweet Heart · 04-29-2014, 10:17 PM

^^^ To me, they are nuts because Alexandra is who made the character of Kristin likeable. Amanda comes across as a person who thinks that they have the answer to every problem which in my opinion can be a major turn off.

God bless you and her and Alexandra always!!!

Holly

P.S. Has it been said yet if this show will return for a 4th season?

TMC · 04-30-2014, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by irehtman

It was the order from the TV critics to replace Alexandra with Amanda.

And where exactly did you find or get that idea or impression!?

Chocolate Moose · 04-30-2014, 01:28 PM

This information is almost 2 years old so I am not sure how relevant it is.

Yes, the oldest daughter was replaced and that's a Jump the Shark issue, but since they didn't give her much of a role, I don't see how will make or break the show. I would say that the sister, her boyfriend, and the little boy are last on the list of my favorite characters on this show anyway. They not irritating or annoying, they're just not very visible.

And some of us, like me, have not seen Tim's other shows and we are enjoying him in this one.

The show is almost done for the season, right? The ratings are mostly in and the decision will have to be made.

irehtman · 05-07-2014, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by TMC

And where exactly did you find or get that idea or impression!?

Ask any of the strict TV critics watching this show and they will tell you seriously!

irehtman · 05-07-2014, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Chocolate Moose

This information is almost 2 years old so I am not sure how relevant it is.

Yes, the oldest daughter was replaced and that's a Jump the Shark issue, but since they didn't give her much of a role, I don't see how will make or break the show. I would say that the sister, her boyfriend, and the little boy are last on the list of my favorite characters on this show anyway. They not irritating or annoying, they're just not very visible.

And some of us, like me, have not seen Tim's other shows and we are enjoying him in this one.

The show is almost done for the season, right? The ratings are mostly in and the decision will have to be made.

If they change the oldest daughter, then they should change the two younger daughters immediately.

At the same time, while Tim continues to appear in this show, he should also appearing in new current movies at the same time right now!

I wish they find an actor, who was well-known for a long time, and did not end up in the movies at all, in order to play Mike Baxter correctly than Tim.

Tim did well in such as doing the voice parts on the Toy Story trilogy.

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JO Sweet Heart Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Mar 11, 2012 Location: East Tennessee Posts: 7,875	^^^ To me, they are nuts because Alexandra is who made the character of Kristin likeable. Amanda comes across as a person who thinks that they have the answer to every problem which in my opinion can be a major turn off. God bless you and her and Alexandra always!!! Holly P.S. Has it been said yet if this show will return for a 4th season?
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Chocolate Moose Member Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 21, 2007 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 4,898	This information is almost 2 years old so I am not sure how relevant it is. Yes, the oldest daughter was replaced and that's a Jump the Shark issue, but since they didn't give her much of a role, I don't see how will make or break the show. I would say that the sister, her boyfriend, and the little boy are last on the list of my favorite characters on this show anyway. They not irritating or annoying, they're just not very visible. And some of us, like me, have not seen Tim's other shows and we are enjoying him in this one. The show is almost done for the season, right? The ratings are mostly in and the decision will have to be made.
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05-14-2013, 04:35 PM	#4
TMC Member Forum Idol Join Date: Jan 09, 2001 Posts: 126,142	ABC probably had enough common sense to limit the episode number and move it to Fridays so that it would be harder to ignore the inevitable outrage overall of the changes in regards to both tone (Home Improvement w/ girls to All in the Family 2012-13) and cast members.

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irehtman Member Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 15, 2013 Location: Montgomery County, Maryland Posts: 4,826	They cannot return Tim to the movies for no reason at all!

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irehtman Member Forum 4000 Club Member Join Date: Mar 15, 2013 Location: Montgomery County, Maryland Posts: 4,826	It was the order from the TV critics to replace Alexandra with Amanda.