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jasonbigley · 10-31-2012, 11:44 PM

I believe in God, but I am skeptical of these TV Preachers. I guess I would consider myself spiritual. I dont consider myself into a certain religion category. Back to the TV Preachers I was watching a clip of Inside Edition and they were doing a story on TV Preachers living like rockstars. They showed the mansions they lived in and the private jets they owned. The one reporter was trying to talk to Kenneth Copeland and he was VERY rude to her. The one woman on this episode said her deceased mother sent ALOT of money to Kenneth Copeland hoping for a miracle cure. Nothing happened. She went on to say that the televangelists office furniture costed almost as much as her house. I was too young to remember this, but when Jimmy Swaggart was in trouble with those prostitutes, that to me would put doubt in my head about these TV preachers. I also watched a clip of James Randi debunking Peter Popoff. He was a so called faith healer who healed members of his church audience. But Mr. Randi exposed Mr, Popoff by proving he used a hidden microphone to get information about the audience members.
Faith healers are another thing to be skeptical of. They claim to heal people but I have read and seen countless clips that prove otherwise. I have heard about people attending to these Faith healing shows. The healer tells them they are healed but 2 hours later or 2 days later, they die. Another thing is, why cant they heal amputees or people with mental diseases? Some of the tricks they use are hiring actors to be in the audience that actually are not sick to begin with that way when the person is "so called healed" it will look like they are healed to the people watching the show. The other trick is the example I gave with Peter Popoff.
Now, onto Sylvia Browne. She told Shawn Hornbecks parents back in 2003 that he was dead. That was false since he turned up alive and well. She told a woman who attended one of her shows to keep her dying son in the hospital because he was going to get better. He died 2 days later and he wanted to be brought home before he died. She also charges $750 for a half hour phone reading- thats ALOT of money (to me) to be charging someone-that alone spells R I P O F F to me.

Yooch · 11-01-2012, 12:00 AM

As a Christian, I don't automatically dismiss people, but there are many whom I am very skeptical of on TV. My gut tells me the ones who are shady or not, and experience usually proves me right. What a phony will do is usually speak in half-truths. Part of what they say is true, but some of these people are phony through and through.

I think Billy Graham was the real deal though, and legit, but there are many who frankly give me the creeps. For me, I will stick with my local church and try to follow Jesus' teachings best I can. I do believe in prayer, faith and miracles, but I think many of the individual purveyors of these things have another agenda, and it is not a holy one. Just my opinion.

tiredmike59 · 11-01-2012, 12:12 AM

Tv preacher " Send me money or you're going to Hell in a handbag "

Vahan · 11-01-2012, 12:18 AM

I can't stand Pat Robertson.

End of story.

catlover79 · 11-01-2012, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Yooch

As a Christian, I don't automatically dismiss people, but there are many whom I am very skeptical of on TV. My gut tells me the ones who are shady or not, and experience usually proves me right. What a phony will do is usually speak in half-truths. Part of what they say is true, but some of these people are phony through and through.

I think Billy Graham was the real deal though, and legit, but there are many who frankly give me the creeps. For me, I will stick with my local church and try to follow Jesus' teachings best I can. I do believe in prayer, faith and miracles, but I think many of the individual purveyors of these things have another agenda, and it is not a holy one. Just my opinion.

Agreed - I even went with my church group to Billy Graham's Crusade when it came to old Munincipal Stadium in Cleveland in June 1994. But Pat Robertson, Jim Bakker, Crespo Dollar...

MickeyMac · 11-01-2012, 11:09 AM

I gotta admit I like Creflo Dollar.

Goldilocks · 11-01-2012, 01:07 PM

I like Creflo too. And Joel Osteen is cool.

phoebe7165 · 11-01-2012, 02:02 PM

Sylvia Browne - what a huge piece of BS!!! I would watch her on Montel Williams just to hear what fake and phony garbage would come out of her mouth.

MrCleveland · 11-02-2012, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Goldilocks

I like Creflo too. And Joel Osteen is cool.

Not a fan of either.

I don't watch any TV Preacher shows, but I think I'll stick to Ernest Angely and Charles Stanley. (Ever hear about The Word Church in Cleveland)?

And who's Sylvia Browne?

Regulus · 11-02-2012, 10:43 AM

I went to Texas for my annual Amusement Park-Hopping Trip in 2011. I attended a service at Joel Osteen's "Megachurch" in Houston just for the fun of it, I "relieved" them of a Christmas Tree Ornament before merrily going about my way. Been there, done that!

Mr. Television · 11-02-2012, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by catlover79

Agreed - I even went with my church group to Billy Graham's Crusade when it came to old Munincipal Stadium in Cleveland in June 1994. But Pat Robertson, Jim Bakker, Crespo Dollar...

I like Billy Graham. I think he's the best. The rest of them...believe at your own risk.

AKA · 11-02-2012, 01:10 PM

Sadly, Billy Graham has gone off the deep end in recent years, even lowering his long-held standards in the name of politics. Terrible.

catlover79 · 11-02-2012, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MrCleveland

Not a fan of either.

I don't watch any TV Preacher shows, but I think I'll stick to Ernest Angely and Charles Stanley. (Ever hear about The Word Church in Cleveland)?

And who's Sylvia Browne?

Sylvia Browne is a famous psychic. Personally, I think Miss Cleo had more credibility than her.

Speaking of Cleveland preachers, I did like Knute Larsen from The Chapel. He didn't have a show (that I know of), but did many TV ads for The Chapel. I also saw/read interviews with him and he also seems like the real deal. Last I heard, I think he moved out of Ohio.

MickeyMac · 11-02-2012, 03:23 PM

I cant possibly put TV ministers and psychics in the same category. I could say more, but I wont go into details here.

robyrob · 11-02-2012, 06:39 PM

personally i think they are all con men and thieves that should be locked up.

if you want to donate money to a church give it to your local church, not some charlatan on TV that drives a $300,000 car and lives in a multi-million dollar house.

10-31-2012, 11:44 PM	#1
jasonbigley Member Forum Regular Join Date: Apr 14, 2008 Location: California Posts: 501	Tv Preachers, Faith Healers and Sylvia Browne: Your Thoughts I believe in God, but I am skeptical of these TV Preachers. I guess I would consider myself spiritual. I dont consider myself into a certain religion category. Back to the TV Preachers I was watching a clip of Inside Edition and they were doing a story on TV Preachers living like rockstars. They showed the mansions they lived in and the private jets they owned. The one reporter was trying to talk to Kenneth Copeland and he was VERY rude to her. The one woman on this episode said her deceased mother sent ALOT of money to Kenneth Copeland hoping for a miracle cure. Nothing happened. She went on to say that the televangelists office furniture costed almost as much as her house. I was too young to remember this, but when Jimmy Swaggart was in trouble with those prostitutes, that to me would put doubt in my head about these TV preachers. I also watched a clip of James Randi debunking Peter Popoff. He was a so called faith healer who healed members of his church audience. But Mr. Randi exposed Mr, Popoff by proving he used a hidden microphone to get information about the audience members. Faith healers are another thing to be skeptical of. They claim to heal people but I have read and seen countless clips that prove otherwise. I have heard about people attending to these Faith healing shows. The healer tells them they are healed but 2 hours later or 2 days later, they die. Another thing is, why cant they heal amputees or people with mental diseases? Some of the tricks they use are hiring actors to be in the audience that actually are not sick to begin with that way when the person is "so called healed" it will look like they are healed to the people watching the show. The other trick is the example I gave with Peter Popoff. Now, onto Sylvia Browne. She told Shawn Hornbecks parents back in 2003 that he was dead. That was false since he turned up alive and well. She told a woman who attended one of her shows to keep her dying son in the hospital because he was going to get better. He died 2 days later and he wanted to be brought home before he died. She also charges $750 for a half hour phone reading- thats ALOT of money (to me) to be charging someone-that alone spells R I P O F F to me.

11-01-2012, 12:00 AM	#2
Yooch Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Apr 07, 2006 Location: California Posts: 3,180	As a Christian, I don't automatically dismiss people, but there are many whom I am very skeptical of on TV. My gut tells me the ones who are shady or not, and experience usually proves me right. What a phony will do is usually speak in half-truths. Part of what they say is true, but some of these people are phony through and through. I think Billy Graham was the real deal though, and legit, but there are many who frankly give me the creeps. For me, I will stick with my local church and try to follow Jesus' teachings best I can. I do believe in prayer, faith and miracles, but I think many of the individual purveyors of these things have another agenda, and it is not a holy one. Just my opinion.
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11-01-2012, 01:07 PM	#7
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11-01-2012, 02:02 PM	#8
phoebe7165 Pop Culture Goddess Forum Fanatic Join Date: Apr 15, 2003 Location: US of A - the country of "really bad music" lovers Posts: 11,600	Sylvia Browne - what a huge piece of BS!!! I would watch her on Montel Williams just to hear what fake and phony garbage would come out of her mouth.
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11-02-2012, 10:43 AM	#10
Regulus Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Feb 07, 2011 Location: Port Orange, Florida Avatar - Poiuyt Posts: 3,374	I went to Texas for my annual Amusement Park-Hopping Trip in 2011. I attended a service at Joel Osteen's "Megachurch" in Houston just for the fun of it, I "relieved" them of a Christmas Tree Ornament before merrily going about my way. Been there, done that!
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11-01-2012, 12:12 AM	#3
tiredmike59 Member Senior Member Join Date: Jun 05, 2010 Location: OUTLAW STATE {MO} Posts: 1,868	Tv preacher " Send me money or you're going to Hell in a handbag "

11-01-2012, 12:18 AM	#4
Vahan Member Senior Member Join Date: Jan 14, 2008 Posts: 2,712	I can't stand Pat Robertson. End of story.

11-01-2012, 11:09 AM	#6
MickeyMac Member Forum Star Join Date: Jun 18, 2008 Location: Kalamazoo, Michigan Posts: 19,008	I gotta admit I like Creflo Dollar.

11-02-2012, 01:10 PM	#12
AKA Member Forum Star Join Date: Dec 17, 2001 Posts: 15,746	Sadly, Billy Graham has gone off the deep end in recent years, even lowering his long-held standards in the name of politics. Terrible.

11-02-2012, 03:23 PM	#14
MickeyMac Member Forum Star Join Date: Jun 18, 2008 Location: Kalamazoo, Michigan Posts: 19,008	I cant possibly put TV ministers and psychics in the same category. I could say more, but I wont go into details here.

11-02-2012, 06:39 PM	#15
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