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julie pounders · 10-18-2012, 11:35 AM

Why did Steve and his wife move back to the Shady Rest on the season June Lockhart was the doctor? I always thought their cottage was so cute, if a little too green (lol). I am enjoying watching on ME tv this fall. Also, was the game warden character in many shows? It seems like his character was introduced to provide love interest....

Marvo301 · 10-18-2012, 01:42 PM

My guess is that it was to save money. One less set and all the action can now take place at one location. (the Shady Rest) I think you're right that Orrin was added to the cast just to be a love interest for Bobbie Jo.

tdr · 10-18-2012, 07:40 PM

I thought they used the excuse that they were "running out of room" at their cottage, that they were having to add more things, especially for the baby. But the place wasn't that small, I didn't think. The real reason, I'm sure, was to 'consolidate' most the action back at the big set of the hotel. And that, I suppose, is acceptable enough, as it was fixed up for their honeymoon cottage, not thought of as a place to raise a family.

And Orrin, the game warden, really served a multiple purpose. A new addition in the area, Bobbie Jo's new love interest, Uncle Joe's nemesis, and a nervous, well-meaning but incompetent guy who happens to be an officer of the law. As all that, especially the way those roles overlapped, he was easily the source of new conflicts in the final season.

julie pounders · 10-19-2012, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by tdr

I thought they used the excuse that they were "running out of room" at their cottage, that they were having to add more things, especially for the baby. But the place wasn't that small, I didn't think. The real reason, I'm sure, was to 'consolidate' most the action back at the big set of the hotel. And that, I suppose, is acceptable enough, as it was fixed up for their honeymoon cottage, not thought of as a place to raise a family.

And Orrin, the game warden, really served a multiple purpose. A new addition in the area, Bobbie Jo's new love interest, Uncle Joe's nemesis, and a nervous, well-meaning but incompetent guy who happens to be an officer of the law. As all that, especially the way those roles overlapped, he was easily the source of new conflicts in the final season.

Thanks for the new insights. Have a great day!

liane49 · 04-13-2013, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by tdr

I thought they used the excuse that they were "running out of room" at their cottage, that they were having to add more things, especially for the baby. But the place wasn't that small, I didn't think. The real reason, I'm sure, was to 'consolidate' most the action back at the big set of the hotel. And that, I suppose, is acceptable enough, as it was fixed up for their honeymoon cottage, not thought of as a place to raise a family.

And Orrin, the game warden, really served a multiple purpose. A new addition in the area, Bobbie Jo's new love interest, Uncle Joe's nemesis, and a nervous, well-meaning but incompetent guy who happens to be an officer of the law. As all that, especially the way those roles overlapped, he was easily the source of new conflicts in the final season.

Yea, their cottage was too small. But what did they ever do with it? Was it just empty?

tdr · 08-15-2013, 03:28 AM

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Originally Posted by liane49

Yea, their cottage was too small. But what did they ever do with it? Was it just empty?

I think there were at least 2 final season eps in which Betty Jo and Steve returned there... no, maybe both incidents were in the same ep. Anyway, they had it for sale, and the 'realtor' trying to sell it for them was Mr. Haney, known from Green Acres. S and BJ spend a night there, just to be alone again, and Mr. Haney has a couple as potential buyers whom he brings in to show on that same night. Shifty, unscrupulous Haney even brings them right into the bedroom as S & BJ are kissing, and he says, "Don't mind us, folks!-- just go on with whatever you're doin'." Steve finally throws him out with direct threats. Then-- and I now think it was the same ep-- they are awakened when a couple of bums come in, and they find out those guys have been "borrowing" the place regularly.

Bonniegirl · 11-30-2015, 01:31 PM

And maybe Betty Jo had to help run the hotel. Billie Jo was probably getting more singing gigs and was busy with her career , and the lady doctor of course was busy with her medical practice. And Uncle Jo was getting older and more lazy .So it was too much for Bobbie Jo to handle by herself!

And it was a small honeymoon cottage. Such a cute cottage.( And boy I sure would love to do some "honey mooning" with that hot Steve ) ! LOL!!! Also I think maybe they wanted Kathy Jo to grow up in the hotel like her Mom and Aunts!

faraj · 07-14-2018, 05:05 PM

Just like in the final season of My Three Sons when Katie and the triplets moved back into the Douglas home after Robbie went away to Peru when Don Grady quit the show.

Little_stinker · 07-26-2018, 11:28 AM

And Orrin, the game warden, really served a multiple purpose. A new addition in the area, Bobbie Jo's new love interest, Uncle Joe's nemesis, and a nervous, well-meaning but incompetent guy who happens to be an officer of the law. As all that, especially the way those roles overlapped, he was easily the source of new conflicts in the final season.[/QUOTE]

Sounds a little Barney Fifeish to me.
Which happened first; Barney left TAGS or Warren joined PJ?
Interesting that both shows were on CBS.

Bonniegirl · 07-26-2018, 01:22 PM

Here is the actor Jonathan Daly who played Orrin !!

Here is the cottage before it was fixed up and an interior shot ! Wish I could find more pics of the cottage than this!

I love this show!! Wish it was still on!!

Little_stinker · 07-26-2018, 05:05 PM

I meant Orrin, but confused him with Warren from TAGS.
Funny how their names rhyme. Coincidence or intentional?
Are they the same type of character?

biffbronson · 07-26-2018, 10:20 PM

Don Knotts had been gone from TAGS for more than a couple of years prior to Jonathan Daly joining PJ as Orrin for the final season, 1969-70 (Season 7). Jack Burns (Warren) had come and gone from TAGS by that time.

Warren and Orrin were very different characters. Orrin was not intended to be a particularly funny guy, though he does elicit laughs at times. He was mainly a love interest for Bobbie Jo, as stated in this thread. Warren was more quirky and did more funny things. Both could be a little incompetent at times, but they knew their job responsibilities.

Those of you who don't receive Decades should email some of your area's stations and ask them to try to acquire it -- lots of good stuff from the 60s to the 80s, including 2 eps of PJ, Monday through Friday. I think also MeTV airs PJ on Saturday mornings...!

someguy23475 · 02-13-2020, 07:14 PM

The Orrin character was added as a love interest to Bobbie Jo. Had the series continued to the 1970-71 season, they probably would have married and he joins the main cast.

TV Guy · 02-16-2020, 12:53 AM

The show was becoming too fragmented, with Kate gone and Betty Jo not living at the hotel.

It’s just too bad Steve had to come with her when she moved back in. He was such a cheesemeister.

Duster76 · 02-16-2020, 08:57 PM

[QUOTE=TV Guy;5684387]The show was becoming too fragmented, with Kate gone and Betty Jo not living at the hotel.

It’s just too bad Steve had to come with her when she moved back in. He was such a cheesemeister.[/QUOT

As a plot device the cottage had run its course. The hotel was the primary staging area for the series action and without Bea Benaderet around having Betty Jo at that location made sense.

Funny comment about Steve. Mike Minor (Steve), the son of producer Don Fedderson (My Three Sons, Family Affair) who used his mother's maiden name, was as pedestrian an actor as I've ever seen.

10-18-2012, 11:35 AM	#1
julie pounders Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Mar 14, 2012 Location: Arkansas Posts: 17	Why did Steve and Betty Jo come back? Why did Steve and his wife move back to the Shady Rest on the season June Lockhart was the doctor? I always thought their cottage was so cute, if a little too green (lol). I am enjoying watching on ME tv this fall. Also, was the game warden character in many shows? It seems like his character was introduced to provide love interest....

10-18-2012, 01:42 PM	#2
Marvo301 I'm NOT a Blockhead! Forum Celebrity Join Date: May 17, 2002 Location: The Great White North Posts: 21,450	My guess is that it was to save money. One less set and all the action can now take place at one location. (the Shady Rest) I think you're right that Orrin was added to the cast just to be a love interest for Bobbie Jo.
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07-14-2018, 05:05 PM	#8
faraj Member Forum Regular Join Date: Apr 03, 2004 Posts: 736	Just like in the final season of My Three Sons when Katie and the triplets moved back into the Douglas home after Robbie went away to Peru when Don Grady quit the show.
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10-18-2012, 07:40 PM	#3
tdr Member Senior Member Join Date: Mar 23, 2001 Posts: 1,454	I thought they used the excuse that they were "running out of room" at their cottage, that they were having to add more things, especially for the baby. But the place wasn't that small, I didn't think. The real reason, I'm sure, was to 'consolidate' most the action back at the big set of the hotel. And that, I suppose, is acceptable enough, as it was fixed up for their honeymoon cottage, not thought of as a place to raise a family. And Orrin, the game warden, really served a multiple purpose. A new addition in the area, Bobbie Jo's new love interest, Uncle Joe's nemesis, and a nervous, well-meaning but incompetent guy who happens to be an officer of the law. As all that, especially the way those roles overlapped, he was easily the source of new conflicts in the final season.

11-30-2015, 01:31 PM	#7
Bonniegirl AKA Hazel Horvath Forum Addict Join Date: Jul 10, 2014 Posts: 65,429	And maybe Betty Jo had to help run the hotel. Billie Jo was probably getting more singing gigs and was busy with her career , and the lady doctor of course was busy with her medical practice. And Uncle Jo was getting older and more lazy .So it was too much for Bobbie Jo to handle by herself! And it was a small honeymoon cottage. Such a cute cottage.( And boy I sure would love to do some "honey mooning" with that hot Steve ) ! LOL!!! Also I think maybe they wanted Kathy Jo to grow up in the hotel like her Mom and Aunts!

07-26-2018, 11:28 AM	#9
Little_stinker Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Apr 19, 2018 Location: Illinois Posts: 315	And Orrin, the game warden, really served a multiple purpose. A new addition in the area, Bobbie Jo's new love interest, Uncle Joe's nemesis, and a nervous, well-meaning but incompetent guy who happens to be an officer of the law. As all that, especially the way those roles overlapped, he was easily the source of new conflicts in the final season.[/QUOTE] Sounds a little Barney Fifeish to me. Which happened first; Barney left TAGS or Warren joined PJ? Interesting that both shows were on CBS.

07-26-2018, 01:22 PM	#10
Bonniegirl AKA Hazel Horvath Forum Addict Join Date: Jul 10, 2014 Posts: 65,429	Here is the actor Jonathan Daly who played Orrin !! Here is the cottage before it was fixed up and an interior shot ! Wish I could find more pics of the cottage than this! I love this show!! Wish it was still on!!

07-26-2018, 05:05 PM	#11
Little_stinker Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Apr 19, 2018 Location: Illinois Posts: 315	I meant Orrin, but confused him with Warren from TAGS. Funny how their names rhyme. Coincidence or intentional? Are they the same type of character?

07-26-2018, 10:20 PM	#12
biffbronson Sentimental Fool Forum Star Join Date: Aug 22, 2009 Location: Near Notre Dame Posts: 10,291	Don Knotts had been gone from TAGS for more than a couple of years prior to Jonathan Daly joining PJ as Orrin for the final season, 1969-70 (Season 7). Jack Burns (Warren) had come and gone from TAGS by that time. Warren and Orrin were very different characters. Orrin was not intended to be a particularly funny guy, though he does elicit laughs at times. He was mainly a love interest for Bobbie Jo, as stated in this thread. Warren was more quirky and did more funny things. Both could be a little incompetent at times, but they knew their job responsibilities. Those of you who don't receive Decades should email some of your area's stations and ask them to try to acquire it -- lots of good stuff from the 60s to the 80s, including 2 eps of PJ, Monday through Friday. I think also MeTV airs PJ on Saturday mornings...!

02-13-2020, 07:14 PM	#13
someguy23475 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Feb 02, 2006 Posts: 167	The Orrin character was added as a love interest to Bobbie Jo. Had the series continued to the 1970-71 season, they probably would have married and he joins the main cast.

02-16-2020, 12:53 AM	#14
TV Guy Member Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jun 25, 2001 Location: Boston, MA, USA Posts: 3,419	The show was becoming too fragmented, with Kate gone and Betty Jo not living at the hotel. It’s just too bad Steve had to come with her when she moved back in. He was such a cheesemeister.

02-16-2020, 08:57 PM	#15
Duster76 Member Senior Member Join Date: Mar 01, 2008 Location: New jersey Posts: 1,639	[QUOTE=TV Guy;5684387]The show was becoming too fragmented, with Kate gone and Betty Jo not living at the hotel. It’s just too bad Steve had to come with her when she moved back in. He was such a cheesemeister.[/QUOT As a plot device the cottage had run its course. The hotel was the primary staging area for the series action and without Bea Benaderet around having Betty Jo at that location made sense. Funny comment about Steve. Mike Minor (Steve), the son of producer Don Fedderson (My Three Sons, Family Affair) who used his mother's maiden name, was as pedestrian an actor as I've ever seen.