My Theory on Amy Bradley (long)

[S2h2k2007]

Hello All,

I will start by saying I have a touch of OCD, I get fixated on things, and one of the things ive been doing extensive research on lately after seeing it on TV was the Amy Bradley case, the one where the girl on the cruise ship dissappears, it was featured on unsolved mysteries, vanished, and Dr. Phil. Anyway so after exhaustive research here is my theory, if its in parenthesis it is what I'm basing it on. **Sorry this is gonna be long.**

**Here's what we know from interviews with her brother and father.

Amy was at the dance club in the early morning hours with her brother, she was dancing with the bass player for the cruise ship band, Alister "Yellow" Douglas.

Amy goes back to her room and sits on the balcony with her brother, he goes inside to go to bed this is approximately around 4am. Her dad awakens at 530 and see's Amy on the balcony still wide awake, he goes back to sleep for a "little bit longer" and when he awakens around 600am, she is gone.

**From here on out is my theory on what happened based on eyewitness accounts.

Amy left the balcony and either ran into Alister Douglas coincidentally or planned to meet the band member (two girls reported seeing Amy and Alister walk into the club at around 6am after getting off an elevator).

I believe Amy left the boat and entered Curacao willingly after the boat was docked, but she was not alone. (her brother stated that she told mentioned earlier that she was going to venture onto the island early to pick up some items). It would have been too difficult to get her off the boat against her will i feel. (in addition to Douglas, she was also seen hanging around with several waiters, she could have accepted an offer from one of these men to go onto the island after meeting up with Douglas).

I do not believe she fell overboard, the boat was preparing to dock and was extremely close to the shore. Amy was captain of the swim club and a trained lifeguard. Also, at this time in the morning people were surely up and would have heard something, the surrounding waters were checked.

The next known sighting was by a cab driver who told the Bradley family that Amy approached his cab in a panic and said she urgently needed a phone. Had the plan to kidnap her taken effect? was she trying to contact her family to tell them she already exited the ship or for help? why didn't she tell the cab driver she was in trouble or anyone else?

I have a feeling this cab driver might have been mistaken in who he saw. he said he remembers her green eyes but im not sure this happened, if it did, her captors caught up to her for a second time, if it didnt happen, she was already kidnapped at this point.

The next known sighting was in August of 1998 in Curacao, 5 months after Amy's disappearence. A man claims a women walking on the beach heard him speaking English so speedily walked up to him but was grabbed by two men and led to a cafe, the man followed and the woman made obvious attempts to show her tattoos off to the man and the man listed the tattoos and they matched Amy's.

Next was a naval soldier who visited a brothel in 1999 in Curacao, a woman came up to him and said her name was Amy Bradley and she needed help that she couldnt get away. Out of fear that he would be in trouble as he was not supposed to be in that brothel he waited two years two report this incident.

A woman named Judy said that she saw Amy in 2005 in a bathroom in the Barbados, she was in the stall and heard them saying a deal was going through and dont try to ruin it for them. When she came out the woman said her name was Amy and she was from Virginia, then the men came in and grabbed her and Judy ran.

**Here's my theory on that

We all know by now about the pictures from 2005 that were on a website of an escort named "Jaz" that bares a strong resemblence to Amy Bradley that provides "adult" vacations. (it is now under "new management" and has moved locations from curacao to dominican republic, stating on their website that venezuela (where Curacao is close to) does not like americans and was giving them grief. In actuality the first place burned down. What "Judy" might have witness was this organization selling off some of their girls to this Barbados operation, because now on their website they only have "local girls" from D.R. or so they claim.

So that's where we stand. I also examined the pictures that were on the website of "Jaz" and pain stakenly compared them to every picture and video of Amy Bradley I could find. Although it has been a few years, I examined ever inch of the face and they are exactly the same in every feature, the only thing I would say from the pictures are not 100% is Jaz's nose at the tip seems to bend slightly up, while Amy's slightly down. This could be the angle or makeup however. Also they strategically cover all of her tattooed areas with hair or camera positioning. An FBI investigator examined the pictures and stated unequivocately that it is her and said he would "stake his career on it."

So there you have it. The only question is who lead Amy off of the boat. On Alister Douglas' facebook page it talks about how religious and spiritual he is, almost at nauseam. Although he was questioned and given a polygraph test, he was not detained. Could he be the spotter for a human trafficker? He allegedly said to Amy's brother "sorry about your sister being missing" when only the family and Captain knew she was in fact missing, at that point. However I did read that the Captain looked around the boat and one of the first places he went to look was the Band's quarters and asked them if they saw her. Did the Captain tell them she was missing? Why would alister word it the way he did?

Hopefully Amy will be found and soon....

Sorry for this being so long. Thank you anyone that actually read.

[S2h2k2007]

Also....The woman Judy in 2005 and the other two gave composite sketches of the Girl that they saw, they can be seen on the Charley Project webpage. The sketches from the witnesses are identical to "Jaz"

[scc1222]

the more I think about it,it seems as though Amy had planned to meet up w someone..(either that or she just got up to smoke a cig) and she was persuaded,for whatever reason,to leave the ship and go into town.I think she most likely met her fate there,with it probably planned,and she was assualted,killed,and buried somewhere there.This would seem the most logical explanation...I can't believe someone would have let her live,work and risk being caught.Nor does it seem she fell overboard.JMO.
This case seems a lot like the Claudia case at the Jamaican resort.

[ernmerica]

The sad part is the Bradleys were conned by a PI they hired. They paid him tens of thousands of dollars only to have him stage pictures that might look like photos of Amy. Not only for the money but lost hope and time lost in the investigation.

[TheCars1986]

I still believe (based off of what was shown on UM and Disappeared) that she fell overboard after becoming intoxicated from staying up all night partying.

[scc1222]

I thought they were docked at the time and the surrounding waters had been checked? someone correct me if i'm wrong.

[ernmerica]

Originally Posted by scc1222

I thought they were docked at the time and the surrounding waters had been checked? someone correct me if i'm wrong.

At 530am when the father saw her on the balcony they were probably close to shore but still moving, they were docked around 8am

[kamy]

Good theory, S2h2k2007. I seem to agree. This is a sad one, and probably one that will never be resolved.

[88keys]

Amy Bradley is the featured missing person this week on "Websleuths."

There is a person who posts regularly in her thread under the name "FindAmy." He or she is a verified insider on the case (not sure what his exact connection is). He has a lot of interesting information. You can see the thread here: http://websleuths.com/forums/showthr...t=4936&page=10 (I'm starting on page 10 because it contains recent posts, but there is some interesting stuff before that).

Quoting "FindAmy" here:

I will try to fill you in as much as possible on Alister Douglas "Yellow".
I personally believe that Alister Douglas and possibly a Portuguese waiter were paid to drug Amy and deliver her.



Alister Douglas was the bass player in a band called "Blue Orchid" on Rhapsody of the Seas. After the first day of the cruise, there were several crew members who were overly attentive to Amy. Even Iva commented the first day about how turned off she was by Alister's behavior. He was obnoxious. The waiter was also overly attentive.

The day that the ship docked in Aruba, the Bradley family rented a jeep and toured the island. When they returned, the waiter asked if Amy would go with them after dinner to a bar called Carlos and Charlies. This is the same location where Natalee Holloway disappeared, seven years later. I personally believe that Amy was supposed to disappear that night in Aruba. It would have been much easier than trying to take her off of the ship in Curacao. Amy told her parents that she wouldn't go anywhere with those waiters because she thought they were creepy. Amy stayed on the ship with her family. She and Brad won a limbo contest and then headed for the disco. This is where Amy ran into Alister Douglas, again. Chris Fenwick has the video of Amy dancing with Alister Douglas in the disco.

Amy and Brad returned to the family's room. The door logs show that they both entered the cabin. At 5:30, Ron Bradley awoke and saw Amy on the lounge chair on the balcony. I posted floor plans and photos of this arrangement, several pages back. Ron awoke again at 6:00 and Amy was gone. She did not have shoes and she only had her Marlboro cigarettes with her. By 7:00 the Bradleys were looking for Amy and they had reported her missing to Royal Caribbean. The family assumes that Amy went in search of coffee. At about this time, one of the waiters approached Amy's brother, Brad, and told him how sorry he was that his sister was missing. It was impossible for the crew members to have known that Amy was missing at this point in time.

In the meantime, there was a female passenger I will refer to as "E". "E" became ill a few days before the cruise and she was on heavy antibiotics. She couldn't go into the sun. She discovered that if she spent her time in the disco area, she could see a lot of what was happening on the ship. She was awake early because she wanted to disembark into Curacao. She had gone to the disco to wait until she could leave. While she was sitting there, she saw Alister Douglas and Amy get off of the large glass elevators and walk to the bar in the disco. Alister Douglas turned up the music in the disco. "E" then saw Alister bring Amy a drink containing a dark liquid. It appeared to be coke or coffee. "E" left because the passengers were preparing to disembark. Amy was never seen again, although Douglas was seen in the glass elevator by himself. "E"'s statements have been verified. She passed a polygraph and she did testify before a Grand Jury. One report indicates that Alister was later found asleep in his room. I personally believe that Amy was passed off to another crew member before she was removed from the ship. An important piece of information is that there is also a staff elevator that leads from the disco. Two college coeds also saw Alister Douglas in the glass elevators.

Alister Douglas was questioned by the FBI. His polygraph was inconclusive. He maintains that he doesn't know what happened to Amy. He claims that Amy had a drink in the disco with the band at about 1:00 AM and he didn't see her after that time. He claims that Royal Caribbean searched his room and found nothing. There was no evidence that Amy had been with him and the FBI never charged him with anything. After the cruise, Royal Caribbean fired Alister Douglas for fraternizing with a passenger.

In August of 1998 (six months later) an engineer from Canada and his friend were diving at the beach in Porto Marie, Curacao. His name is David Carmichael and he was shown on the Vanished program. David has been a wonderful help to the Bradleys. He has passed polygraphs and appeared for interviews. David was organizing his equipment, on the beach, when he noticed a woman and two men walking toward him. The woman had a horrified expression on her face. She appeared frightened. David began to respond to her, but one of the men with her ran between them. David said the man gave him a threatening look. David and his friend were later on the deck of the outdoor bar. They were sitting close to Amy and these two "handlers". David had full view of tattoos and other distinguishing things about Amy. David didn't know who Amy was until he returned to Canada and he saw her featured on a program. He immediately contacted the Bradleys and the FBI. Royal Caribbean sent their attorneys to David's home in an attempt to intimidate him, but he has absolutely maintained that the man with Amy was Alister Douglas.

Alister eventually returned to his native Grenada. He has reportedly found religion and he has been part of a band. He has had some other small business ventures. Douglas is married and he has at least one child. When the producers of Vanished were preparing to film the show, they contacted Douglas. They offered Douglas an opportunity to publicly give his version of the events. Alister Douglas refused to have any interaction with the program. After Amy's Vanished episode aired, Douglas contacted the producers and complained that he was innocent and that he was unfairly represented in the film.

[ernmerica]

Originally Posted by FindAmy

At about this time, one of the waiters approached Amy's brother, Brad, and told him how sorry he was that his sister was missing. It was impossible for the crew members to have known that Amy was missing at this point in time.

I thought that this was disregarded because the ships crew had spoken to a lot of the staff about if they have seen Amy, and that's how some of the staff knew about her missing? I could be wrong.

Originally Posted by FindAmy

After Amy's Vanished episode aired, Douglas contacted the producers and complained that he was innocent and that he was unfairly represented in the film.

You know what? This guy can burn in hell. You are one of the last people to be seen with missing person and you refuse to give your side of the story for documentary that would help get the word out about somebody's missing daughter. Ok fine, I know a few yrs back he said something like "I am done with this issue, LE is just going around in circles and I am sick of being a suspect". Fine. But to complain that he was presented in a bad light to the producers of Vanished? Get over it muchamba, you are a top suspect and for good reason, and you couldn't even give the producers an off camera statement.

[88keys]

Supposedly he has found religion now. Which is fine, but you would think if he really had converted, he would want to help find this girl in any way he could.

[dynoguy88]

Originally Posted by TheCars1986

I still believe (based off of what was shown on UM and Disappeared) that she fell overboard after becoming intoxicated from staying up all night partying.

On the UM segment, Ron Bradley said that when he awoke at 5:30 to see Amy asleep on the balcony, the balcony doors were closed. He even goes as far to say that had the doors been open, he would have gotten up to close them (even with Amy still out there) before going back to sleep. When he woke up 20 minutes later to find Amy was missing, the balcony doors were now opened.

So if she really was so intoxicated and fell overboard like you theorize, that would mean she was coherent enough to know to open the balcony doors but still decided to then turn around and climb over the balcony to her death.

It just doesn't sound likely to me.

[WishfulDreamer]

Originally Posted by dynoguy88

On the UM segment, Ron Bradley said that when he awoke at 5:30 to see Amy asleep on the balcony, the balcony doors were closed. He even goes as far to say that had the doors been open, he would have gotten up to close them (even with Amy still out there) before going back to sleep. When he woke up 20 minutes later to find Amy was missing, the balcony doors were now opened.

So if she really was so intoxicated and fell overboard like you theorize, that would mean she was coherent enough to know to open the balcony doors but still decided to then turn around and climb over the balcony to her death.

It just doesn't sound likely to me.

I agree. I've never been slobbering drunk wasted, but I have had too much to drink and I would still not go anywhere near something I was afraid of so much. I doubt she changed her clothes, grabbed her cigarettes and then went flying overboard.

[RobinW]

Been reading through that thread on Websleuths and I find interesting that it got to the point where the moderators specifically asked posters to stop trying to push the theory that Amy simply fell off the ship's balcony. I know Websleuths can be notoriously rigid about its posting rules, but if wonder if this "FindAmy" person provided some inside info that officially disproves the theory. While I've never believed Amy fell off the ship, it's not like I could ever say with any certainity it didn't happen.

It's also interesting that "FindAmy" believes that Amy was kidnapped, but not forced into prostitution like many believe. This person claims to have their own theory which they cannot share for security reasons.

[88keys]

Originally Posted by RobinW

Been reading through that thread on Websleuths and I find interesting that it got to the point where the moderators specifically asked posters to stop trying to push the theory that Amy simply fell off the ship's balcony. I know Websleuths can be notoriously rigid about its posting rules, but if wonder if this "FindAmy" person provided some inside info that officially disproves the theory. While I've never believed Amy fell off the ship, it's not like I could ever say with any certainity it didn't happen.

It's also interesting that "FindAmy" believes that Amy was kidnapped, but not forced into prostitution like many believe. This person claims to have their own theory which they cannot share for security reasons.

In the post I quoted above, a witness identified as "E" saw Amy on the ship, AFTER the 6am time that her father last saw her on the balcony. Also, FindAmy says that there have been many "verified" sightings of Amy all the way up to 2005. I'm not sure what criteria has to be met for a sighting to be considered verified, but at least one of these sightings was considered credible enough that the FBI sent someone to the area to investigate. Like many of you, I'm usually skeptical of eyewitness sightings, but I think Amy's case, many of these have merit. Amy has specifically identified herself as Amy Bradley or Amy from Virginia. Also, she has distinctive tattoos.

Some of the reasons she may have been kidnapped that are being tossed around are as a breeder, as a lure to draw young women into prostitution, or as someone to help abduct young children. No one is saying that Amy has actually done these things- they're just thoughts. FindAmy won't disclose the reasons he thinks Amy might have been taken because he does not want to put her in further danger. Also, he made a good point- prostitution is legal in the Caribbean (or at least on Curacao). There's really no reasons to kidnap a high-profile American and make her work as a prostitute, and there is no reason to keep a prostitute around for years and surround her with handlers in public.