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Ronny G · 06-23-2012, 04:14 PM

I’m constantly amazed at how little attention this show has received through the years. It’s not the fan’s fault. Not everybody has seen it or remembers it. This show has not been seen in syndication for nearly 30 years! The only way to watch it is via You Tube clips, or bootleg DVDs available on the grey market, or maybe you were fortunate to own a VCR AND had the good sense to record it when CBN aired the show in the mid 1980s.

The Farmer’s Daughter was produced by Screen Gems, the same company who also brought us Hazel, Dennis the Menace, Bewitched, the Donna Reed Show, Father Knows Best, etc. Those old Screen Gems shows are still extremely popular today, and live on in reruns--except The Farmer’s Daughter. They all shared the same production values, writers, directors, sets, etc. In fact, The Farmer’s Daughter seems like a cross between Hazel, and Donna Reed. Inger Stevens was just a sexier, younger version of Hazel, and was constantly meddling in her employer’s work and home life. But she wasn't brash and loud like Hazel. She was gentle and soft-spoken like Donna Reed, but not afraid to voice her opinion. The show was set in Washington, D.C., and portrayed the glamorous lifestyle of Congressman Glen Morley. It was heavy on romance, too. There was a lot of romantic chemistry, and sexual tension between Katy and her boss, Glen. The series wasn't hilariously funny. A few chuckles at times, and amusing, but it was mostly a grown-up, sophisticated romantic comedy--or "dramedy" (before the term was ever coined). There were a few poignant moments mixed in. A lot of the earlier episodes dealt with the feeling of unrequited love. That is, until Glen and Katy finally expressed their love for each other, and got married during the third, final season.

I’m very disappointed with the poor treatment, and the lack of respect this show has received from its owners, Sony Pictures. Supposedly, no tape masters were ever made of this show. The station that did air the show in syndication used 16mm film prints. Sony thinks it’s too expensive to transfer the 35mm film prints to a tape or digital format. They don’t think the show has any commercial appeal. So now the show sits hidden in the Sony vaults gathering dust. Nobody gets to enjoy it. And now every year goes by, and little by little, more and more people forget it ever existed.

Mr. Television · 06-23-2012, 04:18 PM

I agree. This was one show that I've always wanted to see. I thought Antenna TV was going to air it and then it fell apart.

catlover79 · 06-23-2012, 05:17 PM

I'd love to see it myself, especially to watch the late Inger Stevens in a sitcom. She was phenomenal in two Twilight Zone episodes. Of course, William Windom is a pleasure to watch in anything - definitely one of the most underrated character actors ever.

Mr. Television · 06-23-2012, 07:34 PM

Inger Stevens was great on Hang 'em High with Clint Eastwood. That was only 2 years after The Farmer's Daughter. It's so sad that she died so young. It's also sad that her hit tv show is hardly known to anybody.

Ronny G · 06-23-2012, 09:00 PM

Thanks guys for your support.

The first time I saw Inger Stevens was in a rerun of the Twilight Zone called The Hitch-hiker. I thought she was beautiful and brought a great amount of sympathy to her role.

The next time I saw her was on The Farmer's Daughter's reruns on CBN. I wished I had taped it. I’m kicking myself now for not recording it, but I was a teenager, and videotape was expensive back then--unlike now. I have the "fan-made" DVD set. Most of the episodes are grainy, but I guess its better than nothing. Out of the 100 or so episodes, only 20 are "missing."

I haven't seen Hang "Em High, yet, but it's on my list. I recently rented Guide to a Married Man, and she was sexy in that.

Jude The Obscure · 06-23-2012, 10:57 PM

I certainly enjoyed this show when CBN aired the reruns. I never thought about taping them because I didn't know we wouldn't have access to it again. But this is Sony--we shouldn't be shocked. Too bad we don't have the old Columbia/Screen Gems regime around to run things.

Mr. Television · 06-23-2012, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jude The Obscure

I certainly enjoyed this show when CBN aired the reruns. I never thought about taping them because I didn't know we wouldn't have access to it again. But this is Sony--we shouldn't be shocked. Too bad we don't have the old Columbia/Screen Gems regime around to run things.

I remember when CBN reran them. I just never watched them. I wish I had now.

Jude The Obscure · 06-23-2012, 11:13 PM

CBN had a great lineup back then...you saw shows that were not "evergreens".

Also--the copies that CBN ran were certainly "rushed" copies....the endings of the show would start with the Dancing Sticks but abruptly cut off and plastered with the 80s Columbia Lady logo.

1960'sTVfan · 06-23-2012, 11:31 PM

Farmers Daughter ran for the same length of time as The Patty Duke Show (1963-66) and both shows had nearly the same number of episodes. Sony is bad, I can think of just three shows they have completed on DVD. Bewitched, I Dream Of Jeannie, and Partridge Family. They quit on The Flying Nun with only one season to go. The 60's was a great decade for TV, even the lesser shows retain some nostalgia value. In the case of Farmers Daughter, if I'm not mistaken it's somewhat similar to Bachelor Father, a show I'm not particularly fond of. But I would still like to see Farmers Daughter though, it would be worth a look at least for the nostalgia factor. I am familiar with William Windom from the series My World And Welcome To It. Some other long unseen shows would be cool to see also, shows like Please Don't Eat The Daisies, Hey Landlord, OK Crackerby, and Julia just to name a few.

Milkamplifier · 06-24-2012, 03:10 AM

I like to fantasize about new technology coming in the future that would make transferring old film prints to digital much cheaper and easier and all shows ever made would relatively quickly become available to stream/download.

Greater things have happened before, so maybe my fantasy is not that outlandish. Though I guess that's just the technical aspect of the problem. People's (studios') attitude is often more difficult to tackle.

I love "The Farmer's Daughter". It's a cute little comedy with an air of sophistication, which comes not only from its glamorous setting, but also the leading lady's delicate manner. I personally like to watch it back-to-back with "Bachelor Father".

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Originally Posted by Ronny G

The only way to watch it is via You Tube clips, or bootleg DVDs available on the grey market, or maybe you were fortunate to own a VCR AND had the good sense to record it when CBN aired the show in the mid 1980s.

70 episodes are also available on certain torrent sites (30 episodes each from season 1 and 2, plus 10 episodes from the final season, including the first color episode, the wedding episode, and the second-to-last episode).

They are however relatively poor transfers from VHS recordings of the show's run on CBN (and I suppose originate from those bootleg DVDs). I do hope that's not the very last we ever see of this fine sitcom.

catlover79 · 06-24-2012, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ronny G

Thanks guys for your support.

The first time I saw Inger Stevens was in a rerun of the Twilight Zone called The Hitch-hiker. I thought she was beautiful and brought a great amount of sympathy to her role.

The next time I saw her was on The Farmer's Daughter's reruns on CBN. I wished I had taped it. I’m kicking myself now for not recording it, but I was a teenager, and videotape was expensive back then--unlike now. I have the "fan-made" DVD set. Most of the episodes are grainy, but I guess its better than nothing. Out of the 100 or so episodes, only 20 are "missing."

I haven't seen Hang "Em High, yet, but it's on my list. I recently rented Guide to a Married Man, and she was sexy in that.

"The Hitchhiker" - like many of TZ's episodes, still haunting and chilling to this day. She was fantastic in that ep.

Zoneboy · 06-24-2012, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by catlover79

"The Hitchhiker" - like many of TZ's episodes, still haunting and chilling to this day. She was fantastic in that ep.

Loved that one but her other episode, "The Lateness of the Hour" was a total snoozefest. William Windom starred in my favorite episode, "Five Characters in Search of an Exit" along with the 4th season episode "Miniature" which starred his "To Kill a Mockingbird" costar, Robert Duvall.

catlover79 · 06-24-2012, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Zoneboy

Loved that one but her other episode, "The Lateness of the Hour" was a total snoozefest. William Windom starred in my favorite episode, "Five Characters in Search of an Exit" along with the 4th season episode "Miniature" which starred his "To Kill a Mockingbird" costar, Robert Duvall.

Which of her episodes aired first?

Zoneboy · 06-24-2012, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by catlover79

Which of her episodes aired first?

"The Hitchhiker" from season 1, the other was from the 2nd season and was one of the 6 video taped episodes.

catlover79 · 06-24-2012, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Zoneboy

"The Hitchhiker" from season 1, the other was from the 2nd season and was one of the 6 video taped episodes.

Thanks!!

06-23-2012, 04:14 PM	#1
Ronny G Member Forum Regular Join Date: Oct 14, 2001 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 540	Where's the Love?!? I’m constantly amazed at how little attention this show has received through the years. It’s not the fan’s fault. Not everybody has seen it or remembers it. This show has not been seen in syndication for nearly 30 years! The only way to watch it is via You Tube clips, or bootleg DVDs available on the grey market, or maybe you were fortunate to own a VCR AND had the good sense to record it when CBN aired the show in the mid 1980s. The Farmer’s Daughter was produced by Screen Gems, the same company who also brought us Hazel, Dennis the Menace, Bewitched, the Donna Reed Show, Father Knows Best, etc. Those old Screen Gems shows are still extremely popular today, and live on in reruns--except The Farmer’s Daughter. They all shared the same production values, writers, directors, sets, etc. In fact, The Farmer’s Daughter seems like a cross between Hazel, and Donna Reed. Inger Stevens was just a sexier, younger version of Hazel, and was constantly meddling in her employer’s work and home life. But she wasn't brash and loud like Hazel. She was gentle and soft-spoken like Donna Reed, but not afraid to voice her opinion. The show was set in Washington, D.C., and portrayed the glamorous lifestyle of Congressman Glen Morley. It was heavy on romance, too. There was a lot of romantic chemistry, and sexual tension between Katy and her boss, Glen. The series wasn't hilariously funny. A few chuckles at times, and amusing, but it was mostly a grown-up, sophisticated romantic comedy--or "dramedy" (before the term was ever coined). There were a few poignant moments mixed in. A lot of the earlier episodes dealt with the feeling of unrequited love. That is, until Glen and Katy finally expressed their love for each other, and got married during the third, final season. I’m very disappointed with the poor treatment, and the lack of respect this show has received from its owners, Sony Pictures. Supposedly, no tape masters were ever made of this show. The station that did air the show in syndication used 16mm film prints. Sony thinks it’s too expensive to transfer the 35mm film prints to a tape or digital format. They don’t think the show has any commercial appeal. So now the show sits hidden in the Sony vaults gathering dust. Nobody gets to enjoy it. And now every year goes by, and little by little, more and more people forget it ever existed.
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06-23-2012, 04:18 PM	#2
Mr. Television 22 Years at Sitcoms Online Forum Icon Join Date: Jun 06, 2003 Location: Somewhere you're Not Posts: 62,125	I agree. This was one show that I've always wanted to see. I thought Antenna TV was going to air it and then it fell apart.
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06-23-2012, 05:17 PM	#3
catlover79 God Bless Val Forum Addict Join Date: May 29, 2006 Location: Bewitched in Ohio Posts: 70,376	I'd love to see it myself, especially to watch the late Inger Stevens in a sitcom. She was phenomenal in two Twilight Zone episodes. Of course, William Windom is a pleasure to watch in anything - definitely one of the most underrated character actors ever.
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06-23-2012, 07:34 PM	#4
Mr. Television 22 Years at Sitcoms Online Forum Icon Join Date: Jun 06, 2003 Location: Somewhere you're Not Posts: 62,125	Inger Stevens was great on Hang 'em High with Clint Eastwood. That was only 2 years after The Farmer's Daughter. It's so sad that she died so young. It's also sad that her hit tv show is hardly known to anybody.

06-23-2012, 09:00 PM	#5
Ronny G Member Forum Regular Join Date: Oct 14, 2001 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 540	Thanks guys for your support. The first time I saw Inger Stevens was in a rerun of the Twilight Zone called The Hitch-hiker. I thought she was beautiful and brought a great amount of sympathy to her role. The next time I saw her was on The Farmer's Daughter's reruns on CBN. I wished I had taped it. I’m kicking myself now for not recording it, but I was a teenager, and videotape was expensive back then--unlike now. I have the "fan-made" DVD set. Most of the episodes are grainy, but I guess its better than nothing. Out of the 100 or so episodes, only 20 are "missing." I haven't seen Hang "Em High, yet, but it's on my list. I recently rented Guide to a Married Man, and she was sexy in that.

06-23-2012, 10:57 PM	#6
Jude The Obscure Retired Eternal Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Dec 10, 2006 Posts: 7,519	I certainly enjoyed this show when CBN aired the reruns. I never thought about taping them because I didn't know we wouldn't have access to it again. But this is Sony--we shouldn't be shocked. Too bad we don't have the old Columbia/Screen Gems regime around to run things.

06-23-2012, 11:13 PM	#8
Jude The Obscure Retired Eternal Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Dec 10, 2006 Posts: 7,519	CBN had a great lineup back then...you saw shows that were not "evergreens". Also--the copies that CBN ran were certainly "rushed" copies....the endings of the show would start with the Dancing Sticks but abruptly cut off and plastered with the 80s Columbia Lady logo.

06-23-2012, 11:31 PM	#9
1960'sTVfan Member Forum Veteran Join Date: Sep 30, 2009 Posts: 6,050	Farmers Daughter ran for the same length of time as The Patty Duke Show (1963-66) and both shows had nearly the same number of episodes. Sony is bad, I can think of just three shows they have completed on DVD. Bewitched, I Dream Of Jeannie, and Partridge Family. They quit on The Flying Nun with only one season to go. The 60's was a great decade for TV, even the lesser shows retain some nostalgia value. In the case of Farmers Daughter, if I'm not mistaken it's somewhat similar to Bachelor Father, a show I'm not particularly fond of. But I would still like to see Farmers Daughter though, it would be worth a look at least for the nostalgia factor. I am familiar with William Windom from the series My World And Welcome To It. Some other long unseen shows would be cool to see also, shows like Please Don't Eat The Daisies, Hey Landlord, OK Crackerby, and Julia just to name a few.