Do You Think Gavin (Murray) Macleod Was Robbed By Not Winning An Emmy??? - Sitcoms Online Message Boards

Brian Damage · 06-10-2012, 02:25 PM

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id...+macleod&hl=en

He never thought so, because his role was smaller than everybody else's. What do you think?

catlover79 · 06-10-2012, 02:29 PM

I'm surprised that he was never even NOMINATED!!!!

Brian Damage · 06-10-2012, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by catlover79

I'm surprised that he was never even NOMINATED!!!!

Really? I thought he just never won one. He wasn't even nominated for the Love Boat either?

Retro4Life · 06-10-2012, 02:40 PM

Well, it is sad because he was great in that role.

No, he wasn't a leading man type, but his understated role was still significant and added a lot to the show.

Sometimes I think the fact that an acting job seems effortless makes it seem less worthy in some ways; i.e. 'what he was doing wasn't that hard so why nominate him?'. In reality, these types of roles are often harder to play because you have to do a lot more with much less in the script.

A real pity, for sure.

Brian Damage · 06-10-2012, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Retro4Life

Well, it is sad because he was great in that role.

No, he wasn't a leading man type, but his understated role was still significant and added a lot to the show.

Sometimes I think the fact that an acting job seems effortless makes it seem less worthy in some ways; i.e. 'what he was doing wasn't that hard so why nominate him?'. In reality, these types of roles are often harder to play because you have to do a lot more with much less in the script.

A real pity, for sure.

Excellent post, I think he shined most as Murray rather than the lead as Captain Stubing on the Love Boat. His little one liners especially towards Ted, got a lot of laughs from the audience.

old grouch · 06-10-2012, 02:58 PM

Gavin at least deserved to be nominated for MTM, but got overshadowed by Ed Asner and Ted Knight.

Retro4Life · 06-10-2012, 02:59 PM

^ Yeah, while I liked him as Stubing he wasn't as memorable as Murray, even though he had the lead role in Love Boat. LB's comedy was much more corny than MTM's; not to say I didn't enjoy it because I did, but you really can't compare the two shows in terms of quality.

I always thought Murray had a great chemistry with Sue Ann, too...some of their jibes were just brutal!

catlover79 · 06-10-2012, 03:01 PM

Murray was on in every episode, unlike Phyllis (which won Cloris two (?) Emmys). Gavin definitely had a lot of screen time, at least when the action took place in the newsroom.

Brian Damage · 06-10-2012, 03:08 PM

Interesting, do you guys think he was a victim of TMTMS overall success?

Retro4Life · 06-10-2012, 03:31 PM

Personally, I think that McLeod ultimately benefited a lot from TMTMS. If not for that, he'd have likely never gotten the Love Boat gig...and that coupled with TMTMS probably ensured he'd never really have to work again. I mean, he really wasn't in much else besides those two shows. Never had another series, and his movie and TV career was relegated to guest starring roles.

catlover79 · 06-10-2012, 06:43 PM

^ Prior to TMTMS, Gavin had a recurring role on McHale's Navy, but he ended up having the biggest and longest-running show of all the TMTMS regulars when all was said and done. I can't even imagine anyone else as Captain Stubing.

Retro4Life · 06-10-2012, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by catlover79

^ Prior to TMTMS, Gavin had a recurring role on McHale's Navy, but he ended up having the biggest and longest-running show of all the TMTMS regulars when all was said and done. I can't even imagine anyone else as Captain Stubing.

OK, thanks...didn't realize that about McHale's Navy. (as an aside, I have never watched a single episode of that show...it was never syndicated in my area!)

catlover79 · 06-10-2012, 06:47 PM

Same here...but I read about it in Gavin's book.

Ernest Borgnine was the star of that program.

Mr. Television · 06-10-2012, 06:49 PM

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OK, thanks...didn't realize that about McHale's Navy. (as an aside, I have never watched a single episode of that show...it was never syndicated in my area!)

It's on Antenna TV Weekday afternoons. He does look quite young in it.

Also being a Clint Eastwood fan, he had a role in the 1970 film Kelly's Heroes as Donald Sutherland's sidekick. They were funny together.

Brian Damage · 06-10-2012, 07:06 PM

In the article I linked up at the top, Gavin said he was miserable doing Mchale's Navy.

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Retro4Life Accept No Substitutes Forum Veteran Join Date: Feb 04, 2009 Location: IL Posts: 6,708	Well, it is sad because he was great in that role. No, he wasn't a leading man type, but his understated role was still significant and added a lot to the show. Sometimes I think the fact that an acting job seems effortless makes it seem less worthy in some ways; i.e. 'what he was doing wasn't that hard so why nominate him?'. In reality, these types of roles are often harder to play because you have to do a lot more with much less in the script. A real pity, for sure.
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06-10-2012, 02:58 PM	#6
old grouch Member Senior Member Join Date: May 13, 2010 Location: montana Posts: 1,877	Gavin at least deserved to be nominated for MTM, but got overshadowed by Ed Asner and Ted Knight.

06-10-2012, 02:59 PM	#7
Retro4Life Accept No Substitutes Forum Veteran Join Date: Feb 04, 2009 Location: IL Posts: 6,708	^ Yeah, while I liked him as Stubing he wasn't as memorable as Murray, even though he had the lead role in Love Boat. LB's comedy was much more corny than MTM's; not to say I didn't enjoy it because I did, but you really can't compare the two shows in terms of quality. I always thought Murray had a great chemistry with Sue Ann, too...some of their jibes were just brutal!

06-10-2012, 03:01 PM	#8
catlover79 God Bless Val Forum Addict Join Date: May 29, 2006 Location: Bewitched in Ohio Posts: 70,382	Murray was on in every episode, unlike Phyllis (which won Cloris two (?) Emmys). Gavin definitely had a lot of screen time, at least when the action took place in the newsroom.

06-10-2012, 03:08 PM	#9
Brian Damage I'm Rich Bitch Forum Icon Join Date: Feb 03, 2002 Location: What Ain't No Country I Ever Heard Of...They Speak English in What? Posts: 63,107	Interesting, do you guys think he was a victim of TMTMS overall success?

06-10-2012, 03:31 PM	#10
Retro4Life Accept No Substitutes Forum Veteran Join Date: Feb 04, 2009 Location: IL Posts: 6,708	Personally, I think that McLeod ultimately benefited a lot from TMTMS. If not for that, he'd have likely never gotten the Love Boat gig...and that coupled with TMTMS probably ensured he'd never really have to work again. I mean, he really wasn't in much else besides those two shows. Never had another series, and his movie and TV career was relegated to guest starring roles.

06-10-2012, 06:43 PM	#11
catlover79 God Bless Val Forum Addict Join Date: May 29, 2006 Location: Bewitched in Ohio Posts: 70,382	^ Prior to TMTMS, Gavin had a recurring role on McHale's Navy, but he ended up having the biggest and longest-running show of all the TMTMS regulars when all was said and done. I can't even imagine anyone else as Captain Stubing.

06-10-2012, 06:47 PM	#13
catlover79 God Bless Val Forum Addict Join Date: May 29, 2006 Location: Bewitched in Ohio Posts: 70,382	Same here...but I read about it in Gavin's book. Ernest Borgnine was the star of that program.

06-10-2012, 07:06 PM	#15
Brian Damage I'm Rich Bitch Forum Icon Join Date: Feb 03, 2002 Location: What Ain't No Country I Ever Heard Of...They Speak English in What? Posts: 63,107	In the article I linked up at the top, Gavin said he was miserable doing Mchale's Navy.