Missing Evidence

[welshman]

What are some missing pieces of evidence that could help convict someone like Kurt Sova's right shoe, he was the teenager that went to a party at a house and was found dead behind the building a few days afterwards missing a shoe which had similarities to another death of a boy and Philip Fraser's belongings which must have been dumped by the hitchhiker he picked up on his way to college travelling through Canada. Is there anything that could be found for sale/dumped somewhere someday?

[Necco]

I think the most obvious one is the Mac involved in the Tom Johnson case. If that had been found, so, most likely, would the killer have been.

[Steve W.]

Originally Posted by welshman

What are some missing pieces of evidence that could help convict someone like Kurt Sova's right shoe, he was the teenager that went to a party at a house and was found dead behind the building a few days afterwards missing a shoe which had similarities to another death of a boy and Philip Fraser's belongings which must have been dumped by the hitchhiker he picked up on his way to college travelling through Canada. Is there anything that could be found for sale/dumped somewhere someday?

I don't think finding Kurt's right shoe would have solved anything. Most of us on here have come to a conclusion that he died from drinking too much and then possibly falling into a coma/dehydrating. Maybe someone could have made him drink or take other drugs (?), but I at least think he did a lot of the drinking by his own choice.

Awhile ago, someone linked a newspaper article from 1991 that stated Kurt had a person of age buy him a fifth of Everclear on the day he was to go to that that was something that was never mentioned in the UM segment.

[welshman]

Originally Posted by Necco

I think the most obvious one is the Mac involved in the Tom Johnson case. If that had been found, so, most likely, would the killer have been.

There aren't many on sale on the web so I would think that most have been replaced by now.

[welshman]

Originally Posted by Steve W.

I don't think finding Kurt's right shoe would have solved anything. Most of us on here have come to a conclusion that he died from drinking too much and then possibly falling into a coma/dehydrating. Maybe someone could have made him drink or take other drugs (?), but I at least think he did a lot of the drinking by his own choice.

Awhile ago, someone linked a newspaper article from 1991 that stated Kurt had a person of age buy him a fifth of Everclear on the day he was to go to that that was something that was never mentioned in the UM segment.

I don't think his death was murder but if they found his shoe in a secret room that belonged to a known killer I would change my mind.

[Steve W.]

Originally Posted by welshman

I don't think his death was murder but if they found his shoe in a secret room that belonged to a known killer I would change my mind.

Honestly, the other shoe was probably just somewhere in the duplex. It was either there or it fell off when two guys carried his body out to the ravine (the 1991 newspaper article said some neighbors saw two guys carrying Kurt's body that afternoon, but they just thought he must have been drunk and didn't call the police or anything).

The Newburgh Heights police department never scoped out the duplex or did any real investigating because they were lazy and corrupt. They should have handed the case over to the greater Cleveland police department the day Kurt was reported missing if any real investigating was going to be done.

A lot of us on here believe that Kurt was in the basement for most of the five days that he was "missing" (passed out/in a coma or the like). His parents never actually looked around in the duplex until that phone call at 3AM where the girl told them that Kurt was in the basment. They probably moved him into another room (I think he was dead by then) in the duplex or into the trunk of one of their cars when Kurt's dad came over and went into the basement.

[Necco]

Originally Posted by welshman

There aren't many on sale on the web so I would think that most have been replaced by now.

Note that I used past tense. If it had been found closer to the time, I think the crime would have been solved.

[zack007attack]

Dale Kerstetter's .22 caliber handgun could help solve his case if found.

Justin Burgwinkel's handguns he purchased before disappearing.

The bullets that killed Chad Langford. So suprised they didn't search the whole crime scene to recover them. If they really weren't at the scene, that actually indicates murder, not suicide.

[welshman]

Originally Posted by zack007attack

Dale Kerstetter's .22 caliber handgun could help solve his case if found.

The bullets that killed Chad Langford. So suprised they didn't search the whole crime scene to recover them. If they really weren't at the scene, that actually indicates murder, not suicide.

It's a shame ballistics can't identify a gun from where the firing pin hits the shell case.

One thing is that Dale's gun will/has probably outlived him.

Another thing that disappeared was Gus Hoffman's Harley that he restored but bikers were convicted of killing him for, I think they said it was sold as parts but it's possible someone is riding it now not knowing it's history.

[1990 UM fan]

The glasses left behind by Harold and Thelma Swain's killer. Unsolved Mysteries lost the pair sometime after the episode was produced.

[WishfulDreamer]

Originally Posted by 1990 UM fan

The glasses left behind by Harold and Thelma Swain's killer. Unsolved Mysteries lost the pair sometime after the episode was produced.

Thankfully that one was solved, but it's a shame that the glasses got lost.

[welshman]

The rings from the two Mary Morris murders they were thought to have been killed by a hitman one death was possibly a mistake or a cover up but I think both had their wedding rings taken as proof of their deaths.

[RobinW]

Originally Posted by WishfulDreamer

Thankfully that one was solved, but it's a shame that the glasses got lost.

Actually, the problem with this one is that these glasses could have possibly exonerated Dennis Perry, the man who's currently in prison for the crime. This was apparently an incredibly shoddy investigaton and a lot of people think that Perry is innocent. If these glasses had been around at trial and proven not to be Perry's size or prescription, he might not have been convicted and the glasses could still be used to help track down the real killer.

In terms of losing crucial evidence, however, I'm not sure anyone can top the police investigating Debbie Wolfe's death, who managed to lose an entire BARREL, and then tried to pretend it never existed!

[welshman]

Originally Posted by RobinW

In terms of losing crucial evidence, however, I'm not sure anyone can top the police investigating Debbie Wolfe's death, who managed to lose an entire BARREL, and then tried to pretend it never existed!

It's a shame the people that found the body didn't touch the barrel to make sure.

Don Kemp left his car and walked into the desert and was thought to have died a few days later, but a friend claims he phoned her and left messages on her answering machine asking her to phone him 5 months after he disappeared but presumably she deleted them because we don't hear them, they trace the phone call to a caravan in a town where some people think they've seen him but the police don't believe it and his body is discovered near wher he disappeared three years later.

[1990 UM fan]

Originally Posted by RobinW

Actually, the problem with this one is that these glasses could have possibly exonerated Dennis Perry, the man who's currently in prison for the crime. This was apparently an incredibly shoddy investigaton and a lot of people think that Perry is innocent. If these glasses had been around at trial and proven not to be Perry's size or prescription, he might not have been convicted and the glasses could still be used to help track down the real killer.

Perry they said has 20/20 vision and wouldn't have even needed the glasses in question. He might spend the rest of his life in prison at this point.