How Was Murray Able to Afford A House When Mary Could Barely Pay Rent On An Apartment - Sitcoms Online Message Boards

Brian Damage · 03-10-2012, 03:06 AM

There is no way Murray made more than an Associate Producer like Mary or am I way off base here?

robyrob · 03-10-2012, 09:12 AM

he probably got paid twice as much because he was a man.

LittleRickyII · 03-10-2012, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by robyrob

he probably got paid twice as much because he was a man.

That, plus Murray was older and had time to save up a nest egg. Also, Mary may have been living in a pricier neighborhood than Murray (it was a neighborhood of parks and Victorian mansions; Murray's neighborhood seemed more downscale). But I don't recall Mary ever struggling to pay her rent. When was that revealed? By the sixth season she was able to move into a larger apartment, so it seems she was doing okay.

Leigh Ann · 03-10-2012, 11:50 AM

And Murray was there longer before Mary came on board. So he probably had more time to save money. Plus, he probably had a writing/journalism degree from school, when Mary didn't. Mary was a complete novice when Lou took a chance on her.

Cloud9 Lorraine · 03-10-2012, 02:31 PM

Did Marie work?

OH Nuts! · 03-10-2012, 03:22 PM

Well, Murray may have made more than Mary.

Lou, even though the quintessential curmudgeon, could be warm and sensitive toward women. But he could also be pretty sexist; it's quite possible Lou paid Murray well, so Murray might have made as much (or even a little more) than Mary. Remember how angry Mary gets when she found out the guy in the position before her made $50 more? And Lou's response: he was a man and had a family to support.

However, for the sake of argument, even if Murray did make a high salary, there was his family, meaning not a whole lot leftover for a mortgage. Maybe he or Marie had inherited some money that they used for the down payment/to help with the mortgage. Or as someone else said, Marie worked, although I saw no evidence of that I can recall.

So the question is an interesting one Brian.

Then again, this is TV so anything goes, even if it seems illogical, unlikely or farfetched.

LittleRickyII · 03-10-2012, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by OH Nuts!

Then again, this is TV so anything goes, even if it seems illogical, unlikely or farfetched.

Again, I still don't see anything illogical because there doesn't seem to be anything special about the neighborhood Murray lives in. His house looks extremely middle class to me, whereas the neighborhood where Mary lives seems rather pricey. The homes are old Victorians, which gives me the impression she lives close to the center city, a fact that would indicate higher rents. Murray seems to be further out in the suburbs where homes would be cheaper. Where I live, apartment rents near the center city are higher than home mortgages 20 miles out in the suburbs. And again, when was it mentioned that Mary was struggling to pay her rent? And if she was struggling, why would she have moved into a bigger apartment in S6?

scotsguy · 03-11-2012, 08:49 PM

There was an episode when Mary found the rent in her first apartment had gone up and she had to ask Lou for a pay rise.

Murray did struggle too,remember he joked about struggling with money and said "...and last night,I held up a liquor store".

Murray was probably like a lot of people,he got by,barely,he wasn't totally happy with his job,he saw shallow,less talented people like Ted and Sue Ann making more money than him.

I think one of Murray's best episodes was in season 6,when he became producer on Sue Ann's show,he was making more money but was miserable,

I love it when he plants her on that cake,Sue Ann deserved it!

old grouch · 03-12-2012, 10:44 AM

Murray scrimped and saved and took sack lunches to work, while Mary blew her paychecks on clothes.

ajgenard · 03-13-2012, 03:45 AM

The income issue was addressed right off the bat. It was established even in the first episode that the associate producer position Mary was offered paid something like $10 less per week than the secretarial job she originally wanted. Which to me clearly indicates that the job was a lot of work for very little pay and no glory. Also I agree with LittleRickyII that there was nothing special about Murray's neighborhood. Combined with the fact he was a man and had much seniority over Mary, it totally adds up and doesn't seem illogical at all.

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03-10-2012, 11:50 AM	#4
Leigh Ann Member Senior Member Join Date: Oct 15, 2002 Posts: 2,189	And Murray was there longer before Mary came on board. So he probably had more time to save money. Plus, he probably had a writing/journalism degree from school, when Mary didn't. Mary was a complete novice when Lou took a chance on her.

03-10-2012, 02:31 PM	#5
Cloud9 Lorraine Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Feb 10, 2007 Location: NY Posts: 342	Did Marie work?

03-10-2012, 03:22 PM	#6
OH Nuts! Member Forum King Join Date: Feb 15, 2005 Posts: 133,383	Well, Murray may have made more than Mary. Lou, even though the quintessential curmudgeon, could be warm and sensitive toward women. But he could also be pretty sexist; it's quite possible Lou paid Murray well, so Murray might have made as much (or even a little more) than Mary. Remember how angry Mary gets when she found out the guy in the position before her made $50 more? And Lou's response: he was a man and had a family to support. However, for the sake of argument, even if Murray did make a high salary, there was his family, meaning not a whole lot leftover for a mortgage. Maybe he or Marie had inherited some money that they used for the down payment/to help with the mortgage. Or as someone else said, Marie worked, although I saw no evidence of that I can recall. So the question is an interesting one Brian. Then again, this is TV so anything goes, even if it seems illogical, unlikely or farfetched.

03-11-2012, 08:49 PM	#8
scotsguy Member Forum Regular Join Date: Nov 25, 2002 Location: Edinburgh,Scotland Posts: 696	There was an episode when Mary found the rent in her first apartment had gone up and she had to ask Lou for a pay rise. Murray did struggle too,remember he joked about struggling with money and said "...and last night,I held up a liquor store". Murray was probably like a lot of people,he got by,barely,he wasn't totally happy with his job,he saw shallow,less talented people like Ted and Sue Ann making more money than him. I think one of Murray's best episodes was in season 6,when he became producer on Sue Ann's show,he was making more money but was miserable, I love it when he plants her on that cake,Sue Ann deserved it!

03-12-2012, 10:44 AM	#9
old grouch Member Senior Member Join Date: May 13, 2010 Location: montana Posts: 1,877	Murray scrimped and saved and took sack lunches to work, while Mary blew her paychecks on clothes.

03-13-2012, 03:45 AM	#10
ajgenard Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Jul 09, 2011 Location: PA Posts: 369	The income issue was addressed right off the bat. It was established even in the first episode that the associate producer position Mary was offered paid something like $10 less per week than the secretarial job she originally wanted. Which to me clearly indicates that the job was a lot of work for very little pay and no glory. Also I agree with LittleRickyII that there was nothing special about Murray's neighborhood. Combined with the fact he was a man and had much seniority over Mary, it totally adds up and doesn't seem illogical at all.