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rubber4532 · 02-26-2012, 08:17 AM

I'm afraid I only have the barest of details. Unexplained death or wanted case, aired around 1989/90. I mostly remember it was incredibly convoluted, something about a guy who faked his death by killing another guy and putting the body in his house so everyone would think it was him. At first the cops fell for it but then eventually learned the truth. I seem to remember the dead guy was a bookkeeper from Hollywood(?). Anyone know this case?

unsolved243 · 02-26-2012, 09:40 AM

Is it Dan Tondervald?
http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/Dan_Tondervald

rubber4532 · 02-26-2012, 11:02 AM

Thanks for replying. No thats not it: I seem to remember the men involved were young. In their 20's or 30's.

TracyLynnS · 02-26-2012, 12:30 PM

This definitely doesn't involve a bookkeeper from Hollywood, but it's the first case that comes to mind when I think of a faked death on UM.

Clarence Roberts

http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/w...Geneve_Roberts

rubber4532 · 02-27-2012, 02:58 AM

It definitely wasn't from 1970, it happened around the time the story was aired. Another thing I recall was that they showed the victim's actual dead body. His face and everything! There didn't appear to be a mark on him, it looked like he'd died of natural causes.

1990 UM fan · 02-27-2012, 08:47 AM

The only Unsolved Mysteries episodes I remember them ever showing a decedent was the Cindy James case (they briefly showed her dead body in the segment when a news crew caught it on tape) and Jasper Watkins (they showed a picture taken at the morgue of his face in hopes of someone recognizing him). I also think they briefly showed Jeffrey Digman's body on his segment but I'm not 100% sure.

None of their stories match the one you're describing though. Are you sure this was an Unsolved Mysteries episode?

Kane · 02-27-2012, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by rubber4532

I'm afraid I only have the barest of details. Unexplained death or wanted case, aired around 1989/90. I mostly remember it was incredibly convoluted, something about a guy who faked his death by killing another guy and putting the body in his house so everyone would think it was him. At first the cops fell for it but then eventually learned the truth. I seem to remember the dead guy was a bookkeeper from Hollywood(?). Anyone know this case?

The closest thing that I can think of is Henry Ellis Greene, although Greene's body was found in a doctor's office. The murder occurred in April 1988. When the segment first aired in 1989, John Hawkins was wanted in connection with the homicide; he was finally caught in 1991.

http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/John_Hawkins

Stalked · 02-27-2012, 03:15 PM

I remember a case that was a murder/insurance scam, about two people who used a person to kill, and collected on the insurance. One was a dentist I think ? They made it look like a heart attack. Both did get caught for the murder / insurance scam. Sorry I don't recall their names.

Stalked · 02-27-2012, 03:21 PM

Oops, I should have checked the link that Kane gave before I posted , that was the case .

1990 UM fan · 02-27-2012, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Kane

The closest thing that I can think of is Henry Ellis Greene, although Greene's body was found in a doctor's office. The murder occurred in April 1988. When the segment first aired in 1989, John Hawkins was wanted in connection with the homicide; he was finally caught in 1991.

http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/John_Hawkins

I was just thinking it was this one too

rubber4532 · 02-27-2012, 10:34 PM

yea the henry ellis greene case sounds like the one I saw. Does anyone know if its on video anywhere?

Blackout · 02-28-2012, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by rubber4532

I'm afraid I only have the barest of details. Unexplained death or wanted case, aired around 1989/90. I mostly remember it was incredibly convoluted, something about a guy who faked his death by killing another guy and putting the body in his house so everyone would think it was him. At first the cops fell for it but then eventually learned the truth. I seem to remember the dead guy was a bookkeeper from Hollywood(?). Anyone know this case?

that case was Dan Tondervald

02-26-2012, 08:17 AM	#1
rubber4532 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Jul 26, 2009 Location: perth, australia Posts: 42	Anyone know this segment? I'm afraid I only have the barest of details. Unexplained death or wanted case, aired around 1989/90. I mostly remember it was incredibly convoluted, something about a guy who faked his death by killing another guy and putting the body in his house so everyone would think it was him. At first the cops fell for it but then eventually learned the truth. I seem to remember the dead guy was a bookkeeper from Hollywood(?). Anyone know this case?

02-27-2012, 08:47 AM	#6
1990 UM fan Unsolved Mysteries fanatic Senior Member Join Date: Jul 14, 2011 Location: United States Posts: 2,510	The only Unsolved Mysteries episodes I remember them ever showing a decedent was the Cindy James case (they briefly showed her dead body in the segment when a news crew caught it on tape) and Jasper Watkins (they showed a picture taken at the morgue of his face in hopes of someone recognizing him). I also think they briefly showed Jeffrey Digman's body on his segment but I'm not 100% sure. None of their stories match the one you're describing though. Are you sure this was an Unsolved Mysteries episode?
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02-27-2012, 03:15 PM	#8
Stalked Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Feb 11, 2012 Location: Antioch Posts: 11	Murder case I remember a case that was a murder/insurance scam, about two people who used a person to kill, and collected on the insurance. One was a dentist I think ? They made it look like a heart attack. Both did get caught for the murder / insurance scam. Sorry I don't recall their names.

02-27-2012, 03:21 PM	#9
Stalked Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Feb 11, 2012 Location: Antioch Posts: 11	OOPs Oops, I should have checked the link that Kane gave before I posted , that was the case .

02-26-2012, 09:40 AM	#2
unsolved243 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Aug 11, 2010 Posts: 260	Is it Dan Tondervald? http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/wiki/Dan_Tondervald

02-26-2012, 11:02 AM	#3
rubber4532 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Jul 26, 2009 Location: perth, australia Posts: 42	Thanks for replying. No thats not it: I seem to remember the men involved were young. In their 20's or 30's.

02-26-2012, 12:30 PM	#4
TracyLynnS Don't Look Up Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 07, 2009 Posts: 3,107	This definitely doesn't involve a bookkeeper from Hollywood, but it's the first case that comes to mind when I think of a faked death on UM. Clarence Roberts http://unsolvedmysteries.wikia.com/w...Geneve_Roberts

02-27-2012, 02:58 AM	#5
rubber4532 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Jul 26, 2009 Location: perth, australia Posts: 42	It definitely wasn't from 1970, it happened around the time the story was aired. Another thing I recall was that they showed the victim's actual dead body. His face and everything! There didn't appear to be a mark on him, it looked like he'd died of natural causes.

02-27-2012, 10:34 PM	#11
rubber4532 Member Occasional Poster Join Date: Jul 26, 2009 Location: perth, australia Posts: 42	yea the henry ellis greene case sounds like the one I saw. Does anyone know if its on video anywhere?