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Old 02-15-2012, 10:26 AM   #1
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Eek Marcia Strassman "Prayed Every Day" For 'Welcome Back Kotter' Cancellation!?

....was she justified? OR was she ungrateful for the opportunity?

Marcia Strassman landed a plum role as Mrs. Kotter on the hit sitcom Welcome Back, Kotter, but she wasn’t happy about it. “Every day I pray for cancellation,” she moaned in several interviews at the time. While some of us would shrug and think “a paycheck is a paycheck,” Strassman made it clear that smiling indulgently while Gabe Kaplan droned on about his great-uncle Schlomo and saying “Then what happened?” didn’t satisfy her artistic needs. Ironically, series star and co-creator Kaplan left after the third season, making Strassman the de facto star of the show. Such was her drawing power that Kotter was canceled promptly after season four.

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....was she justified? OR was she ungrateful for the opportunity?

Marcia Strassman landed a plum role as Mrs. Kotter on the hit sitcom Welcome Back, Kotter, but she wasn’t happy about it. “Every day I pray for cancellation,” she moaned in several interviews at the time. While some of us would shrug and think “a paycheck is a paycheck,” Strassman made it clear that smiling indulgently while Gabe Kaplan droned on about his great-uncle Schlomo and saying “Then what happened?” didn’t satisfy her artistic needs. Ironically, series star and co-creator Kaplan left after the third season, making Strassman the de facto star of the show. Such was her drawing power that Kotter was canceled promptly after season four.

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Why couldn't she just quit if she was that miserable? I hated her character anyway
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Why couldn't she just quit if she was that miserable? I hated her character anyway
Yeah, that's better than to basically pray for all those people working on the show behind the camera and in front of it to be out of a job just because she was unhappy there.
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Why couldn't she just quit if she was that miserable? I hated her character anyway
I guess she was under an "Iron Clad" contract?
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Yeah, she could have quit unless she had a contract that prevented her from doing so. And the whole thing seems quite 'sour grapes' since she really didn't have to work very hard (smiling wryly at Gabe's jokes was usually about the extent of her conversation) and she probably got paid well.

I can understand going on to other things, but honestly, the show didn't last that long and it's unlikely she had to turn down the lead role in "The China Syndrome" or something because of it. And she didn't exactly set the world on fire AFTER the show ended, either.
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Yeah, she could have quit unless she had a contract that prevented her from doing so. And the whole thing seems quite 'sour grapes' since she really didn't have to work very hard (smiling wryly at Gabe's jokes was usually about the extent of her conversation) and she probably got paid well.

I can understand going on to other things, but honestly, the show didn't last that long and it's unlikely she had to turn down the lead role in "The China Syndrome" or something because of it. And she didn't exactly set the world on fire AFTER the show ended, either.

Well, to be fair, she did star in a few of those "Honey I Shrunk the Kids" flicks LOL
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I will say it did become harder for her to FAKE THOSE LAUGHS after a while
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Well, to be fair, she did star in a few of those "Honey I Shrunk the Kids" flicks LOL
Yeah, forgot about those, lol.

I liked Strassman a lot and like most guys my age, had a crush on her. Just disappointing to hear that she didn't care for the show, I guess.
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Yeah, forgot about those, lol.

I liked Strassman a lot and like most guys my age, had a crush on her. Just disappointing to hear that she didn't care for the show, I guess.
I hear you and I agree, I am sure now that she had time to reflect, she probably realizes that she was stupid to want to end a gig that easy. lol
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Yea I read that before. I can understand why she would be bored. She was more window dressing than anything and I always enjoyed watching her. lol From what I read though, the main problem was that everyone was fighting on the show and wasn't fun. Her and Gabe had a falling out. The 4 sweathogs took sides. James Komack was the instigator of the problems. Marcia and Gabe later made up and both have said that Komack was the one responsible for all the striff. She obviously came to accept her WBK past as she attended the TV Land Awards with the cast last year. It's hard reading these things though as fans. We all love these shows and hope that the casts have as much fun making the shows as we have watching them. Unfortunately that isn't always the case.
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I will say it did become harder for her to FAKE THOSE LAUGHS after a while
When Gabe started telling one of his stories, it always seemed like Marcia was rolling her eyes at him. To me, it always looked like she was thinking, 'Not another boring story about Uncle Whatshisface'.
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When Gabe started telling one of his stories, it always seemed like Marcia was rolling her eyes at him. To me, it always looked like she was thinking, 'Not another boring story about Uncle Whatshisface'.

I honestly think those jokes should have been cut out of syndicaton
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I honestly think those jokes should have been cut out of syndicaton
It was funny, though, over time how both Julie and the Sweathogs got bored with those yarns. Take "A Sweathog Christmas" where they all spend Christmas Eve reminiscing about old times (it was a clip show). When Gabe started to tell one of his family jokes, everyone else stood up and said, "Gosh, how are the babies doing?" and left the room. Even "Santa" literally disappeared when Gabe started to talk about Cousin Frieda's nose job.

Here are Gabe and Marcia, in their own words, about what went down:

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Marcia did leave the recurring role of nurse Margie Cutler on M*A*S*H to tale the role of Julie Kotter. So while she was sitting there listening to Gabe's lame "Uncle" jokes she was probably thinking to herself I could be working on the number one show on TV right now but instead I'm sitting here listening to lame jokes!
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Marcia did leave the recurring role of nurse Margie Cutler on M*A*S*H to tale the role of Julie Kotter. So while she was sitting there listening to Gabe's lame "Uncle" jokes she was probably thinking to herself I could be working on the number one show on TV right now but instead I'm sitting here listening to lame jokes!

I guess she didn't understand that the show wasn't called the "The Kotters" and was a show about Mr. Kotter's Work Life and his students. So she really wasn't needed at all
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