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XCalibur · 02-10-2012, 10:14 PM

Gacy has been dead seventeen years now, but its strange how new developments in this case have surfaced just recently, the first being a new victim identified of the eight who were previously unknown. Now they are saying Gacy may not have acted alone in the murders.

I never would have thought this, I wouldn't have thought Gacy would be able to find someone sick enough to go along with the grotesque things he did, but this is a very interesting read and claims they even have definite suspects that may still be alive!

Don't know what to make of this, serial killers generally act alone, especially ones as sick as Gacy was. But there have been exceptions, the Hillside Stranglers, Kenneth McDuff, ect........... didn't know Gacy copied other murderers either.

Here is the article:

http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...es-lawyers-say

Blackout · 02-10-2012, 11:56 PM

was he on uM??

JamesG · 02-11-2012, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Blackout805

was he on uM??

I haven't seen every single episode of UM, but I know he was on the Diabolical Minds episode.

It featured Ted Bundy, Gacy, Saddam Hussein, and the Oba Chandler case.

TracyLynnS · 02-11-2012, 09:27 AM

I think it's weird how some serial killers have accomplices. I don't get what's going on in their minds with that. You'd think killers wouldn't want to have witnesses but maybe the types like Gacy wanted someone with the shared experience so they could talk about the crimes and relive them.

It's sickening, I know, but other than helping to procure victims, that's the only reason I could think of regarding why they'd actually want to have a witness.

Dean Corll used an accomplice to help lure victims.

Randy Kraft (just heard about him today in the "true crimes" section here) may have had an accomplice and they can't locate him.

Leonard Lake and Charles Ng were serial killers who committed their crimes together.

The Speed Freak Killers, Wesley Shermantine and Loren Herzog also killed people together.

I know there must be lots of others. It adds a new kind of creep factor, imo, (as if serial murder could actually get any more terrifying).

Arnold_OldSchool · 02-11-2012, 12:08 PM

One of the kids who got away from Gacy told police there was another person w/ Gacy helping to torture him. His account is in the book Buried Dreams.

Gacy thought the kid was nuts. Gacy apparently only could remember 2 or 3 of the murders as he killed in an altered state.

crochetbuff · 02-11-2012, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Arnold_OldSchool

One of the kids who got away from Gacy told police there was another person w/ Gacy helping to torture him. His account is in the book Buried Dreams.

Gacy thought the kid was nuts. Gacy apparently only could remember 2 or 3 of the murders as he killed in an altered state.

Do you think it's wise that they have put so much info. out there. "The friend" must be keeping up on this case.

A lot of criminals say they don't remember. I don't buy it. Politicians too!

JamesG · 02-11-2012, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by TracyLynnS

I think it's weird how some serial killers have accomplices. I don't get what's going on in their minds with that. You'd think killers wouldn't want to have witnesses but maybe the types like Gacy wanted someone with the shared experience so they could talk about the crimes and relive them.

It's sickening, I know, but other than helping to procure victims, that's the only reason I could think of regarding why they'd actually want to have a witness.

Dean Corll used an accomplice to help lure victims.

Randy Kraft (just heard about him today in the "true crimes" section here) may have had an accomplice and they can't locate him.

Leonard Lake and Charles Ng were serial killers who committed their crimes together.

The Speed Freak Killers, Wesley Shermantine and Loren Herzog also killed people together.

I know there must be lots of others. It adds a new kind of creep factor, imo, (as if serial murder could actually get any more terrifying).

More recently we had The D.C. Snipers - John Allen Muhammad and Lee Boyd Malvo.

1990 UM fan · 02-11-2012, 02:22 PM

Don't forget that David Courtney and his wife went on a multi-state killing spree in the 1970's together. They are suspected of abducting and killing Mary Ann Perez, who was featured on Unsolved Mysteries.

JamesG · 02-11-2012, 03:19 PM

I just remembered another duo, "The Hillside Stranglers" - Kenneth Bianchi and Angelo Buono.

They were cousins.

1990 UM fan · 02-11-2012, 04:52 PM

On another note, have they named who they think was Gacy's accomplice?

XCalibur · 02-11-2012, 05:15 PM

Yes, he was on the Diabolical Minds segment.

I know he was only briefly mentioned but its been somewhat slow on here lately.

XCalibur · 02-11-2012, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 1990 UM fan

On another note, have they named who they think was Gacy's accomplice?

No one has been named yet, but they apparently do have tangible known suspects.

Maybe there is truth to it, maybe not.

I had heard rumors for years that other people had access to Gacy's house, never really took it seriously just thought it was sick rantings from Gacy trying to transfer blame elsewhere. The things he did were so sick with burying sexually molested men in his crawl space that I found it hard to believe anyone would actually go along with it, but maybe there was truth to it. As they say where there is smoke there is usually fire.

Really hard to believe other people might have known before the police did Gacy had bodies buried in his crawlspace but maybe its true.

Orange_Sody_84 · 02-17-2012, 06:56 AM

I dunno about this one... Where is the evidence if there were others involved? You can't just go prancing through a place with that much mayhem and not get noticed in some way. They'd had to have left behind something. Also I find it hard to believe they'd be able to keep it a secret before the bodies were discovered. Afterall "Two can keep a secret if one of them is dead".

XCalibur · 02-18-2012, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Orange_Sody_84

I dunno about this one... Where is the evidence if there were others involved? You can't just go prancing through a place with that much mayhem and not get noticed in some way. They'd had to have left behind something. Also I find it hard to believe they'd be able to keep it a secret before the bodies were discovered. Afterall "Two can keep a secret if one of them is dead".

If Gacy was known to be out of town when some of the victims dissapeared, and an eye witness attacked by Gacy testified there was someone else involved, thats fairly strong evidence in itself. I'm sure there may be more, but in the interest of not spoling the investigation law enforcement does not want to reveal to much.

Like you, I find it hard to believe other people actually went along with the sick things Gacy did. But I don't know why the police would drudge all this up again if they didn't have at least some reason to believe there might be truth to it.

Orange_Sody_84 · 02-19-2012, 08:53 PM

Mmm'kay... fair enough. What I wanna know is what exactly happened to this victim? what did Gacy and the alleged other person do to him? Just curious. it might shed some more light on this angle.

Have you ever read about the Sylvia Likens case? Sylvia was a teenage girl who went to live with an acquatence of her Father in the 60's. The mother began abusing Sylvia and her younger Sister Jenny for months on end. Sylvia eventually died from the abuse. Her sister survived.

The point is not only was her caretaker responsible for the abuse but her children's friends and neighborhood kids joined in on the abuse as well! It became a game to them. So perhaps it isn't so wild that someone else indulged in Gacy's sick endeavors.

02-10-2012, 10:14 PM	#1
XCalibur Member Forum Regular Join Date: May 16, 2010 Location: Belfast, Va Posts: 980	John Wayne Gacy may have had accomplices, article enclosed Gacy has been dead seventeen years now, but its strange how new developments in this case have surfaced just recently, the first being a new victim identified of the eight who were previously unknown. Now they are saying Gacy may not have acted alone in the murders. I never would have thought this, I wouldn't have thought Gacy would be able to find someone sick enough to go along with the grotesque things he did, but this is a very interesting read and claims they even have definite suspects that may still be alive! Don't know what to make of this, serial killers generally act alone, especially ones as sick as Gacy was. But there have been exceptions, the Hillside Stranglers, Kenneth McDuff, ect........... didn't know Gacy copied other murderers either. Here is the article: http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/20...es-lawyers-say

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TracyLynnS Don't Look Up Forum 3000 Club Member Join Date: Jan 07, 2009 Posts: 3,107	I think it's weird how some serial killers have accomplices. I don't get what's going on in their minds with that. You'd think killers wouldn't want to have witnesses but maybe the types like Gacy wanted someone with the shared experience so they could talk about the crimes and relive them. It's sickening, I know, but other than helping to procure victims, that's the only reason I could think of regarding why they'd actually want to have a witness. Dean Corll used an accomplice to help lure victims. Randy Kraft (just heard about him today in the "true crimes" section here) may have had an accomplice and they can't locate him. Leonard Lake and Charles Ng were serial killers who committed their crimes together. The Speed Freak Killers, Wesley Shermantine and Loren Herzog also killed people together. I know there must be lots of others. It adds a new kind of creep factor, imo, (as if serial murder could actually get any more terrifying).
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Arnold_OldSchool Member Forum Regular Join Date: Jul 16, 2006 Posts: 680	One of the kids who got away from Gacy told police there was another person w/ Gacy helping to torture him. His account is in the book Buried Dreams. Gacy thought the kid was nuts. Gacy apparently only could remember 2 or 3 of the murders as he killed in an altered state.

02-11-2012, 03:19 PM	#9
JamesG Freakshow Moderator Forum Icon Join Date: Feb 01, 2008 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 57,045	I just remembered another duo, "The Hillside Stranglers" - Kenneth Bianchi and Angelo Buono. They were cousins.

02-11-2012, 04:52 PM	#10
1990 UM fan Unsolved Mysteries fanatic Senior Member Join Date: Jul 14, 2011 Location: United States Posts: 2,510	On another note, have they named who they think was Gacy's accomplice?

02-11-2012, 05:15 PM	#11
XCalibur Member Forum Regular Join Date: May 16, 2010 Location: Belfast, Va Posts: 980	Yes, he was on the Diabolical Minds segment. I know he was only briefly mentioned but its been somewhat slow on here lately.

02-17-2012, 06:56 AM	#13
Orange_Sody_84 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Aug 05, 2010 Location: Myrtle Beach Posts: 234	I dunno about this one... Where is the evidence if there were others involved? You can't just go prancing through a place with that much mayhem and not get noticed in some way. They'd had to have left behind something. Also I find it hard to believe they'd be able to keep it a secret before the bodies were discovered. Afterall "Two can keep a secret if one of them is dead".

02-19-2012, 08:53 PM	#15
Orange_Sody_84 Member Frequent Poster Join Date: Aug 05, 2010 Location: Myrtle Beach Posts: 234	Mmm'kay... fair enough. What I wanna know is what exactly happened to this victim? what did Gacy and the alleged other person do to him? Just curious. it might shed some more light on this angle. Have you ever read about the Sylvia Likens case? Sylvia was a teenage girl who went to live with an acquatence of her Father in the 60's. The mother began abusing Sylvia and her younger Sister Jenny for months on end. Sylvia eventually died from the abuse. Her sister survived. The point is not only was her caretaker responsible for the abuse but her children's friends and neighborhood kids joined in on the abuse as well! It became a game to them. So perhaps it isn't so wild that someone else indulged in Gacy's sick endeavors.